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I seem to have missed this one...
1 question, how does this fit with the real world? The USN, IJN and RN refitted old DD to escorts (both long and short range) by pulling a boiler and adding bunkerage. Is this a 50% cost or would 25% be more like it? The USN also went for conversions to seplane tenders etc.
Only asking cause it seems likely that people would want to do this. Even more likely as it did happen to a great number of ships.
Cheers,
Better late than never!
I had written this to be consistent with the existing rules, which suggested that such an escort would require a 50% job.
How this compares with real-life is a good question; all input on costs is still appreciated...
Not wanting to complicate things but what about for ships under 3000tons, we combine Level 1 and 2 (5%), Level 3 is 15%, Level 4 is 25% and Level 5 is 50%. We could add 'joining two ships together' to level 5 to reflect what happened to the WW1 Tribal DD's Nubian and Zulu to form HMS Zubian. Obviously you need a drydock for this one. ; )
Thoughts?
Cheers,
Sounds good, I do think it would be too expensive at 75% to join two halfs of separate DD's so this makes it more plausable.
I assume we are still using the original rules for now until we decide on these once and for all. I generally like them with the lower percentages Alt_Naval proposed.
I can deal with Roger's suggestions. Let's see if the other players give a consensus, and we can consider implementing this for Q1/1930.
J
I'm fine with it apart from;
-Reshaping of stern: D
It is basically impossible to graft a transom stern onto a ship that previously had a cruiser stern. Purely cosmetic changes are easy enough, but actually changing the hull form is something else entirely.
Changing to a transom would be too much, but lengthening the stern to improve hydrodynamics was quite common, especially with the Japanese and Italian BB refits.
Abstain
Indifferent at this time.
Anyone want to incorporate this into the infrastructure rules?
Im Ok with the proposal.
But transom is bit to much
We need to sticky this or add it to the infrastructure rules since its getting near the end of the first page here.
I'm assuming that adding mine rails to a ship that was not built with them installed would be equivalent to changes to a ship's depth charge racks and throwers (ie, a minor refit (15%)). Does that seem right to everyone?