You are not logged in.

Dear visitor, welcome to WesWorld. If this is your first visit here, please read the Help. It explains in detail how this page works. To use all features of this page, you should consider registering. Please use the registration form, to register here or read more information about the registration process. If you are already registered, please login here.

1

Friday, December 26th 2008, 8:00pm

New Russian ships

Posting for Stuart again, who is doing fairly well in Iraq! Designs are posted with some of Stuarts comments.

1937 Izmails

Izmail class, Russian Battlecruisers laid down 1913 (Engine 1937)

Displacement:
33,602 t light; 35,658 t standard; 39,685 t normal; 42,906 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
808.12 ft / 790.68 ft x 100.07 ft (Bulges 111.55 ft) x 31.50 ft (normal load)
246.32 m / 241.00 m x 30.50 m (Bulges 34.00 m) x 9.60 m

Armament:
8 - 16.54" / 420 mm guns (4x2 guns), 2,645.55lbs / 1,200.00kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline, evenly spread
Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
18 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (6x3 guns), 67.03lbs / 30.40kg shells, 1936 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline, all amidships, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
48 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (12x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1936 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread, 4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 22,445 lbs / 10,181 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 9.84" / 250 mm 508.53 ft / 155.00 m 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 99 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
1.18" / 30 mm 508.53 ft / 155.00 m 30.51 ft / 9.30 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13.8" / 350 mm 7.87" / 200 mm 9.84" / 250 mm
2nd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -
3rd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -

- Armour deck: 4.72" / 120 mm, Conning tower: 13.78" / 350 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 143,115 shp / 106,764 Kw = 30.00 kts
Range 9,700nm at 18.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 7,248 tons

Complement:
1,405 - 1,827

Cost:
£4.107 million / $16.428 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2,421 tons, 6.1 %
Armour: 10,932 tons, 27.5 %
- Belts: 2,799 tons, 7.1 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 678 tons, 1.7 %
- Armament: 2,503 tons, 6.3 %
- Armour Deck: 4,607 tons, 11.6 %
- Conning Tower: 345 tons, 0.9 %
Machinery: 3,967 tons, 10.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 16,232 tons, 40.9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 6,083 tons, 15.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 0.1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
45,891 lbs / 20,816 Kg = 20.3 x 16.5 " / 420 mm shells or 7.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.14
Metacentric height 6.4 ft / 2.0 m
Roll period: 18.5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.57
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.12

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
Block coefficient: 0.500
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.09 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 28.12 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 37.40 ft / 11.40 m
- Forecastle (21 %): 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
- Mid (28 %): 26.25 ft / 8.00 m (18.04 ft / 5.50 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 18.04 ft / 5.50 m
- Stern: 18.04 ft / 5.50 m
- Average freeboard: 21.28 ft / 6.49 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 98.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 135.4 %
Waterplane Area: 52,716 Square feet or 4,897 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 210 lbs/sq ft or 1,027 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.24
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Izmail class refit includes: New lengthened bow, replacement of triple 356mm turrets with twin 420mm
turrets, removal of casemate mounts, addition of secondary and antiaircraft batteries in deck mounts
with hoists, new engines, addition of air and surface search radar, removal of upper belt armor,
increased main belt and deck armor, and anti-torpedo bulges.

2

Friday, December 26th 2008, 8:01pm

DD-37

Enter ship name, Russian Destroyer laid down 1937

Displacement:
2,130 t light; 2,252 t standard; 2,563 t normal; 2,813 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
393.57 ft / 383.86 ft x 34.45 ft x 14.44 ft (normal load)
119.96 m / 117.00 m x 10.50 m x 4.40 m

Armament:
6 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (3x2 guns), 79.37lbs / 36.00kg shells, 1937 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
4 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (1x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1937 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in a deck mount with hoist
on centreline aft, all raised guns - superfiring
8 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1937 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts
4 - 0.55" / 14.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.08lbs / 0.04kg shells, 1937 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 495 lbs / 225 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 250
8 - 20.9" / 530 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -
2nd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -
3rd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -

- Conning tower: 0.98" / 25 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 53,260 shp / 39,732 Kw = 35.00 kts
Range 4,000nm at 18.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 561 tons

Complement:
179 - 234

Cost:
£1.626 million / $6.505 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 53 tons, 2.1 %
Armour: 17 tons, 0.7 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 13 tons, 0.5 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 4 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 1,281 tons, 50.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 742 tons, 28.9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 433 tons, 16.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 37 tons, 1.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
665 lbs / 302 Kg = 9.9 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 0.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.33
Metacentric height 1.7 ft / 0.5 m
Roll period: 11.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.70
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.01

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.470
Length to Beam Ratio: 11.14 : 1***
'Natural speed' for length: 22.25 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 68 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 28.22 ft / 8.60 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 20.01 ft / 6.10 m
- Mid (49 %): 20.01 ft / 6.10 m (11.81 ft / 3.60 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 11.81 ft / 3.60 m
- Stern: 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Average freeboard: 16.58 ft / 5.06 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 180.1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 86.4 %
Waterplane Area: 8,915 Square feet or 828 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 75 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 39 lbs/sq ft or 189 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 2.23
- Overall: 0.58
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped

***Yes, she exceeds the 11:1 length:beam ratio. In my defense, I designed her before I left,
and the L:B discussion took place after that. I have no Spring* capability where I am
so modification will have 1to wait until I get back.

3

Friday, December 26th 2008, 8:02pm

Besshumniy (Stealthy), Russian Coastal Submarine laid down 1937

Displacement:
405 t light; 416 t standard; 469 t normal; 512 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
143.21 ft / 143.21 ft x 20.67 ft x 11.81 ft (normal load)
43.65 m / 43.65 m x 6.30 m x 3.60 m

Armament:
1 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1937 Model
Anti-aircraft gun in deck mount
on centreline forward
1 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1937 Model
Machine gun in deck mount
on centreline amidships
Weight of broadside 2 lbs / 1 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 2,000
6 - 20.9" / 530 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion generators plus batteries,
Electric motors, 2 shafts, 2,395 shp / 1,787 Kw = 18.00 kts
Range 4,100nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 96 tons

Complement:
49 - 65

Cost:
£0.129 million / $0.516 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 66 tons, 14.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 230 tons, 49.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 65 tons, 13.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 108 tons, 23.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
11 lbs / 5 Kg = 7.2 x 1.5 " / 37 mm shells or 0.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.02
Metacentric height 0.5 ft / 0.1 m
Roll period: 12.5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 2 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 0.00

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.470
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.93 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 11.97 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 65 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 0.33 ft / 0.10 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 0.33 ft / 0.10 m
- Mid (50 %): 0.33 ft / 0.10 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 0.33 ft / 0.10 m
- Stern: 0.33 ft / 0.10 m
- Average freeboard: 0.33 ft / 0.10 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 470.3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 2.3 %
Waterplane Area: 1,836 Square feet or 171 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 194 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 83 lbs/sq ft or 406 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 3.00
- Longitudinal: 2.99
- Overall: 2.99
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is extremely poor
Room for accommodation and workspaces is extremely poor
Ship has quick, lively roll, not a steady gun platform
Caution: Lacks seaworthiness - very limited seakeeping ability

11,500nm @ 8kts
6,600nm @ 10kts
4,100nm @ 12 kts


78 tons ballast
10 tons sonar
20 tons torpedo reloads (10 fwd, 2 aft)

Operational Depth - 300 ft/91 m
Emergency Depth - 480 ft/146 m
Crush Depth - 750 ft/229 m

4

Friday, December 26th 2008, 8:02pm

1939 Sloop

Enter ship name, Russian Sloop laid down 1939

Displacement:
685 t light; 762 t standard; 855 t normal; 929 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
281.72 ft / 269.03 ft x 27.56 ft x 9.84 ft (normal load)
85.87 m / 82.00 m x 8.40 m x 3.00 m

Armament:
9 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns (3x3 guns), 37.48lbs / 17.00kg shells, 1939 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount superfiring
4 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (1x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1939 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in a deck mount with hoist
on centreline aft, all raised guns - superfiring
4 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1939 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread
4 - 0.55" / 14.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.08lbs / 0.04kg shells, 1939 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 350 lbs / 159 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 300
4 - 20.9" / 530 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -
2nd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -
3rd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -

- Conning tower: 0.98" / 25 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 1 shaft, 10,485 shp / 7,822 Kw = 27.00 kts
Range 6,000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 167 tons

Complement:
78 - 102

Cost:
£0.529 million / $2.117 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 36 tons, 4.2 %
Armour: 13 tons, 1.5 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 11 tons, 1.2 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 2 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 263 tons, 30.7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 304 tons, 35.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 169 tons, 19.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 70 tons, 8.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
427 lbs / 194 Kg = 14.0 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.21
Metacentric height 1.0 ft / 0.3 m
Roll period: 11.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.79
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.65

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.410
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.76 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 18.98 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 43
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 21.98 ft / 6.70 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Mid (50 %): 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Stern: 14.76 ft / 4.50 m
- Average freeboard: 13.96 ft / 4.25 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 145.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 96.7 %
Waterplane Area: 4,766 Square feet or 443 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 91 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 29 lbs/sq ft or 140 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 3.94
- Overall: 0.62
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

10 tons sonar.
30 tons depth charges
8 tons torpedo reloads
22 tons cargo/additional stores


Twin semiautomatic 100mm DP mounts simmed as triples

5

Friday, December 26th 2008, 8:03pm

Kashgar class, Russian Patrol Boat laid down 1937

Displacement:
350 t light; 364 t standard; 408 t normal; 444 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
206.69 ft / 206.69 ft x 22.97 ft x 5.91 ft (normal load)
63.00 m / 63.00 m x 7.00 m x 1.80 m

Armament:
1 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1937 Model
Dual purpose gun in deck mount
on centreline forward
2 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (1x2 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1937 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in a deck mount with hoist
on centreline aft
4 - 0.55" / 14.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.08lbs / 0.04kg shells, 1937 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 17 lbs / 8 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 500

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -
2nd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 1 shaft, 3,391 shp / 2,530 Kw = 21.00 kts
Range 4,000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 80 tons

Complement:
45 - 59

Cost:
£0.148 million / $0.593 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2 tons, 0.5 %
Armour: 2 tons, 0.4 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 2 tons, 0.4 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 94 tons, 23.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 208 tons, 50.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 58 tons, 14.2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 45 tons, 11.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
829 lbs / 376 Kg = 61.4 x 3.0 " / 76 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.17
Metacentric height 0.7 ft / 0.2 m
Roll period: 11.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.07
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.84

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.510
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 14.38 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 27
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 18.04 ft / 5.50 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 11.48 ft / 3.50 m
- Mid (50 %): 11.48 ft / 3.50 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 11.48 ft / 3.50 m
- Stern: 11.48 ft / 3.50 m
- Average freeboard: 12.01 ft / 3.66 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 92.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 149.4 %
Waterplane Area: 3,074 Square feet or 286 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 162 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 30 lbs/sq ft or 148 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.82
- Longitudinal: 6.16
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

6

Friday, December 26th 2008, 9:15pm

Glad to hear Stuart is doing well. Do you know when he'll be returning home?

Pleased to see the Ismail refit finally come to light! :D

7

Friday, December 26th 2008, 10:15pm

He hasn't told me when he's back, I suppose for security reasons but he did say his work week got a wee bit shorter due to the holidays down from seven 14 hour days to seven 10 hour days!

8

Friday, December 26th 2008, 10:28pm

Quoted

Originally posted by thesmilingassassin
He hasn't told me when he's back, I suppose for security reasons but he did say his work week got a wee bit shorter due to the holidays down from seven 14 hour days to seven 10 hour days!

Ewww! 8o I hope he's getting paid well for that! :P

9

Friday, December 26th 2008, 10:31pm

I know I would at my pay if I worked 70 hour weeks, once the overtime pay kicked in after 40!!

10

Friday, December 26th 2008, 10:54pm

I know how it feels....

With the extra hours at Christmas/New Year, I'm doing about 2 months work in 5 weeks.

11

Friday, December 26th 2008, 11:20pm

I guess I must be getting your time off Mac, I'm worked 1 day this week and I'll be working 2 next week.

12

Friday, December 26th 2008, 11:41pm

Quoted

Originally posted by thesmilingassassin
I guess I must be getting your time off Mac, I'm worked 1 day this week and I'll be working 2 next week.

Sounds like a good time to write your Atlantean news and sim reports, huh? ;) :D

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Brockpaine" (Dec 26th 2008, 11:42pm)


13

Friday, December 26th 2008, 11:52pm

Thanks for the subtle reminder :P

14

Friday, December 26th 2008, 11:53pm

Subtle? That wasn't subtle, that was my brand-new Christmas mallet! :P

15

Saturday, December 27th 2008, 12:12am

Quoted

Originally posted by thesmilingassassin
I guess I must be getting your time off Mac, I'm worked 1 day this week and I'll be working 2 next week.


Give it back right NOW!!!!

16

Saturday, December 27th 2008, 12:14am

Quoted

Originally posted by Brockpaine
Subtle? That wasn't subtle, that was my brand-new Christmas mallet! :P

You forgot the "tm", as in "Brand new Christmas Mallet [SIZE=1](tm)[/SIZE]!!"

17

Saturday, December 27th 2008, 1:44am

Quoted

Originally posted by Commodore Green

Quoted

Originally posted by thesmilingassassin
I guess I must be getting your time off Mac, I'm worked 1 day this week and I'll be working 2 next week.


Give it back right NOW!!!!


:D

18

Saturday, December 27th 2008, 7:27pm

On the Izmail, looks like it's missing any heavy AA, unless the 130mm battery is supposed to be dual-purpose instead of breech-loading. Also, I doubt the 37mm mounts need (or can use, at this point) hoists.

19

Sunday, March 15th 2009, 9:56am

Revised DD_37

Reducing the L:B ratio

Costs a little less to build too!

DD_37, Russian Destroyer laid down 1937

Displacement:
2,125 t light; 2,246 t standard; 2,557 t normal; 2,805 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
393.57 ft / 383.86 ft x 35.10 ft x 14.44 ft (normal load)
119.96 m / 117.00 m x 10.70 m x 4.40 m

Armament:
6 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (3x2 guns), 79.37lbs / 36.00kg shells, 1937 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
4 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (1x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1937 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in a deck mount with hoist
on centreline aft, all raised guns - superfiring
8 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1937 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread
4 - 0.55" / 14.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.08lbs / 0.04kg shells, 1937 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 495 lbs / 225 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 250
8 - 20.9" / 530 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -
2nd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -
3rd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 52,857 shp / 39,432 Kw = 35.00 kts
Range 4,000nm at 18.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 559 tons

Complement:
179 - 233

Cost:
£1.620 million / $6.479 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 53 tons, 2.1 %
Armour: 13 tons, 0.5 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 13 tons, 0.5 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 1,274 tons, 49.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 748 tons, 29.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 432 tons, 16.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 37 tons, 1.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
674 lbs / 306 Kg = 10.1 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 0.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.34
Metacentric height 1.7 ft / 0.5 m
Roll period: 11.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.67
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.00

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.460
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.93 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22.31 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 68 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 28.22 ft / 8.60 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 20.01 ft / 6.10 m
- Mid (49 %): 20.01 ft / 6.10 m (11.81 ft / 3.60 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 11.81 ft / 3.60 m
- Stern: 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Average freeboard: 16.58 ft / 5.06 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 179.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 88.4 %
Waterplane Area: 9,005 Square feet or 837 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 75 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 39 lbs/sq ft or 192 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 2.19
- Overall: 0.58
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "AdmKuznetsov" (Mar 18th 2009, 10:09am)


20

Monday, March 16th 2009, 4:57pm

Looks good to me!