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Sunday, April 18th 2004, 10:46pm

And Assuming.............

.......that Denmark will have a C.T. capital ship limit of 120,000 tons, 2 of these would round of the entitlement QUITE nicely!!!!!

Aegir, Denmark Battleship laid down 1927

Displacement:
32,843 t light; 35,000 t standard; 37,368 t normal; 39,113 t full load
Loading submergence 1,530 tons/feet

Dimensions:
720.00 ft x 113.00 ft x 30.00 ft (normal load)
219.46 m x 34.44 m x 9.14 m

Armament:
9 - 15.00" / 381 mm guns (3 Main turrets x 3 guns, 1 superfiring turret)
14 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (7 2nd turrets x 2 guns)
16 - 3.00" / 76 mm AA guns
24 - 0.79" / 20 mm guns
Weight of broadside 16,921 lbs / 7,675 kg

Armour:
Belt 15.00" / 381 mm, upper belt 6.00" / 152 mm, ends unarmoured
Belts cover 76 % of normal area
Main turrets 15.00" / 381 mm, 2nd turrets 1.25" / 32 mm
AA gun shields 0.50" / 13 mm, Light gun shields 0.50" / 13 mm
Armour deck 4.15" / 105 mm, Conning tower 14.00" / 356 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 112,101 shp / 83,627 Kw = 28.00 kts
Range 13,000nm at 12.00 kts

Complement:
1,343 - 1,746

Cost:
£12.442 million / $49.769 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2,115 tons, 5.7 %
Armour: 11,810 tons, 31.6 %
Belts: 3,658 tons, 9.8 %, Armament: 3,702 tons, 9.9 %, Armour Deck: 4,112 tons, 11.0 %
Conning Tower: 339 tons, 0.9 %, Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 3,539 tons, 9.5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 15,279 tons, 40.9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4,525 tons, 12.1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 0.3 %

Metacentric height 6.0

Remarks:
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation & workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.00
Shellfire needed to sink: 44,169 lbs / 20,035 Kg = 26.2 x 15.0 " / 381 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 7.9
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 70 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0.50
Relative quality as seaboat: 1.00

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.536
Sharpness coefficient: 0.40
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 6.59
'Natural speed' for length: 26.83 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
Trim: 70
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 75.2 %
Relative accommodation and working space: 149.5 %
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 104 %
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 0.97
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 211 lbs / square foot or 1,030 Kg / square metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 1.29
(for 19.68 ft / 6.00 m average freeboard, freeboard adjustment -0.04 ft)
Relative composite hull strength: 1.00

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Monday, April 19th 2004, 12:23am

Quite nice

Good speed and armament. You may want to swap some belt armor for some deck armor though. This is the age of long-range, plunging shellfire.

3

Monday, April 19th 2004, 12:27am

duly noted!

HoOmAn

Keeper of the Sacred Block Coefficient

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Monday, April 19th 2004, 2:17pm

No chance to rate her...

There´s no chance to rate her against other designs (historical or WesWorld) as long as she doesn´t feature a torpedo bulkhead of reasonable thickness.

So long,

HoOmAn

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Monday, April 19th 2004, 2:40pm

For a time I had the same thought - skip the TDS, counting on the better compartmentalization to offset it. Although it did result in an over-all less impressive design, it seemed unlikely that the designers would skip it - particularly when some of you guys are already shipping Long Lance variants.

I'll back Hooman on the deck armor issue. I think what you have is plenty, especially when one has to assume that it's thicker over the vital spaces and thinner over the rest.

Makes me wonder if I should have another look at Akbar's deck protection...

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Monday, April 19th 2004, 8:38pm

Now with added "TB".....

.....For that extra "I'm still here!" factor!!!!!

Aegir a, Denmark Battleship laid down 1927

Displacement:
33,997 t light; 36,171 t standard; 38,200 t normal; 39,670 t full load
Loading submergence 1,549 tons/feet

Dimensions:
720.00 ft x 112.00 ft x 30.00 ft (normal load)
219.46 m x 34.14 m x 9.14 m

Armament:
9 - 15.00" / 381 mm guns (3 Main turrets x 3 guns, 1 superfiring turret)
14 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (7 2nd turrets x 2 guns)
16 - 3.00" / 76 mm AA guns
24 - 0.79" / 20 mm guns
Weight of broadside 16,921 lbs / 7,675 kg

Armour:
Belt 14.00" / 356 mm, upper belt 6.00" / 152 mm, ends unarmoured
Belts cover 91 % of normal area
Main turrets 14.00" / 356 mm, 2nd turrets 1.25" / 32 mm
AA gun shields 0.50" / 13 mm, Light gun shields 0.50" / 13 mm
Armour deck 4.15" / 105 mm, Conning tower 14.00" / 356 mm
Torpedo bulkhead 1.25" / 32 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 114,350 shp / 85,305 Kw = 28.00 kts
Range 11,000nm at 12.00 kts

Complement:
1,366 - 1,776

Cost:
£12.625 million / $50.501 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2,115 tons, 5.5 %
Armour: 12,831 tons, 33.6 %
Belts: 4,154 tons, 10.9 %, Armament: 3,523 tons, 9.2 %, Armour Deck: 4,161 tons, 10.9 %
Conning Tower: 344 tons, 0.9 %, Torpedo bulkhead: 649 tons, 1.7 %
Machinery: 3,610 tons, 9.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 15,341 tons, 40.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4,203 tons, 11.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 0.3 %

Metacentric height 5.9

Remarks:
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation & workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.00
Shellfire needed to sink: 38,302 lbs / 17,374 Kg = 22.7 x 15.0 " / 381 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 5.7
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 70 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0.53
Relative quality as seaboat: 1.00

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.553
Sharpness coefficient: 0.40
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 6.54
'Natural speed' for length: 26.83 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
Trim: 70
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 90.3 %
Relative accommodation and working space: 153.0 %
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 103 %
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 0.97
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 209 lbs / square foot or 1,019 Kg / square metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 1.26
(for 20.25 ft / 6.17 m average freeboard, freeboard adjustment 0.45 ft)
Relative composite hull strength: 1.00

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Monday, April 19th 2004, 8:42pm

Looks good to me, apart from that "10.0 torps to sink" bit. Can you adjust the stability away from 1.0, to see what happens?

8

Tuesday, April 20th 2004, 1:21am

It drops to about 6!
but the stability goes to pot!

9

Tuesday, April 20th 2004, 8:53am

I'd actually manually edit that, after all we are dealing with a bug.

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Tuesday, April 20th 2004, 5:53pm

Done.....see above!!