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Thursday, March 24th 2005, 2:13am

Petrograd Post, 4 December 1926

In series of raids last night, Russian Federation secret services disrupted a series of terrorist operations by Anarchist groups, involving five planned assasinations of Russian Federation government officials, and three large bombing plots. A total of 48 persons of Russian, Hungarian, Italian, Spanish, French, British, and American citizenship are in custody. Investigation has shown that no foreign government involvement in any of these conspiracies is indicated. Indeed, one of the potential bomb targets was British embassy in Mocow. Russian Federation President Chernov, an intended target for assassination, asked State Duma to produce legislation increasing powers of Russian Federation secret services to monitor, expose, and counteract large-scale, non-State sanctioned, international terrorist activity. "I commend our secret services on their neutralization of these threats. However, it is apparent that they are not organized, resourced, or supported to maximize their effectiveness against multi-national, non-State-supported terrorist operations. To face this threat of unprecedented insidiousness, defenders of our Fatherland must be equipped with commesurate powers and resources. These must include:

1) Increase budgetary allocation for intelligence services by 15%, each year, for next five years.

2) Reorganize Russian Federation intelligence services, to expand their training capability and to orient them on new types of threats.

3) Authority to monitor, infiltrate, and counteract, from within terrorist organizations, both inside Russian Federation borders and outside them.

4) Authority to take into custody for up to six months persons of interest to investigation of terrorist operations.

5) Activate and organize participation by patriotic Russian Federation citizens in activities to heighten awareness of terroristic threats, improve communication of information from patriotic Russian Federation citizens to intelligence services, and resources for investigation to confirm or reject report of possible threats and plots.

6) Provide proceedures for legal action against those who spread unfounded accusations against Russian Federation or other governments, intending to harm diplomatic, political, or economic relations between Russian Federation and other countries.

This Fatherland Defender Act will be foundation of effort to protect peoples of Russian Federation, their property, their international relations, and their peace of mind."

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Thursday, March 24th 2005, 2:35am

Interesting stuff. Kinda surprised that there were no Germans involved. Maybe they were too clever.

Not to be picky, but do Russians refer to their country as "the Fatherland"? I thought it was always referred to in the feminine - Mother Russia, etc.

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Thursday, March 24th 2005, 3:20am

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The Government of the Philippines is apalled that such a conspiracy was allowed to be conceived, and gives thanks to God that no harm came of it.

Nevertheless, we are concerned that the proposed measures to prevent further occurances of this sort may be vunerable to abuse...

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IIRC, Russia should be referred to as 'the Motherland'.

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Thursday, March 24th 2005, 4:26am

They use both

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Kinda surprised that there were no Germans involved. Maybe they were too clever.


Or just not attracted to Anarchism in any great number. As I recall, the SDP and KPD were the influential Leftist German political parties, and Anarchism didn't have the hold there that it did for instance in the Balkans or in Spain.

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Not to be picky, but do Russians refer to their country as "the Fatherland"? I thought it was always referred to in the feminine - Mother Russia, etc.


"Rodina" = Motherland, and is very commonly used.

"Otchestvo" = Fatherland, as in "Velikoi Otchestvennoi Voini" - Great Fatherland (usually translated at 'Patriotic') War, also known as WWII.

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Thursday, March 24th 2005, 5:17am

The United States would certainly be interested in questioning the American citizens detained by Russian authorities, especially in relationship to the attacks of October 29th. This may be evidence of an international communist/anarchist conspiracy to spread terror across the world.

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Thursday, March 24th 2005, 7:49am

Atlantis would like to comend the Russian Federations Secret service in its swift actions to prevent anarchists from achieving their twisted goals.

When asked if the Atlantian Special Intelegence Service was involved in the Russian opperations the only responce was "we cannot comment on what actions were or were not taken because they could possibly jeopardize agents in the feild, but we do have our ears to the ground".

The Atlantian govt. has also preposed its own "anti-anarchism initiative" in light of events in the U.S. and Russia.

"The acts carried out in the U.S. are absolutely reprehensible and we cannot allow similar acts to occur in our own great nation. The Russians have clearly shown they are willing to deal with these vile creatures who call themselves anarchists. We therefore would like to work with the Americans, Russians, French and any other great and noble nation to establish new international laws that would allow nations to deal with these worst of criminals and punish them in the harshest terms possible."

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Thursday, March 24th 2005, 8:30am

Japanese question: "Why not kill them right away instead of arrresting them?"

Kill first, ask questions later.

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Thursday, March 24th 2005, 8:43am

Asking questions first reveils more of the pond scum, to kill after all is said and done. Killing them outright allows the sneaky/lucky ones to fight another day.

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Thursday, March 24th 2005, 9:17am

Besides, we here in the US have a the fun resort island of Alcatraz, plus the joy of "old sparky". Much more fun watching them twitch than just lopping their noggin of like the Japanese or French do. The Indian and Dutch methods are quite interesting, though there is that "cruel and unusual" thing to worry about here with that pesky Constitution.

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Thursday, March 24th 2005, 9:50am

In South Africa one wonders what would have been the goal of those anarchists? What to achieve with those assassinations and bomb attacks? What to gain? If it wasn´t simply a monday morning rant there has to be a sheme behind all those actions - and somebody necessarily had to controll all activities. Otherwise such operations wouldn´t have been possible. So who´s the puppet master behind the scene?

OOP: I think the "This Fatherland Defender Act" sounds too much like what we have in America in our realworld (triggered by 9-11). In the mid-20s and in a nation like Russia where millions live like in the 17th century, where agroculture dominates large parts of the country and where modern (by 20s standard) technology hasn´t been seen in all places I wonder how a secret service will "monitor, infiltrate, and counteract" all activities...?!

Just curious...

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Thursday, March 24th 2005, 10:02am

Well I think the lack of a Bolshivism has alot to do with the lack of 17th century living, that and the Russians do know how to talk tough and put on a brave front even if they haven't got a clue. It could all just be bluster, but it sounds mean and nasty to threaten your enemy's.


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Thursday, March 24th 2005, 12:42pm

(Hit the reply button once again instead of the quote button)

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Besides, we here in the US have a the fun resort island of Alcatraz, plus the joy of "old sparky".

"Hey who turned out the lights."
"You have just won a life-long holiday to Alcatraz."

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Much more fun watching them twitch than just lopping their noggin of like the Japanese or French do.

Swift and with Style. Still it is nice practice to try and cut someone in two while he is dangling from the end of a rope.

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The Indian and Dutch methods are quite interesting, though there is that "cruel and unusual" thing to worry about here with that pesky Constitution.

Why not let Al deal with that? A pair of concrete shoes is always useful, or making someone part of a building.
Slow, but with a lot of Style! :-)

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Thursday, March 24th 2005, 2:05pm

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OOP: I think the "This Fatherland Defender Act" sounds too much like what we have in America in our realworld (triggered by 9-11). In the mid-20s and in a nation like Russia where millions live like in the 17th century, where agroculture dominates large parts of the country and where modern (by 20s standard) technology hasn´t been seen in all places I wonder how a secret service will "monitor, infiltrate, and counteract" all activities...?!


It seems to have "worked" historically for Stalin.

It's interesting watching democracy at risk from both anarchists and government. I look forward to seeing how this develops both in Russia and America.

Admiral K: Thanks for the clarification. And you're right, there wasn't a huge anarchist following in Germany - probably even less so here - but on the other hand, the German marxists have been a vocal group.

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Thursday, March 24th 2005, 8:41pm

Perhaps Anarchy?

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In South Africa one wonders what would have been the goal of those anarchists? What to achieve with those assassinations and bomb attacks? What to gain?


Anarchy? The removal of all government over the lives of the people. An unrealistic movement, but very popular in the late 1800s and early 1900s from what I understand. Guess they are continuing into the late 1920s.

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Thursday, March 24th 2005, 9:36pm

They're probably frustrated that they haven't made any gains around the world, no Soviet Union, etc...

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Friday, March 25th 2005, 4:36am

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In South Africa one wonders what would have been the goal of those anarchists?


Well, that historically has been a problem with Anarchists. There usually isn't a clear understanding how the bombing/assasination/etc is going to accomplish any useful political goal. A generally poor understanding of politics is a big reason for the historical limited sucess of Anarchism.

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Well I think the lack of a Bolshivism has alot to do with the lack of 17th century living

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The WesWorld Russian government is following a policy very similar to Lenin's NEP, without going through the Civil War, and with access to French capital. Its been interesting to learn in from my study of this for the WesWorld (Fantastique has been very informative) that early Soviet economic policy drew heavily on the industrialist Ryabushinsky's wartime work on ecnomic planning to support the war effort during World War One.

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that and the Russians do know how to talk tough and put on a brave front even if they haven't got a clue. It could all just be bluster, but it sounds mean and nasty to threaten your enemy's.


Yes, there's an element of this too. But the Russian Federation inherited pretty good intelligence services when they took over from Nicholas II.

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They're probably frustrated that they haven't made any gains around the world, no Soviet Union, etc...


Well, let's see. The French Socialists are a major power in the government, Russia is run by the Socialist revolutionaries (Alexander Kerensky's party), with non-trivial representation for the Mensheviks and the Bolsheviks, and they're using an economic policy very similar to Lenin's historical New Economic Policy (NEP). In Germany, the Social Democrats are a significant power as well.

I'd say that the Socialist Internationale is not at all frustrated with political developments since the end of the Great War.