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Friday, May 15th 2009, 7:42pm

Beijing Newspaper Q2/1937 - Chinese news and events - April / May / June

April:

Air-Force news:
The tests for the heavy bomber Guizhou GA-5 come to a positive conclusion. After the aircraft have been extremly tested, the series
release was granted. The Ministry of Defense has ordered many aircrafts of this type, an exact number was not mentioned.

The economic relations between the United States and China experienced a new upswing. The Guoyong Aircraft Inc. received the license
to build the "B-25 Mitchell" medium bomber.

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Friday, May 15th 2009, 7:49pm

Army-news:
Near Chamdo heavy fighting between rebels and government troops take place.


Street fights in Chamdo between Chinese and troops of the warlord

Chinese troops move, with Tibetan permission, forward. Due to the recent incidents in the past, both governments have
decided to declare the "Martial law" over the province "Amdo". This decision was positively supported by the population
of both countries .
It should, however, definitely just be a temporary act. After seizure of the warlord and restore law and order, the Chinese troops will pull back.


Chinese light tanks leaving Lanzhou to support chinese troops in the province "Amdo"


Chinese mountaindivision in the province "Amdo"

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Monday, May 18th 2009, 10:21am

Air-Force news:
Harbin Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation presents a new Aircraft, the Ha-37. It's a Recon-Aircraft which is only in use of the Chinese Naval Air-Force as Patrol- & Anti-Submarine Aircraft.

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Friday, May 22nd 2009, 8:09am

Naval-news:
The second ship of the Xiangtan-class is keel laid in Shanghai. The cooperation between China and Persia gets closer, in Taipei the Jaipur will be
converted in an escort carrier. The two submarines U-14 and U-15 begin their trials, as also the two light cruisers HICMS Hong Ming and HICMS Guilin do
in the China Sea.

The headquarters of the Chinese Navy has decided to send the I. submarine fleet (U-2 / U-4 / U-5 / U-6 / U-7) and the HICMS Tsing Tao (as supply ship)
in the Indian Ocean. The submarine base of the Bharat Navy at the Maldives will be their homeport for the next future

The CNDO presented their newest designs. Reportedly, the following projects have been presented to the emperor:

- Heavy Cruiser (~ 14.000 tons)

- Oceangoing Submarine (~ 1000 tons)

- Seaplane Cruiser (a rebuilt of a existing heavy / light cruister)

- Scout Cruiser (~ 8000 tons)


Detailed technical Info's about the ships weren't published !


Furthermore, it was decided that the two light cruisers HICMS Akashi and HICMS Suma will be scrapped ! The two vessels will be scrapped after Q2 in
Dairen and Zhanjiang.

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Saturday, May 23rd 2009, 6:02am

The I. Submarine Fleet won't be stopping long will it? We know (OOC at least) that soon India will be inviting Satsuma forces to leave. That should ease the Admiralty's mind somewhat.


The Government of Britain hopes the Government of Tibet has not been leaned on in any way to accept Chinese military actions and that once the warlord is captured that Chinese troops respect the agreement.

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Monday, June 1st 2009, 11:21am

Quoted

August 30th 1937- Small note delivered to the Embassies of the Satsuma nations by Bharat's Foreign Ministry:

"This note denotes our intention of leaving the South Asian Trade, Scientific Undertaking and Military Accord on an effective date of 1st February 1939. We will abide by the requirements of that Accord to the date indicated above. We also request that all Satsuma military facilities in our soil be dismantled and returned to our control by 1st July 1938. (1) Foreign troops in our soil must abandon Bharat’s borders by 1st July 1938. (2)

(1) IIRC I gave a lease to the Chinese and the Japanese for submarine bases on the Maldives.
(2) The Chinese have an Indian Ocean Squadron in Trincomalee.


So i think it could be a take a longer time to see these ships in chinese waters again.


The Government of Britain can be assured, that chinese troops will leave Tibet as soon as the warlord is captured.

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Tuesday, June 2nd 2009, 4:50pm

more Naval-news:
The headquarters of the Chinese Navy announced that the chinese navy has purchased two passengerships of the Shanghai-America Line, and converted them to hospital ships.

The two ships are the LIEN CHING and the YUNG HSIANG. Both vessels are, in line with the Geneva Convention, entirely painted in white with large red crosses. Also both
vessels are unarmed.

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Friday, June 5th 2009, 2:26pm

One late evening in may in the office of the south fleet of the Chinese Navy ...

CiC South Fleet - Fleetadmiral Tan Won
Chief of the south naval Reconnaissance Departement: - RearAdmiral Chin Shui-Tin
CiC of the I. South Chinese Sea Patrol - Vice Admiral Yang Guangyuan



"Admiral, please inform me, which ships have Great Britain at present here in south east asia ?"

"Here is the list. But we have to make a difference between the whole ships which are stationed here
and the ships which are at present in the harbor. At first i will give you an overview over the whole list."

Great Britain has stationed in Hong-Kong:

15th Light Cruiser Squadron (Drake, Cochrane, Pellew, Howard)
4th Destroyer Flotilla (Shakespeare, Archer, Acasta, Achates, Acheron, Arrow, Ardent, Active, Antelope)
17th Destroyer Flotilla (Speedy, Tobago, Torbay, Toreador, Tourmaline, Tryphon, Turquoise, Tuscan, Tyrian)
6th Sloop Flotilla (E61-70)
3rd Gunboat Squadron (6 Fly Class)

At present there only following ships anchored in Hong-Kong, the others are on patrol around Hong-Kong:
CL: HMS Drake, HMS Howard
DD: HMS Archer, HMS Achates, HMS Acasta, HMS Ardent, HMS Torbay, HMS Tryphon, HMS Tyrian
SL: E67, E69, E70
GB: None

That's all about the Ships of Great Britain."


"Thank you for your comments. But there are still our iberian friends, who have yet
certainly stationed ships in Macao and Hainan Dao. Your reconnaissance is certainly in a
position to give me a report, right?"


"Of course, we watch the iberean Ships also very carefully ...
These iberean ships are momentarelly stationed here in south east asia:

CV Cordoba
CA Agrippa
CA De Caranza
CDS/CE Cordonazo
CDS/CE Levanto
CL Liberia
CL Honduras
CL San Hainando
CL Puerto Rico
D 103
D 104
D 105
D 106
D 117
D 118
Sa 21 - Sa 24
Sc 13 - Sc 16

Of course this is also true, that not all vessels at all times are in the port, some are on patrol.

At present, following ships anchored in Macao:
CL Honduras
D 103
D 104
Sc 14
Sc 16

and these in Hainan Dao:
CA Agrippa
CL San Hainando
CDS/CE Levanto
D117
D118
Sa 21
Sa 22
Sa 23
Sa 24

and soon the list will include one of their La Luna class battleship as station flagship."



"Thank you for that overview. It is shocking what firepower is here on our doorstep. I wonder whether we are such a threat
for these nations. Perhaps we can convice these countries from our peaceful intentions and convince them to reduce their
forces, if they find that they have nothing to fear from us. We must get in contact with the corresponding nations. I will
discuss this in my next meeting with his Imperial Highness."


after a small break, after he drink some tea ...


"What about the pirate-menace in the South China Sea ? It's another open issue."



"I am pleased to announce that our efforts bear fruitfully. In the last 3 month was not a single ship attacked by pirates.
Well, the cleaning action on the Paracels has thrown a lot of dust and many nations thought we would illegally invade the
islands. But at present i can say, there is no pirate activity in the south chinese sea !"



"Hope you are right ! But with our action, our relations with some nations get worse ! Now, we must be careful that these nations
didn't think we are a horde of savages, which only wants war. But I am only a soldier and no politician, so it isn't my problem to
convice the others ..."

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Friday, June 5th 2009, 6:58pm

some more Army-news

Due to the "Hammer Exercise 1936", the common SATSUMA-maneuver, a request for a support artillery was placed at different arsenals in China.
Now TUNG-MENG Industries presents it's newest vehicle.

Tung Meng SP105
self propelled Artillery

Weight: 12,4 t
Crew: 4 men
Length: 5,05 m
Width: 2,14 m
Hight: 2,29 m
Speed: 43 km/h
Range: 250 km
Motor: Hong Po EPA-II
Power: 162 PS

Armament:
Maingun: 105mm Howitzer M/37


Armour:
Car Tower
Front: 25 mm
Back: 15 mm
Side: 15 mm

standard camo

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Saturday, June 6th 2009, 12:56am

Looks cramped. I'm not really sure you the 4 man crew for artillery support. Driver, Commander, Loader should suffice. Open top would probably be more practical.

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Saturday, June 6th 2009, 1:09am

If it was 25-30 tons I could probably buy the specs, but it's a bit over half the weight of the slower, more lightly-armoured, open-topped M7 Priest.

What caliber is the gun?

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Saturday, June 6th 2009, 1:17am

The gun is 105L21

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Saturday, June 6th 2009, 1:19am

I suppose that works. Probably more of a mortar than a howitzer, but eh, close enough.

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Saturday, June 6th 2009, 1:21am

Mortar? What has the caliber to do whether its a Howitzer or Mortar?

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Saturday, June 6th 2009, 1:26am

Um, a lot. If the barrel's short, it'll be a lot better in indirect "lobbing" fire, like a mortar, than in the intermediate range, like a howitzer. Caliber is the difference between a field gun (high-caliber weapons with long range and flat trajectories), mortars (low-caliber weapons with short range and lobbing trajectories), and howitzers (in between field guns and mortars).

That latest Skoda gun the Persians ordered is a field gun by virtue of it's high caliber - meaning it has longer range and higher muzzle velocity, and will be rather stinky in the mountains but better on the plains.

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Saturday, June 6th 2009, 1:30am

No, its a pretty distinct difference between guns and mortars until the introduction of the so called Gun-Mortars.

And the 155mm M/17 isn´t delivered yet, when delivered it will complete the trio of standard Fieldguns (77, 130 and 155mm)

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Vukovlad" (Jun 6th 2009, 1:33am)


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Saturday, June 6th 2009, 1:49am

I agree on the open top suggestion.

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Saturday, June 6th 2009, 2:01am

Quoted

Originally posted by Vukovlad
No, its a pretty distinct difference between guns and mortars until the introduction of the so called Gun-Mortars.

Yeah, mortars usually had a base to permit higher angles of fire, thinner barrel walls (due to the lower amounts of propellant) and so on and so forth. The fact remains that caliber is the major delineation point between guns of the same muzzle width, and the caliber dictates the gun's role.

Although now that I'm on the subject, I'd like to point out that the pepperpot muzzlebrake on the gun is extremely dumb - with a gun that short, a muzzlebrake is about the LAST thing you want to do with that shell! :P

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Saturday, June 6th 2009, 2:31am

Well shortbarrelled guns are usually Howitzers but that doesnt make them Mortars, where is the the accepted line that divides mortars from Howitzers? It has to be below 13 calibers.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Vukovlad" (Jun 6th 2009, 2:31am)


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Saturday, June 6th 2009, 2:34am

Not necessarily. A mortar is designed to fire at a high angle and therefore has a shorter caliber (as less muzzle velocity is needed); a howitzer is designed to fire a flatter trajectory and does not need to have such a high angle. I suppose you could make a very short-barreled howitzer or a longer-barreled mortar, but there'd be no purpose to it.