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...Wesworld doesn't do the doubled-cost thing? Huh. You learn something new every day. I thought I'd just missed it when I looked up subs.Navalism's x2 submarine cost perhaps?
If it is used "as a platform for the development of a very early sub-launched cruise missile", why isn't there any miscellaneous weights assigned to any such weapon? Right now its only weapons are the torpedoes and deck guns. Also wouldn't the deck guns interfere with the available space for any Loon-like launch system and watertight storage container?
What about the "100 tons portside secondary pressure hull" and "100 tons starboard secondary pressure hull"? Personally, I feel that using belt armor or torpedo bulkhead to calculate the weight of any kind of additions to the pressure hull to be more proper.
I do not think that they will be build with the missiles as part of the weaponry from the start. The "they'll be easily refitted to hold anything the developers come up with" would suggest that the missiles will be added after the completion of the submarine with a refit.
Japan has the MXY7 that could probably be used with some minor modifications... but a cruise missile it is not.
As Rooijen guessed, I'd anticipate somewhere between 36 and 48 months for a useful operational version. 12-18 months would be the point at which there'd be enough design and planning and calculation work done to start putting together handbuilt prototypes and playing with them to see what goes Kerbally wrong, and iterating that data into the next phases of development, so having the project start around the same time the boat's keel is laid should have the latter shaken down and ready for use around the time it's needed.Hmm. I have to wonder about the time frame for development of your missile - which of course we haven't see much of. A span of 15 months is rather short for designing and developing any sort of cruise missile - IMHO - given the complexity of the weapons system. Powerplant, launch mechanisms, guidance systems - there are quite a lot of variables. I do not believe that any other WW nation has developed cruise missiles yet - Germany has deliberately eschewed the FZG-76 so that cannot be the takeoff point for any Nordish developments. I just think you will need more time.
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Speaking as another nation developing missiles, Atlantis hasn't gotten to weaponizing its missiles yet and that's after years of testing alongside Argentinian developers as well. I've chosen to take a long methodical development process so as to avoid any power gaming or unusually/unrealistically quick development of a "super weapon". Given the lack of any war I haven't seen the need to rapidly develop such weapons let alone mate them with a submarine design capable of mounting them.
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I don't think any cruise missiles exist in WW.
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Mexico did some work on pulsejets but that seems to have stalled/ been abandoned.
Not yet but how far removed are we from it? Looking at the Valka website at the various project models of the MXY7, they have a much greater range so that one could easily be developed into a cruise missile, though I would probably have to do something about the guidance system of the weapon for the longer ranges.
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By looking at the news, I feel that it is mainly an Argentinian effort and that Atlantis is just a fifth wheel.
Sadly your opinion doesn't really taken into account the heavy design influence, coin and lead scientists contributions to the project that could easily be rooted in Venezuela or Colombia but instead are rooted in Argentina with a close partner in the region as a colaberative and cost saving measure,
at this point it could be that easy and may yet be approved by the military, but for now Atlantis and Argentina have desided to further develop the technology by seting the goal of reaching space. I assume I don't need to suggest the side benefits of such a goal being achieved.Quoted
Just put a small canister containing chlorine gas in the nosecone of the rocket and you got yourself a chemical weapon even if it is ineffective. It does not have to be a 1000 kg explosive warhead to weaponize a missile.
Its more complicated than that but I don't think its appropriate for us to discuss that here, or to discuss it at all really because the same situation is not being played out here.Quoted
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Mexico did some work on pulsejets but that seems to have stalled/ been abandoned.
IIRC abandoned because the mods did not like it.
Your post is too hard to read, Wes.Your post is too hard to read, Wes.Your post is too hard to read, Wes.Your post is too hard to read, Wes.Quoted
By looking at the news, I feel that it is mainly an Argentinian effort and that Atlantis is just a fifth wheel.
Sadly your opinion doesn't really taken into account the heavy design influence, coin and lead scientists contributions to the project that could easily be rooted in Venezuela or Colombia but instead are rooted in Argentina with a close partner in the region as a colaberative and cost saving measure,
Your post is too hard to read, Wes.at this point it could be that easy and may yet be approved by the military, but for now Atlantis and Argentina have desided to further develop the technology by seting the goal of reaching space. I assume I don't need to suggest the side benefits of such a goal being achieved.Quoted
Just put a small canister containing chlorine gas in the nosecone of the rocket and you got yourself a chemical weapon even if it is ineffective. It does not have to be a 1000 kg explosive warhead to weaponize a missile.
Its more complicated than that but I don't think its appropriate for us to discuss that here, or to discuss it at all really because the same situation is not being played out here.Quoted
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Mexico did some work on pulsejets but that seems to have stalled/ been abandoned.
IIRC abandoned because the mods did not like it.
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I don't see this as remotely practical at this stage without some form of terminal guidance and even then its more likely to miss than hit.
With great crudity; probably dead reckoning of predicted flight speed vs flight time. Later on - and I have no idea when - there may be a variant that gives up one or two tons of warhead for an on-board radar set to allow autonomous seeking capability.
How do you expect to monitor the distance to the target?
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