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HoOmAn

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Thursday, June 20th 2013, 12:52am

Help - Small landing crafts

Hi!

Has anybody here every tried to design a Higgins Boat (LCVP ) in SpringSharp? Or a LCPL ? Or LCA ?

I tried and failed....

Can you please help me?

Thanks,
HoOmAn

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Thursday, June 20th 2013, 1:14am

I've tried on occasion. They never work for me, either.

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Thursday, June 20th 2013, 3:16am

Smallest thing I've been able to sim adequately (in SS3, mind) is a 35 t landing craft.

9 tonnes is beyond my ken.

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Thursday, June 20th 2013, 4:33am

Closest I'v gotten so far:

LCA-15 Class, Greek Landing Craft Assult laid down 1942

Displacement:
14 t light; 15 t standard; 15 t normal; 15 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
36.49 ft / 36.25 ft x 10.83 ft x 2.58 ft (normal load)
11.12 m / 11.05 m x 3.30 m x 0.79 m

Armament:
2 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1942 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 0 lbs / 0 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 1,500

Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion motors,
Direct drive, 1 shaft, 132 shp / 99 Kw = 12.00 kts
Range 100nm at 8.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 0 tons

Complement:
3 - 4

Cost:
£0.006 million / $0.025 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 0 tons, 0.1 %
Machinery: 3 tons, 23.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 7 tons, 46.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 tons, 3.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 4 tons, 26.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
25 lbs / 11 Kg = 401.5 x 0.5 " / 13 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 0.2 ft / 0.1 m
Roll period: 9.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 16 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.01
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 0.18

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.518
Length to Beam Ratio: 3.35 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 6.02 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 83 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 29
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 2.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 7.00 ft / 2.13 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 6.00 ft / 1.83 m
- Mid (50 %): 5.00 ft / 1.52 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 5.00 ft / 1.52 m
- Stern: 5.00 ft / 1.52 m
- Average freeboard: 5.43 ft / 1.66 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 105.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 85.2 %
Waterplane Area: 256 Square feet or 24 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 136 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 13 lbs/sq ft or 63 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.77
- Longitudinal: 34.68
- Overall: 1.13
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
Ship has quick, lively roll, not a steady gun platform
Caution: Lacks seaworthiness - very limited seakeeping ability

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Thursday, June 20th 2013, 7:10am

Hrolf it seems built some in 1938 for the USN though I think he just used the historical ships rather than simming them in Springsharp, kind of like most do with MTB's.

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Thursday, June 20th 2013, 7:15am

Quoted

Originally posted by TheCanadian
Hrolf it seems built some in 1938 for the USN though I think he just used the historical ships rather than simming them in Springsharp, kind of like most do with MTB's.

I've done the same for most of my landing craft. I think the smallest ones I've ever simmed out are LCTs and LCIs.

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Thursday, June 20th 2013, 11:51am

I just use OTL specs.

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Thursday, June 20th 2013, 10:31pm

Okay, I think I just do the same. Spend 10ts in my reports per hull and just define something along the lines of those small crafts I mentioned above...

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Saturday, June 22nd 2013, 10:20pm

Well, this is it...



LCP1-18, laid down 1945
LCP19-36, laid down 1946

Displacement: 10 ts standard
Dimensions: 11,45 m / 11,10 m x 3,50 m x 1,05 m
Armament: 2 - 7,62 mm gun
Machinery: Diesel Internal combustion motors, 280hp
Speed: 10 kn
Range: 150 nm
Complement: 4
Load weight: 4 ts or 36 troops


[The LCP Series 45 actually is a variant of OTL American LCVP crafts (Higgins Boat) which were historically build through the 40s. I use this design because SS can´t deal with light crafts.]