WesWorld

1/04/1922-31/06/1922 2nd quarter

17 Factories

Genoa -
Type 3 Slipway - Generale Antonio Cantore – 7.5 months left -1000t
Type 3 Slipway - Generale Antonino Cascino – 7.5months left – 1000t
Type 3 Drydock -
Type 3 Drydock -
Type 1 Slipway - Generale Antonio Chinotto- 7.5months left – 500t
Type 1 Drydock -

Francesco Morosini – launched Q1/22 – 16.4months left – 3000t
DL-01 – Completed

Taranto -
Type 4 Slipway - Generale Marcello Prestinari- 7.5 months left – 500t
Type 4 Drydock -
Type 3 Slipway - MM Aries – 8 months left – 2000t
Type 3 Slipway -Generale Achille Papa – 7.5months left – 500t
Type 3 Drydock -
Type 3 Drydock -
Type 1 Slipway - Generale Carlo Montanari – 7.5months left – 500t
Type 1 Drydock -

DL-02 – Completed

Naples -
Type 3 Slipway -
Type 3 Drydock -
Type 1 Slipway -
Type 1 Drydock -

Venice -
Type 3 Slipway -
Type 3 Drydock –
Type 1 Slipway -
Type 1 Drydock -

Messina -
Type 4 Slipway -
Type 4 Drydock -
Type 3 Slipway – MM Sicilia – 35 months left – 3000t
Type 3 Slipway –
Type 3 Drydock –
Type 3 Drydock -
Type 1 Slipway -
Type 1 Drydock –

Cristoforto Columbo – 5.7 months left –launched 1920 – fitting out



12,000tons materials needed.
12 factories produce 12,000t of materials

5 unfixed factories produce 0.5pts

0.5pts spent on factory no. 18
Factory No. 18 needs 5.8pts to complete

Type 3 port at Mogadishu needs 8.0pts to complete



Fleet Strength
BB. 6(0)+2
CV. 0(0)+1
CA. 1(0)+0
CL. 7(0)+0
CDA. 0(0)+1
DD. 40(0)+6
Escorts. 15(0)+0

A Class of 6 large type B destroyers, combining heavy armament and good speed, whilst retaining sufficient seakeeping qualities. The mountings are part of a military purchase from Iberia, but the 100mm/45 guns are built in Italy. They retain a 3"/40 weapon.





DD-22-01, Italian Destroyer laid down 1922

Displacement:
1,526 t light; 1,581 t standard; 1,680 t normal; 1,753 t full load
Loading submergence 189 tons/feet

Dimensions:
350.00 ft x 35.00 ft x 12.00 ft (normal load)
106.68 m x 10.67 m x 3.66 m

Armament:
8 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns (2 Main turrets x 4 guns)
1 - 3.00" / 76 mm guns
4 - 0.79" / 20 mm guns
Weight of broadside 259 lbs / 117 kg
4 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:

Conning tower 2.95" / 75 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 40,954 shp / 30,552 Kw = 33.50 kts
Range 5,000nm at 10.00 kts

Complement:
131 - 170

Cost:
£0.574 million / $2.296 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 32 tons, 1.9 %
Armour: 9 tons, 0.5 %
Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %, Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %, Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Conning Tower: 9 tons, 0.5 %, Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 928 tons, 55.2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 517 tons, 30.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 154 tons, 9.2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 40 tons, 2.4 %

Metacentric height 1.5

Remarks:
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation & workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.22
Shellfire needed to sink: 387 lbs / 176 Kg = 12.7 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 0.3
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 72 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0.49
Relative quality as seaboat: 1.07

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.400
Sharpness coefficient: 0.30
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 9.00
'Natural speed' for length: 18.71 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 67 %
Trim: 67
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 195.4 %
Relative accommodation and working space: 115.8 %
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 54 %
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 0.52
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 39 lbs / square foot or 191 Kg / square metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 1.50
(for 15.50 ft / 4.72 m average freeboard, freeboard adjustment 4.90 ft)
Relative composite hull strength: 0.58

"Francesco Morosini" --> That´s your CV, right?

Do you have any stats at hand?

Yes Francesco Morosini is Italy's first carrier;

http://www.geocities.com/red_admiral_italy/morosini.html

Note that she will not be carrying her full 72 plane load as the Italian Naval Air Force does not have enough planes. The extra misc. weight because she is converted from a BB.

Any particular reason for wanting them?

Well, to be honest, I still have no idea where my own CV-building program should lead to - heck! I´ve not even decided if there will be a CV-building program....

To me it is really difficult to decide what is reasonable in world like Wesworld without using too much hindsight or hindsight at all. I mean, we all know that in the end those nasty CVs will rule the wave and it is really difficult to step back and look at it from an angle as if there is no hindsight...

Got the drift?

Very interesting design, btw. Lots of smaller guns. Could you please explain the doctrine behind that? Thanks.

HoOmAn

PS: Quad mounts on DDs? What a waste of resources! Even those 10,2cm triples (shields) on the british BCs proofed that such a mount would lack sufficient ROF and I can´t think for my life of a reason why a quad mount should offer decent ROF.... On DDs you´ll have to be prepared for fast and short brawls and therefore you´ll need ROF more than anything else. Good luck with those quads! ;o)

This design doesn't really use hindsight at all. There really was a plan to convert a Caracciolo class BB into a carrier. I've just modified it so that it is below 27,000t. The picture is lengthened a bit and i've added more 100mm guns but overwise it is fairly original.

I don't have any 6" shielded mounts that i could fit onto her, so i've added lots of 100mm guns instead. The elevation of the mounts is only 40degrees however.


As i said before the quad mounts are part of a military purchase from Iberia. I wanted to try a turreted design and there isn't enough space for 4 duple turrets, and having 4x130mm in duples means a bigger ship. They have a longer range and more misc. weight than my other designs as well. its a case of keep it small, and ohh lets try this. So the RoF won't be that good; trial and error in practice.

You know, this might sound stupid...
... but doesn't June have 30 days? You gave the date as 31/6/1922

I like your "trial and error" approach on the quads. Remember, you can always blame Iberia for that design.

Walter

You are quite correct. June does have 30 days.

Aren't scapegoats a wonderful thing...