Originally posted by Hood
Well its all novel stuff and WW has lacked novel ships for some time.
It's one reason I didn't just merge the Belgians with the Dutch and pick up 5 free factories. The Dutch have always been in this mode of arming to the teeth as part of preparing for a SATSUMA war, something that only recently has changed. The Belgians- they can have whacko goals just so long as I can come up with the political justification.
So anyhow, after doing some research on the Prince Albert Canal, it's 3.4m-4m deep and I think 60m+ wide. Further, it has some intersections where a larger ship could turn.
Lastly, I'll take the wild leap that a ship that can navigate that can navigate most Belgian/Dutch canals "If I can make it there, I can make it anywhere, NL, NL !" etc etc
Or at least enough to make them usable.
For the Belgians the key consideration would be able to move rather heavy artillery to strategic points- probably pre-surveyed. From that location quick and accurate fire could be taken against enemy locations, captured infrastructure, etc. In the worse case- and this is important- bridges that need to be taken down could be shelled and either destroyed or interdicted.
So, I bring you the
Namur.
Liege is a close copy of
Erie, and
Empress Charlotte is a modified
Vanamoinian, this is expanded from a Dutch OTL
Gruno....but I was really not sure how much beam I'd need to mount a single 240mm howitzer. So I stuck it in the middle of the ship where the beam is as stated, not the ends where it's less.
The OTL Dutch coast defense vessels managed single 240mm guns in turrets at ends of ships on 15.1m, and a twin 21cm turret on 14.3m. Then toss in a half-century in metallurgy advances and design improvements, and I figure I'm in the ballpark.
The Gunboat has 2 unique features
1) The 240mm L35 Howitzer firing a 360lb (163.3kg) shell up to 14.3 miles (23,030m).
2) An spherical rangefinder/radar mount on a mast, armored against splinters. This is simulated by a 6.54 superimposed gun with 0 ammo weight, armored.
The OA length of the 240L35 Howizter (7.14") is roughly 8.4m long, with the turret about 5m in diameter, for an overal length increase of about 12m over a
Gruno Class gunboat of the Dutch.
Where the
Gruno featured waist 12cm guns, the Belgians placed Quad 37mm in Wirblewind tyle shielded quad mounts. Due to the additional 12m of length, a second set of Quads was placed. A series of twin 20mm guns are studded along the infrastructure.
Armor has a splinter belt from freeboard down 1 deck level, then the main belt descends to 1m below sea level.
Namur, Belgium Gunboat laid down 1944
Displacement:
1,522 t light; 1,650 t standard; 1,705 t normal; 1,749 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
209.97 ft / 209.97 ft x 41.01 ft x 10.66 ft (normal load)
64.00 m / 64.00 m x 12.50 m x 3.25 m
Armament:
2 - 4.70" / 119 mm guns in single mounts, 51.91lbs / 23.55kg shells, 1944 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread
1 - 7.14" / 181 mm guns in single mounts, 360.01lbs / 163.30kg shells, 1944 Model
Breech loading gun in a turret (on a barbette)
on centreline amidships
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1944 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on side ends, evenly spread
8 - 0.91" / 23.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.44lbs / 0.20kg shells, 1944 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 4 raised mounts
1 - 6.54" / 166 mm guns in single mounts, 0.00lbs / 0.00kg shells, 1944 Model
Muzzle loading gun in deck mount
on side, 1 raised gun
Weight of broadside 492 lbs / 223 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 300
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 2.95" / 75 mm 155.38 ft / 47.36 m 9.06 ft / 2.76 m
Ends: 0.98" / 25 mm 54.56 ft / 16.63 m 8.01 ft / 2.44 m
Upper: 0.98" / 25 mm 155.38 ft / 47.36 m 8.01 ft / 2.44 m
Main Belt covers 114 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 2.95" / 75 mm 2.36" / 60 mm 2.36" / 60 mm
2nd: 5.91" / 150 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 3.94" / 100 mm
3rd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.98" / 25 mm -
4th: 0.59" / 15 mm - -
5th: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.98" / 25 mm 0.98" / 25 mm
- Armour deck: 2.36" / 60 mm, Conning tower: 2.95" / 75 mm
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Electric motors, 2 shafts, 3,130 shp / 2,335 Kw = 16.00 kts
Range 4,800nm at 8.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 99 tons (25% coal)
Complement:
132 - 172
Cost:
£0.756 million / $3.023 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 57 tons, 3.3 %
Armour: 630 tons, 37.0 %
- Belts: 250 tons, 14.7 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 83 tons, 4.9 %
- Armour Deck: 288 tons, 16.9 %
- Conning Tower: 9 tons, 0.5 %
Machinery: 82 tons, 4.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 654 tons, 38.3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 183 tons, 10.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 5.9 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
4,340 lbs / 1,969 Kg = 83.6 x 4.7 " / 119 mm shells or 1.7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
Metacentric height 1.6 ft / 0.5 m
Roll period: 13.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.51
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.50
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle
Block coefficient: 0.650
Length to Beam Ratio: 5.12 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 14.49 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -12.00 degrees
Stern overhang: -3.28 ft / -1.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Forecastle (13 %): 15.09 ft / 4.60 m (13.78 ft / 4.20 m aft of break)
- Mid (50 %): 13.78 ft / 4.20 m
- Quarterdeck (13 %): 13.78 ft / 4.20 m
- Stern: 13.78 ft / 4.20 m
- Average freeboard: 14.02 ft / 4.27 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 52.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 131.2 %
Waterplane Area: 6,597 Square feet or 613 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 127 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 66 lbs/sq ft or 324 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.86
- Longitudinal: 4.23
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather