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Sunday, August 26th 2007, 11:33am

An improtant question

Say someone is on the wrong end of a pearl harbour style attack and several ships are sunk in harbour. How much materials should be spent to refloat the ships or would that just be considered storyline while the real cost is paid at the drydock?

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Sunday, August 26th 2007, 8:26pm

Since our rules don't mention anything about it, I'd assume it's free, with the costs being paid to actually return them to service.

In reality, it'd cost to get the moved, whether they're returned to service or not. And attempting to right and raise a ship like Oklahoma would cost far more than refloating Nevada or West Virginia.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "ShinRa_Inc" (Aug 26th 2007, 8:30pm)


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Sunday, August 26th 2007, 8:49pm

Quoted

Say someone is on the wrong end of a pearl harbour style attack and several ships are sunk in harbour.


*Ominous hum*

I think you'd have to shell out a small amount for temporary patching of holes, cofferdams, and so forth - and then replace that stuff with the actual repairs once refloated and in drydock.

The fact that refloating and repairing ships at Pearl Harbour was easier than building new ships suggests a fundamental flaw in our own assumptions that 100% damage = 100% build time/cost...

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Sunday, August 26th 2007, 9:41pm

I'd say 100% damage would mean total immolation, perhaps something like Arizona's or Hood's detonation, including widespread distortion and seperation of the ship's basic structure. A ship will sink once enough holes have been poked in it, regardless of damage to the rest of the ship.

In Pearl Harbour's case, you had a lot of ships that 'sank', and in any deeper water would've been total losses, but would not be considered 100% damaged.

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Sunday, August 26th 2007, 10:20pm

Some systems use both above and below water hull. If everything above water is destroyed the ship is practically useless (guns and superstructure are holed, burned, or otherwise missing from the vessel) where as if all below water is gone, she will sink.

In shallow waters a ship with all the below water hull will settle on the bottom, but if the above water hull is still useable, the effort could be made to rebuild or reconstruct a vessel (50%....all the bottom, 75%.....all the bottom plus work to the upper works).

Some rules have it that ships get lower into the water as they loose floatation, so the vessel might not be completely "sunk" just that she couldn't float wtih high eoungh without touching the bottom of the harbor. (she ran aground sitting still).