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Greece - 1925 Q4

A. Industrial Allocation

15/15 Factories designated to Naval production
15000 tons per quarter

2579 tons from last Quarter
15065 tons used this Quarter
2514 tons to holdover to next Quarter

B. Infrastructure Development

None.

C. Shipyard Activity
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PROGRAM ALPHA (Large Ship Program)
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AC-2 Attica T3 Dry A Light Displ: 14663
Laid down: 1-Jan-25 Launched: 11-Oct-25 Clear slip: 8-Nov-25
Completed: 11-Dec-26 Enter Service: 9-Jun-27
Q4 1900 t this Q 7519 t total 51% completed


AC-3 Attica T3 Dry B Light Displ: 12800
Laid down: 1-Jan-25 Launched: 19-Sep-25 Clear slip: 17-Oct-25
Completed: 17-Oct-26 Enter Service: 15-Apr-27
Q4 1801 t this Q 7124 t total 56% completed

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PROGRAM GAMMA (Medium Ship Program)
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Flot Leader program
C-17FL Suda Bay T2 Dry Light Displ: 2962
Laid down: 1-Jan-25 Launched: 24-May-25 Clear slip: 14-Jun-25
Completed: 25-Dec-25 Enter Service: 23-Jun-26
Q4 717 t this Q 2962 t total 100% completed

C-18FL Suda Bay T2 Dry Light Displ: 2962
Laid down: 1-Oct-25 Launched: 21-Feb-26 Clear slip: 14-Mar-26
Completed: 24-Sep-26 Enter Service: 23-Mar-27 completed
Q4 751 t this Q 751 t total 25% completed

Escort Cruiser Program
C-19Escort Attica T2 Slip A Light Displ: 5769
Laid down: 1-Jan-25 Launched: 27-Jun-25 Clear slip: 18-Jul-25
Completed: 20-Mar-26 Enter Service: 16-Sep-26
Q4 1198 t this Q 4739 t total 82% completed

C-20Escort Attica T2 Slip A Light Displ: 5769
Laid down: 1-Oct-25 Launched: 27-Mar-26 Clear slip: 17-Apr-26
Completed: 18-Dec-26 Enter Service: 16-Jun-27
Q4 1185 t this Q 1185 t total 21% completed


AS/DD
AS-1 Attica T2 Slip B Light Displ: 4500
Laid down: 1-Jan-25 Launched: 12-Jun-25 Clear slip: 3-Jul-25
Completed: 10-Feb-26 Enter Service: 9-Aug-26
Q4 1022 t this Q 4044 t total 90% completed

D-30 Attica T2 Slip B Light Displ: 1353
Laid down: 1-Oct-25 Launched: 2-Feb-26 Clear slip: 9-Feb-26
Completed: 7-Aug-26 Enter Service: 3-Feb-27
Q4 396 t this Q 396 t total 29% completed


D-28 Attica T2 Dry A Light Displ: 1353
Laid down: 1-Jan-25 Launched: 5-May-25 Clear slip: 12-May-25
Completed: 7-Nov-25 Enter Service: 6-May-26
Q4 168 t this Q 1353 t total 100% completed

D-29 Attica T2 Dry A Light Displ: 1353
Laid down: 1-Jul-25 Launched: 2-Nov-25 Clear slip: 9-Nov-25
Completed: 7-May-26 Enter Service: 3-Nov-26
Q4 401 t this Q 797 t total 59% completed

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PROGRAM EPSILON (Escort Program)
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G-1 Attica T1 Slip A Light Displ: 1878
Laid down: 1-Jan-25 Launched: 11-May-25 Clear slip: 25-May-25
Completed: 23-Nov-25 Enter Service: 22-May-26
Q4 313 t this Q 1878 t total 100% completed

G-3 Attica T1 Slip A Light Displ: 1878
Laid down: 1-Jul-25 Launched: 8-Nov-25 Clear slip: 22-Nov-25
Completed: 23-May-26 Enter Service: 19-Nov-26
Q4 529 t this Q 1053 t total 56% completed

G-2 Attica T1 Slip B Light Displ: 1878
Laid down: 1-Jan-25 Launched: 11-May-25 Clear slip: 25-May-25
Completed: 23-Nov-25 Enter Service: 22-May-26
Q4 313 t this Q 1878 t total 100% completed

G-4 Attica T1 Slip B Light Displ: 1878
Laid down: 1-Jul-25 Launched: 8-Nov-25 Clear slip: 22-Nov-25
Completed: 23-May-26 Enter Service: 19-Nov-26
Q4 529 t this Q 1053 t total 56% completed

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F-1 Patra T1 Dry A Light Displ: 1878
Laid down: 1-Jan-25 Launched: 11-May-25 Clear slip: 25-May-25
Completed: 23-Nov-25 Enter Service: 22-May-26
Q4 313 t this Q 1878 t total 100% completed

F-4 Patra T1 Dry A Light Displ: 1878
Laid down: 1-Jul-25 Launched: 8-Nov-25 Clear slip: 22-Nov-25
Completed: 23-May-26 Enter Service: 19-Nov-26
Q4 529 t this Q 1053 t total 56% completed

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F-2 Patra T1 Slip A Light Displ: 1878
Laid down: 1-Jan-25 Launched: 11-May-25 Clear slip: 25-May-25
Completed: 23-Nov-25 Enter Service: 22-May-26
Q4 313 t this Q 1878 t total 100% completed

F-5 Patra T1 Slip A Light Displ: 1878
Laid down: 1-Jul-25 Launched: 8-Nov-25 Clear slip: 22-Nov-25
Completed: 23-May-26 Enter Service: 19-Nov-26
Q4 529 t this Q 1053 t total 56% completed

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F-3 Salamis T1 Dry A Light Displ: 1878
Laid down: 1-Jan-25 Launched: 11-May-25 Clear slip: 25-May-25
Completed: 23-Nov-25 Enter Service: 22-May-26
Q4 313 t this Q 1878 t total 100% completed

F-6 Salamis T1 Dry A Light Displ: 1878
Laid down: 1-Jul-25 Launched: 8-Nov-25 Clear slip: 22-Nov-25
Completed: 23-May-26 Enter Service: 19-Nov-26
Q4 529 t this Q 1053 t total 56% completed

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M-1 Volos T1 Dry A Light Displ: 1878
Laid down: 1-Jan-25 Launched: 11-May-25 Clear slip: 25-May-25
Completed: 23-Nov-25 Enter Service: 22-May-26
Q4 313 t this Q 1878 t total 100% completed

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LIGHT COMBATANT PROGRAM
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MS-5 Attica T0 Slip Light Displ: 800
Laid down: 1-Jan-25 Launched: 28-Apr-25 Clear slip: 5-May-25
Completed: 22-Oct-25 Enter Service: 20-Apr-26
Q4 60 t this Q 800 t total 100% completed

MS-6 Attica T0 Slip Light Displ: 800
Laid down: 1-Jul-25 Launched: 26-Oct-25 Clear slip: 2-Nov-25
Completed: 21-Apr-26 Enter Service: 18-Oct-26
Q4 250 t this Q 498 t total 62% completed


T-16 Thessalonica T0 Slip Light Displ: 600
Laid down: 1-Jan-25 Launched: 26-Apr-25 Clear slip: 3-May-25
Completed: 16-Oct-25 Enter Service: 14-Apr-26
Q4 33 t this Q 600 t total 100% completed

T-17 Thessalonica T0 Slip Light Displ: 600
Laid down: 3-May-25 Launched: 26-Aug-25 Clear slip: 2-Sep-25
Completed: 15-Feb-26 Enter Service: 14-Aug-26
Q4 192 t this Q 504 t total 84% completed

T-18 Thessalonica T0 Slip Light Displ: 600
Laid down: 2-Sep-25 Launched: 26-Dec-25 Clear slip: 2-Jan-26
Completed: 17-Jun-26 Enter Service: 14-Dec-26
Q4 192 t this Q 250 t total 42% completed


S-10 Paros T0 Dry Light Displ: 425
Laid down: 1-Jan-25 Launched: 24-Apr-25 Clear slip: 1-May-25
Completed: 10-Oct-25 Enter Service: 8-Apr-26
Q4 16 t this Q 425 t total 100% completed

S-11 Paros T0 Dry Light Displ: 425
Laid down: 1-May-25 Launched: 22-Aug-25 Clear slip: 29-Aug-25
Completed: 7-Feb-26 Enter Service: 6-Aug-26
Q4 138 t this Q 367 t total 86% completed

S-12 Paros T0 Dry Light Displ: 425
Laid down: 29-Jul-25 Launched: 19-Nov-25 Clear slip: 26-Nov-25
Completed: 7-May-26 Enter Service: 3-Nov-26
Q4 138 t this Q 233 t total 55% completed

Attica T0 Slip Idle
Patra T0 Dry Idle
Thessalonica T0 Dry Idle
Thessalonica T0 Slip Idle

LIGHT CRAFT PROGRAM
One 36t Motor Torpedo Boat

E. Other Activities - see News

F. Order of Battle - see Encyclopedia

I have absolutely no idea whether you have given us the specs for these ships or not, but its confused me.

Try Rocky's report style, you know you'll like it...

Better do it before he gets a patent!

I haven't asigned names as yet - just numbers. Still mulling over that aspect.

I'm still working with my spreadsheet and trying to improve the output.

I think all the ships have designs posted under the design section but my encyclopedia is incomplete. The only one that could be lacking is the seaplane carrier AC-3 but I did discus it in a thread.

I've organised it around ship sizes rather than yards but I'll include all the info required inc expected enter service. I found I was making errors transposing my spreadsheet to my report so I thought this would be an improvement.

I'll do what I can to improve things.

Cheers,

This is the drawing for the seaplane carrier - unfinished.



and the Springstyle rep

AV1925, GREEK aircraft tender laid down 1925

Displacement:
12,800 t light; 13,150 t standard; 15,324 t normal; 17,002 t full load
Loading submergence 816 tons/feet

Dimensions:
664.00 ft x 76.80 ft x 25.00 ft (normal load)
202.39 m x 23.41 m x 7.62 m

Armament:
4 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (2 Main turrets x 2 guns)
24 - 2.00" / 51 mm guns
8 - 0.50" / 13 mm AA guns
Weight of broadside 529 lbs / 240 kg

Armour:
Main turrets 1.00" / 25 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 18,117 shp / 13,515 Kw = 20.00 kts
Range 12,500nm at 15.00 kts

Complement:
688 - 895

Cost:
£1.917 million / $7.669 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 66 tons, 0.4 %
Armour: 39 tons, 0.3 %
Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %, Armament: 39 tons, 0.3 %, Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %, Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 588 tons, 3.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,757 tons, 31.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,524 tons, 16.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 7,350 tons, 48.0 %

Metacentric height 3.4

Remarks:
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation & workspaces is excellent
Excellent seaboat, comfortable and able to fight her guns in the heaviest weather

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.01
Shellfire needed to sink: 23,176 lbs / 10,513 Kg = 214.6 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 3.1
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 56 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0.06
Relative quality as seaboat: 1.64

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.421
Sharpness coefficient: 0.32
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 8.18
'Natural speed' for length: 25.77 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 28 %
Trim: 34
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 68.6 %
Relative accommodation and working space: 158.1 %
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 169 %
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 0.98
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 102 lbs / square foot or 497 Kg / square metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 1.20
(for 20.00 ft / 6.10 m average freeboard, freeboard adjustment 3.51 ft)
Relative composite hull strength: 1.00

A wonderful ship. More or less what I was tickering with too. Would Greece sell the plans?

How many planes do you think she can carry? Where to place all those light guns?

Regarding the drawing, could it be that there is some japanese influence here? The superstructure seems to be along the lines of late-war japanese carriers... In general the ship seems somewhat influenced by those japanese AVs (Shitose etc.) build in the 1930s (and some later re-build as carriers).

Definately and odd and very interesting design.
What classification would she fall into under the CT rules?

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What classification would she fall into under the CT rules?

Presumably part G, I, (c)...

Yes, part G, I, (c)
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(c) Naval surface vessels not specifically built as fighting ships
which are employed on fleet duties or as troop transports or in
some other way than as fighting ships, provided they have none of
the following characteristics:
(1) Mount a gun above 6 inch (153 mm) calibre;
(2) Mount more than four guns above 3 inch (76 mm) calibre;
(3) Are designed or fitted to launch torpedoes:
(4) Are designed for a speed greater than 20 knots;
(5) Are protected by armour plate on the hull;
(6) Are designed or fitted to launch mines;
(7) Are fitted to receive aircraft on board from the air;
( Mount more than one aircraft-launching apparatus on the
centre line; or two, one on each broadside;
(9) If fitted with any means of launching aircraft into the air,
are designed or adapted to operate at sea more than ten
aircraft.
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So she carries 10 aircraft but the need is for a mobile seaplane base so there is workshops, accomodation, fuel, stores etc. The 6" guns are the same as the escort crusier and I think I'll cut down on the light guns.

The design shares a great deal with the with the carrier also under construction, they are twinned in many ways. They are closer in concept to the US style of AV (large tender) rather than the Japanese (seaplane carrier) role although they do look similar to the IJN ships.




Cheers,

Another beautifull design! One thing I'm unsure about is your lifeboat layout, your midship boats look incredibly crowded in their little alcoves.

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Another beautifull design! One thing I'm unsure about is your lifeboat layout, your midship boats look incredibly crowded in their little alcoves

A little different but the features are on par for mid 20's design ideas and Greece has an experimental carrier to learn on. The slots for the boats are 7ft high and fit in under the hangar deck floor.

Cheers,