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5.2" deck armor???? On a cruiser, armed with 6" guns?????

May have to fight off Turkish battlecruisers while carriers make escape. Greece has no modern medium 8"-10" gun but does have a tried and true 6".



[size=3]RHN C-32 Konstantinoupolis Class, Greek Large Cruiser laid down 1931[/size]

Displacement:
15,573 t light; 16,125 t standard; 17,994 t normal; 19,489 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
664.00 ft / 664.00 ft x 76.00 ft x 26.00 ft (normal load)
202.39 m / 202.39 m x 23.16 m x 7.92 m

Armament:
12 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (6x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1932 Model
Quick firing guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
12 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns (6x2 guns), 62.50lbs / 28.35kg shells, 1932 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
4 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns (2x2 guns), 62.50lbs / 28.35kg shells, 1932 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts
16 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1932 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
16 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1932 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 2,331 lbs / 1,057 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 135
8 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 8.00" / 203 mm 462.00 ft / 140.82 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 107 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 6.00" / 152 mm 4.00" / 102 mm 6.00" / 152 mm
2nd: 2.00" / 51 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 2.00" / 51 mm
3rd: 2.00" / 51 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 2.00" / 51 mm

- Armour deck: 5.20" / 132 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 94,721 shp / 70,662 Kw = 31.50 kts
Range 11,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,365 tons

Complement:
776 - 1,009

Cost:
£5.369 million / $21.477 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 291 tons, 1.6 %
Armour: 5,579 tons, 31.0 %
- Belts: 1,537 tons, 8.5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 740 tons, 4.1 %
- Armour Deck: 3,302 tons, 18.4 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 2,796 tons, 15.5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 6,307 tons, 35.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,421 tons, 13.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 600 tons, 3.3 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
31,533 lbs / 14,303 Kg = 292.0 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 3.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
Metacentric height 4.1 ft / 1.2 m
Roll period: 15.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.33
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.22

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low forecastle, rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.480
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.74 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 29.80 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 57
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26.00 ft / 7.92 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 19.00 ft / 5.79 m (26.00 ft / 7.92 m aft of break)
- Mid (77 %): 22.00 ft / 6.71 m (15.00 ft / 4.57 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Stern: 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Average freeboard: 21.49 ft / 6.55 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 67.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 171.8 %
Waterplane Area: 34,327 Square feet or 3,189 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 128 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 121 lbs/sq ft or 592 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.96
- Longitudinal: 1.40
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

An unusual design, for sure.

While I think she might cause a headache for CT-cruisers I doubt she´ll be a real competitor for any BC....?!

Not in daylight...

Shes definitely interesting. I wonder if I can take out 4 turrets with a single hit?

Effective range of the 6" gun is about 10-15000yds, the 8" enjoys an advantage of about 5000yds

At night with searchlight range about 6000yds max I'm sure shes cause problems, but any battle is going to be very confused given the terrain.

It's different for sure, kind of like my Belgrano but with twins.

I see the reason for the very heavy armour, like my 190mm CA it will help withstand those heavier calibre hits until the 6" are in range. Great for night fighting too.

I think it needs more torpedoes for night fighting successfully, a good spread of eight on a broadside would increase hitting chances.

The forward centreline 5" seems a waste of space, it has limited arcs hedged in behind the 6" turret and the bridge abouve and behind. Maybe put another 2-3 40mm twins there instead.

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Greece has no modern medium 8"-10" gun

Skoda does...

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Zitat:Greece has no modern medium 8"-10" gun



Skoda does...

As does Krupp....

Battlecruiser armor and light cruiser guns. Reminds me of S&G.

I dont think she's a good idea. Very heavy deck armor but once in range to use her guns she is becomes vulnerable to belt penetration.

The heavy armour grew out of the original designs for a BC but I wanted to standardise on 14" but the ship would need to be 20,000tons. It is only because of the treaty that I have this ship. Given the choice I'd have 2 8000 ton ships instead.

Cheers,

6 inch quick fires (if true rapid fire) will be murder at close range and at night verse a 8 inch or 10 inch guns cruiser. Against a Battlecruiser, I don't know. It would mess with its upper works and such, but shouldn't be able to penetrate everything it would need to. Depending on the Battlecruiser that is.