WesWorld

Hi folks,

the following list was put together by Electric Joe for the warships1 boards and I quote from there:

Quoted

North Carolina: 728x108 (713x10 L/B=6.60
South Dakota: 680x108 (666x10 L/B=6.16
Iowa: 888x108 (859.5x10 L/B=7.96
Montana: 925x121 (890x121) L/B=7.35

Dunkerque: 706x102 (686x102) L/B=6.72
Richelieu: 813x108.5 (793x108.5) L/B=7.31

King George V: 745x103 (700x103) L/B=6.80
Lion: 793x108 (780x10 L/B=7.22
Vanguard: 814x108 (799x10 L/B=7.40

Sovetskii Soyuz: 889x127.5 (856x127.5) L/B=6.71
Kronstadt: 813x103 (787x103) L/B=7.64

Yamato: 863x128 (839x12 L/B=6.55

Scharnhorst: 772x98.5 (753x98.5) L/B=7.64
Bismarck: 820x118 (793x11 L/B=6.72
H-39: 911x121 (872x121) L/B=7.21
O: 814x98.5 (807x98.5) L/B=8.19

Vittorio Veneto: 780x108 (734x10 6.80

How do Wesworld capital ships compare to that list?

Spring* favours long and slender hulls but in general I don´t think we´re off that much...

Regards,

HoOmAn

Here are some examples from the RSAN...

MOCAMBIQUE-class: 230mx33m = 6,97
HERTOG-class: 215mx27m = 7,96
KONING-class: 190mx28,5m = 6,67
SAO TOME-class: 172mx27m = 6,37
SOUTH AFRICA-class: 220mx32m = 6,875

This again seems to proof that spring* is best suited for large combatants.

What do you think?

HoOmAn

Considering that all my BB designs are historical apart from MM Sicilia, i'd say my designs are fairly accurate.

She is 220x30m = 7.33

Spring* doesn't always favour long slender hulls. If you want a heavily armed BB then a high BC and short hull length are best.

6.33 and 6.35 for my ex-RSAN ships. The next one's going to be around 6.5, depending on exactly what variant I go with.

Here's the whole list of Japanese Capital Ships from the Iki of 1888 to the Toyama of 1944 with their dimensions and length/beam ratios (for both Westworld and real world).
The l/b ratios for the earlier ships vary between 4.9 and 6. With Kongo it goes up beyond 6.000 until Kamatari's 8.978 before it dops down to about 7.
Sometimes, the l/b ratios are almost the same for the WW ship and its real world version, and sometimes the difference is slightly greater (same goes for the dimensions).
Looking at Electric Joe's list, I'd say the average l/b ratio would be somewhere around 7.1 so the older ships (before Nagato) are below that while all newer ships (Natato and later) are above this, with the exception of the last two classes (Satsuma and Toyama).


Pre Dreadnought
BB Iki (188 ========> (WW) 350 x 66 feet; l/b = 5.303
======================> (RW) ??? x ?? feet; l/b = ?.???
BB Tango (1893) ======> (WW) 375 x 70 feet; l/b = 5.357
======================> (RW) 367 x 69 feet; l/b = 5.319
BB Okinoshima (1894) => (WW) 300 x 50 feet; l/b = 6.000
======================> (RW) ??? x ?? feet; l/b = ?.???
BB Fuji (1894) =======> (WW) 400 x 75 feet; l/b = 5.333
======================> (RW) 390 x 73 feet; l/b = 5.342
BB Shikishima (1897) => (WW) 438 x 76 feet; l/b = 5.763
======================> (RW) 438x75.5 feet; l/b = 5.801 (length = oa)
BB Mikasa (1897) =====> (WW) 450 x 80 feet; l/b = 5.625
======================> (RW) 415x76.25 feet; l/b = 5.443
BB Suwo (1899) =======> (WW) 424 x 71 feet; l/b = 5.972
======================> (RW) 424x71.5 feet; l/b = 5.930
BB Iwami (1900) ======> (WW) 376 x 76 feet; l/b = 4.947
======================> (RW) 397 x 76 feet; l/b = 5.224 (length = oa)
BC Tsukuba (1905) ====> (WW) 440 x 75 feet; l/b = 5.867
======================> (RW) 475 x 75 feet; l/b = 6.333 (length = oa)
BC Ibuki (1905) ======> (WW) 450 x 75 feet; l/b = 6.000
======================> (RW) 485 x 75 feet; l/b = 6.467 (length = oa)
BC Katori (1907) =====> (WW) 480 x 80 feet; l/b = 6.000
======================> (RW) 456x78.5 feet; l/b = 5.809
Dreadnought
BB Satsuma (1909) ====> (WW) 500 x 95 feet; l/b = 5.263
======================> (RW) 479x83.5 feet; l/b = 5.737
BB Kawachi (1910) ====> (WW) 600 x100 feet; l/b = 6.000
======================> (RW) 489.8x84.3 ft; l/b = 5.810
BC Kongo (1911) ======> (WW) 680 x102 feet; l/b = 6.667
======================> (RW) 630 x 95 feet; l/b = 6.632
BB Fuso (1914) =======> (WW) 710 x108 feet; l/b = 6.574
======================> (RW) 665 x 94 feet; l/b = 7.074 (length = oa)
BB Nagato (1916) =====> (WW) 800 x108 feet; l/b = 7.407
======================> (RW) 700x95.3 feet; l/b = 7.345 (length = oa)
BB Kaga (1920) =======> (WW) 800 x108 feet; l/b = 7.407 *
======================> (RW) 730 x103 feet; l/b = 7.087
Planned**
BB Kii (1925) ========> (WW) 820 x 97 feet; l/b = 8.454
======================> (RW) 820 x101 feet; l/b = 8.119
BC Type 16 (1929) ====> (WW) 770 x 90 feet; l/b = 8.555
======================> (RW) 741.5x98.5 ft; l/b = 7.528 (Scharnhorst)
BB Shizuoka (1935) ===> (WW) 880 x108 feet; l/b = 8.148
======================> (RW) 860 x108.2 ft; l/b = 7.948 (Iowa)
BC Kamatari (1936) ===> (WW) 835 x 93 feet; l/b = 8.978
======================> (RW) 802.5x89 feet; l/b = 9.017 (length = oa; CB64/65)
BB Yamato (1937) =====> (WW) 950 x130 feet; l/b = 7.308
======================> (RW) 830 x127.6 ft; l/b = 6.505
BB Satsuma (1940) ====> (WW) 988 x142 feet; l/b = 6.958
======================> (RW) 830 x127.6 ft; l/b = 6.505 (Super Yamato)
BB Toyama (1944) =====> (WW) 1000x142 feet; l/b = 7.042
======================> (RW) 1082x123.4 ft; l/b = 8.768 (H-44)

* finished as carrier
** "Planned" doesn't mean I will actually build them. I'll see once I get to that year wether I'll build the class or not.
(WW) = Wes World ship data
(RW) = Real World version data
Bold are ships that are in service / under construction
Real World ship data in Italic

Walter