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- C.2/41: Specification for a twin-engine day and night fighter (bomber destroyer) with a speed of 600kph or better. No French contenders are currently capable of meeting specifications.
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- T.3/41: Specification for a twin-engine or four-engine transport capable of carrying 15 tons of cargo or forty paratroopers, with a specified range of 2,500 km.
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[SIZE=4]Breguet Br.890 Épaulard ("Killer Whale") dive bomber[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Specifications[/SIZE]
Wingspan: 14.5 m (47.6 feet)
Length: 13.7 m (44.9 feet)
Height: 4.85 m (15.9 feet)
Wing Area: 38 m² (409 ft²)
Empty weight: 5,000 kg (11,023 lbs)
Max Takeoff Weight: 7,950 kg (17,527 lbs)
Engine: 1 × Gnome-Rhone Mistral Titan 18k (2,240hp takeoff)
Crew: 2-3 (pilot, turret gunner and radioman/bombardier)
[SIZE=3]Performance[/SIZE]
Max speed: 475 kph (295.15 mph)
Cruise speed: 325 kph (201.9 mph)
Range: 2,053.5 km (1,276 miles)
Service ceiling: 8,575 m (28,133 ft)
Rate of climb: 8.75 mps (17.22 fpm)
[SIZE=3]Armament[/SIZE]
- 2 × 0.50 mm MGs in turret
- 2 × 0.50 mm MGs in wings (deleted in later models)
- 1 × 900kg (1,984 lb) bombs
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[SIZE=4]Latécoère Late-550 Épaulard ("Killer Whale") torpedo bomber[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Specifications[/SIZE]
Wingspan: 14.5 m (47.6 feet)
Length: 13.2 m (43.3 feet)
Height: 4.85 m (15.9 feet)
Wing Area: 38 m² (409 ft²)
Empty weight: 4,950 kg (10,913 lbs)
Max Takeoff Weight: 7,950 kg (17,527 lbs)
Engine: 1 × Gnome-Rhone Mistral Titan 18k (2,240hp takeoff)
Crew: 2-3 (pilot, turret gunner and radioman/bombardier)
[SIZE=3]Performance[/SIZE]
Max speed: 475 kph (295.15 mph)
Cruise speed: 325 kph (201.9 mph)
Range: 2,053.5 km (1,276 miles)
Service ceiling: 8,575 m (28,133 ft)
Rate of climb: 8.75 mps (17.22 fpm)
[SIZE=3]Armament[/SIZE]
- 2 × 0.50 mm MGs in turret
- 2 × 0.50 mm MGs in wings (deleted in later models)
- 1 × 900kg (1,984 lb) bombs or torpedoes
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Originally posted by BruceDuncan
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- C.2/41: Specification for a twin-engine day and night fighter (bomber destroyer) with a speed of 600kph or better. No French contenders are currently capable of meeting specifications.
Is this, in effect, a request for proposals directed to potential foreign suppliers?
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Originally posted by BruceDuncan
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- T.3/41: Specification for a twin-engine or four-engine transport capable of carrying 15 tons of cargo or forty paratroopers, with a specified range of 2,500 km.
15 tons of cargo? that is five times that of the C-47, and only 40 paratroops?
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Originally posted by Brockpaine
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Originally posted by BruceDuncan
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- C.2/41: Specification for a twin-engine day and night fighter (bomber destroyer) with a speed of 600kph or better. No French contenders are currently capable of meeting specifications.
Is this, in effect, a request for proposals directed to potential foreign suppliers?
Yes, although I have some options if the planes proposed don't interest me.
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[SIZE=4]Lioré-et-Olivier LeO 400 scout-observation seaplane[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Specifications[/SIZE]
Wingspan: 12.65m (41.5 feet)
Length: 10.915m (35.8 feet)
Height: 5.1m (16.8 feet)
Wing Area: 27.5 m² (296 ft²)
Empty weight: 2,905.5 kg (6,394 lbs)
Max Takeoff Weight: 4,317.5 kg (9,498.5 lbs)
Engine: 1 × Gnome-Rhone 14M (1325hp takeoff)
Crew: 2 (pilot, gunner-observer)
[SIZE=3]Performance[/SIZE]
Max speed: 471.5 kph (292.8 mph)
Cruising speed: 210 kph (130.4 mph)
Maximum Range: 1,765 km (1,096 miles)
Service ceiling: 10,700 m (35,096 ft)
[SIZE=3]Armament[/SIZE]
- 2 × 7.5 mm MAC 1931 with 600 rounds in the nose of the aircraft
- 2 × 7.5 mm MAC 1931 with 525 rounds per drum
- 2 × 100kg bombs, 4x50kg bombs, or 6x25kg bombs (six mounting points)
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Originally posted by BruceDuncan
It's 'combat range' seems quite large as well, it is carrying a large fuel load, which has its own issues. Now, if this was seen as 'maximum range' it would be much more in line with contemporary aircraft.
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Originally posted by Brockpaine
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Originally posted by BruceDuncan
It's 'combat range' seems quite large as well, it is carrying a large fuel load, which has its own issues. Now, if this was seen as 'maximum range' it would be much more in line with contemporary aircraft.
Ah, I used my template and forgot to change that. Yes, it's max range, not combat range.
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[SIZE=4]Lioré-et-Olivier LeO 400 scout-observation seaplane[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Specifications[/SIZE]
Wingspan: 12.65m (41.5 feet)
Length: 10.915m (35.8 feet)
Height: 5.1m (16.8 feet)
Wing Area: 27.5 m² (296 ft²)
Empty weight: 2,905.5 kg (6,394 lbs)
Max Takeoff Weight: 4,317.5 kg (9,498.5 lbs)
Engine: 1 × Gnome-Rhone 14R (1590hp takeoff)
Crew: 2 (pilot, gunner-observer)
[SIZE=3]Performance[/SIZE]
Max speed: 471.5 kph (292.8 mph)
Cruising speed: 210 kph (130.4 mph)
Maximum Range: 1,765 km (1,096 miles)
Service ceiling: 10,700 m (35,096 ft)
[SIZE=3]Armament[/SIZE]
- 2 × 7.5 mm MAC 1931 with 600 rounds in the nose of the aircraft
- 2 × 7.5 mm MAC 1931 with 525 rounds per drum
- 2 × 100kg bombs, 4x50kg bombs, or 6x25kg bombs (six mounting points)
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Originally posted by Brockpaine
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[SIZE=4]Lioré-et-Olivier LeO 400 scout-observation seaplane[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Specifications[/SIZE]
Wingspan: 12.65m (41.5 feet)
Length: 10.915m (35.8 feet)
Height: 5.1m (16.8 feet)
Wing Area: 27.5 m² (296 ft²)
Empty weight: 2,905.5 kg (6,394 lbs)
Max Takeoff Weight: 4,317.5 kg (9,498.5 lbs)
Engine: 1 × Gnome-Rhone 14R (1590hp takeoff)
Crew: 2 (pilot, gunner-observer)
[SIZE=3]Performance[/SIZE]
Max speed: 471.5 kph (292.8 mph)
Cruising speed: 210 kph (130.4 mph)
Maximum Range: 1,765 km (1,096 miles)
Service ceiling: 10,700 m (35,096 ft)
[SIZE=3]Armament[/SIZE]
- 2 × 7.5 mm MAC 1931 with 600 rounds in the nose of the aircraft
- 2 × 7.5 mm MAC 1931 with 525 rounds per drum
- 2 × 100kg bombs, 4x50kg bombs, or 6x25kg bombs (six mounting points)
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Originally posted by Brockpaine
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Originally posted by BruceDuncan
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- C.2/41: Specification for a twin-engine day and night fighter (bomber destroyer) with a speed of 600kph or better. No French contenders are currently capable of meeting specifications.
Is this, in effect, a request for proposals directed to potential foreign suppliers?
Yes, although I have some options if the planes proposed don't interest me.
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Originally posted by Kaiser Kirk
Don't the Dutch D-XXIII and German FW-187 already exceed that speed and qualify for this category? I'd think the speed mark would be pushed up as a result
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