United States Q2/32

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CanisD

Professional

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Monday, September 11th 2006, 5:51am

United States Q2/32

2nd Quarter 1932
Total # of Factories--Factories for Naval Cons.--Factories for IP--Dedicated IP Factories
28+2--6 for 6000 tons +1300(Mexico)--22 For 2.2 IP--21 for 2.1 IP in Q4/32

Surplus Tons--Tons Used--Left Over Tonnage
836—7464--672

Ships under Construction
Ship’s Name--L/D—Shipyard--Q/Y--Tons/Q--Status
CV Yorktown--Q4/31--Norfolk T5 Slip--Q3/10—2066--Building
CL Hermosillo (Mexico)--Q1/32--Mare Island Type 2 Slip--Q2/7—1300--Building

Ships Under Repair, Refit, Rebuilding, or Reconstruction
Ship’s Name—Started—Shipyard--Q/Y--Tons/Q--Status
BB Pennsylvania Rebuild--Q3/31--New York T5 DD--Q4/7—2049--Rebuilding
BB Arizona Rebuild--Q3/31--New York T4 DD--Q4/7—2049--Rebuilding

Ships Being Scrapped
Ship’s Name—Started—Shipyard--Q/Y--Tons/Rec.--Status

Industrial Production
Project--Total IP Req.--IP Allocated--IP Remaining
Build Factory 29—10--1.5--2.4
Build Factory 30—10--0.7--8.2

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HoOmAn

Keeper of the Sacred Block Coefficient

Posts: 7,417

Monday, September 11th 2006, 11:19am

Maintenance costs instead of new factories?

Hi Canis,

I sometimes wonder why a large navy like yours has only a few ships in the docks for a refit or rebuild. I would expect douzands of cruisers, destroyers, frigates, escorts, minesweepers, coast guard cutters etc. to be good for a refit or rebuild. The USN doesn´t seem to care much about those units, leaving them to rust away as nothing of the huge industrial potential is used to keep these units up-to-date....

Cheers,

HoOmAn

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thesmilingassassin

The Chosen One

Posts: 13,513

Monday, September 11th 2006, 11:31am

Heh, I'd run the four stackers into the ground too if I was running the show, the rest seems to be fairly new so no refits nessassary. Only some of the older BB's to my outside knowledge have recieved refits.

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HoOmAn

Keeper of the Sacred Block Coefficient

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Monday, September 11th 2006, 11:34am

Block obsolescence then?!

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Hrolf Hakonson

Scooby-Doo

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Monday, September 11th 2006, 11:38am

Quite possibly, that's how they were originally designed.

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Alikchi

Professional

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Monday, September 11th 2006, 11:55am

I'm guessing they'll all be either scrapped or refitted to be APDs/DMs/DMSs anyways.

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thesmilingassassin

The Chosen One

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Monday, September 11th 2006, 12:08pm

Given the sheer number of four stackers and their eligibility for replacement I'd say the U.S. plans on running them till they die. only those in the best condition will likely get refits or rebuilds.

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ShinRa_Inc

Mad Scientist at Work

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Monday, September 11th 2006, 8:08pm

As I recall, a bunch of the four stackers got refits a year or two back after one was lost in a storm.

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CanisD

Professional

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Monday, September 11th 2006, 10:35pm

The four-stackers were generally unmodified throughout their lives, and they don't have much room for improvement, so I don't plan major refits for them. I'm planning a new destroyer and cruiser building program to begin in 1933 to replace pretty much all the WW1 era ships. As for my other ships, all my cruisers are at most a decade old, the carriers even younger. The battleships are being refitted a class at a time, no more than 2-3 at any one time. And, the US has always neglected light units, building large numbers of small units in emergency programs once it looks like war is on the way. Congress has been willing to spend money in peacetime on big "sexy" battleships and such, but not lighter units.

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thesmilingassassin

The Chosen One

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Tuesday, September 12th 2006, 6:16am

Atlantis tends to do the same with its DD's. Only the Admiralty type 1 class have been refited. Minor CL refits will start soon.

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HoOmAn

Keeper of the Sacred Block Coefficient

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Tuesday, September 12th 2006, 8:52am

Hmmm... The SAE has refitted or rebuild nearly everything in the fleet older than 10 years, especially cruisers and torpedoboats (if not sold).. Cost me a lot of material, though.

I know our rules set the borderline at 20 years but can a unit really be used 20 years in a single configuration?

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CanisD

Professional

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Tuesday, September 12th 2006, 9:41am

15 years seems like a more realistic time frame. BTW, the current infrastructure rules don't mention the deterioration of a ship as it ages, only listing life extension refits under the Level 3 Major Refit rules.

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HoOmAn

Keeper of the Sacred Block Coefficient

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Tuesday, September 12th 2006, 10:19am

I know the rules and I didn´t say players need to refit there ships every 10 years (or even less). It´s just something I decided for myself. :o)

However, there are bottlenecks when you have four capital ships plus carriers and cruisers building and a few units have to be kept going without a refit or rebuild..... :o/

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CanisD

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Tuesday, September 12th 2006, 7:39pm

I wasn't implying anything about you not knowing the rules, just that I though we used to have a rule that a ship deteriorated something like 1% per year after a certain age, like 15 or 20 and I couldn't find that in the latest version of the IR.

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