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[SIZE=4]SAE Quarterly Reports[/SIZE]

No. 88 – October to December 1942


[SIZE=3]Transfers/Notes:[/SIZE]

Final payment from China (550ts) for new build LCDS Type 42


[SIZE=3]Factories:[/SIZE]

27 factories total can be used.

Fixed factories

1 factory fixed to produce infrastructure points in 1942.

Flexible factories

26,000ts of material produced this quarter (26 factories).

0 factories will produce infrastructure points this quarter.

Material handling

180ts of material transferred from Q3.

0ts of material recovered from scrap yard.

25,875ts of material used this quarter.

305ts of material transferred to Q1/43.

Infrastructure points used this quarter

0,2pts put into an update of the Type 3 dock in Daressalam to Type 4 for a total of 0,8pts at the end of Q4/42


[SIZE=3]Ships:[/SIZE]

Minor vessels

Completed Units

28x UJ26-class ASW launch
31x UJ30-class ASW launch
24x UJ35-class ASW launch

30x R28-class motor launch
23x R31-class motor launch
8x R37-class motor launch
3x R42-class motor launch

26x S34-class motor torpedo boat
12x S36-class motor torpedo boat
12x S40-class motor torpedo boat

8x Tree-class minesweeper (Type 16)
13x Bush-class minesweeper (Type 21)
10x Cactus-class minesweeper (Type 28)
8x Flower-class minesweeper (Type 35)
12x Coastal-class minesweeper (Type 37)
8x Seychelles-class minesweeper (Type 38)
6x Coastal-class minesweeper (Type 41)

4x Circe-class sloops
4x Polar II-class sloops

8x River-class frigate (Type 25)
4x Lake-class frigate (Type 35)
6x Mountain-class frigate (Type 40)

8x Planet-class light destroyer (Type 29)
8x Bird-class light destroyer (Type 35)

5x Guard-class patrol crafts
1x Lorelei-class coast guard cutter

4x Garcia-class river gun boat (Type 35)
2x General-class river gun boat (Type 37)

2x Argonaut-class river monitors (Type 36)

On Trials

2x River-class frigate
- Zambesi running trials until December 42
- Rovuna running trials until December 42

3x Coastal-class mine sweeper Type 41
- MSC41-7 running trials until October 42
- MSC41-8 running trials until November 42
- MSC41-9 running trials until December 42

1x RGB42A-class river gun boat
- General Zartenar running trials until November 42

3x R42-class motor launch
- R84 running trials until October 42
- R85 running trials until November 42
- R86 running trials until December 42

3x UJ42-class ASW launch
- UJ89 running trials until October 42
- UJ90 running trials until November 42
- UJ91 running trials until December 42

Ordered Units

2x Mountain-class frigate (11 month á 69ts material required per unit)
- F40-7 Devil’s Peak laid down in Durban on a Type 1 slip in July 42, completed in May 43
- F40-8 Tygerberg laid down in Cape Town on a Type 2 slip in July 42, completed in May 43

4x Centaur-class mine sweeper (10 month and 537ts material required per unit)
- MS42-1 Cheiron laid down in Douala on a Type 0 slip in January 42, completed in October 42
- MS42-2 Nessos laid down in Douala on a Type 1 slip in April 42, completed in January 43
- MS42-5 Diktys laid down in Majunga on a Type 1 slip in July 42, completed in April 43
- MS42-3 Pholos laid down in Douala on a Type 0 slip in November 42, completed in August 43

3x Coastal-class mine sweeper Type 41 (1 month and 198ts material required per unit)
- MSC41-10 laid down in Montevideo in October 42, completed in October 42
- MSC41-11 laid down in Montevideo in November 42, completed in November 42
- MSC41-12 laid down in Montevideo in December 42, completed in December 42

1x RGB42A-class river gun boat (5 month a 100ts material required per unit)
- General Mazwei laid down in Buenos Aires in September 42, completed in January 43

3x R42-class motor launch (1 month and 124ts material required per unit)
- R87 laid down in Lüderitz in October 42, completed in October 42
- R88 laid down in Lüderitz in November 42, completed in November 42
- R89 laid down in Lüderitz in December 42, completed in December 42

3x UJ42-class ASW launch (1 month and 197ts material required per unit)
- UJ92 laid down in Rio Grande in October 42, completed in October 42
- UJ93 laid down in Rio Grande in November 42, completed in November 42
- UJ94 laid down in Rio Grande in December 42, completed in December 42

Rebuilds/Refits/Repairs

2x FR25-class frigate (5 month and 145ts of material required)
- Lurio entering the navy yard in Port Elizabeth in October 42. The frigate will stay in the yard until December 42
- Messalo entering the navy yard in Port Elizabeth in October 42. The frigate will stay in the yard until December 42

Scrapping

6x R28-class motor launch (1 month total)
- R1 – R6 scrapping in December 42 – 39ts received from hull for Q2/1943

6x UJ26-class ASW launch (1 month total)
- UJ1 – UJ3, UJ5, UJ7, UJ10 scrapping in December 42 – 82ts received from hull for Q2/1943


Destroyers

Completed Units

4x Hound-class torpedoboat (Type 26)
8x Reptile-class torpedoboat (Type 35)

8x Nymph-class destroyer (Type 21)
8x Nymph-class destroyer (Type 23)
16x Nymph-class destroyer (Type 27)
16x Nymph-class destroyer (Type 30)
8x Snake-class destroyer (Type 32)
8x Fish-class destroyer (Type 38)

8x Weapon-class large destroyer (Type 28)
7x Weapon-class large destroyer (Type 32)
4x Weapon-class large destroyer (Type 36)

On Trials

None

Ordered Units

None

Rebuilds/Refits/Repairs

None

Scrapping

None


Fleet Cruisers

Completed Units

5x Santa Fe-class light cruiser (Type 16)
4x Yaounde-class light cruiser (Type 19)
4x Libreville-class light cruiser (Type 21)
4x Rosario-class light cruiser (Type 22)
0x Aurora-class light cruiser (Type 24)
2x Arion-class light cruiser (Type 27)
3x Douala II-class light cruiser (Type 29)
2x Ajax-class light cruiser (Type 31)
1x Antenor-class light cruiser (Type 33)
2x Nampula II-class light cruiser (Type 36)
2x Charybdis-class light cruiser (Type 38)

2x Daphne-class anti aircraft cruiser (Type 34)
2x Danae-class anti aircraft cruiser (Type 36)

4x Fenris-class destroyer leader (Type 30)
2x Fasold-class destroyer leader (Type 31)
2x Diana-class destroyer leader (Type 34)

1x Lightning-class mine cruiser
1x Hedgehog-class mine cruiser

On Trials

2x CL24-class light cruiser
- Bellona running trials until December 42
- Aurora running trials until December 42

Ordered Units

None

Repair/Refits/Rebuilds

2x CL24-class light cruiser (5 month and 395ts of material required)
- Dira entering a Type 4 dock in Durban in August. Leaving the dock in September, the cruiser will stay in the yard until December 42
- Carmenta entering a Type 2 dock in Durban in August. Leaving the dock in September, the cruiser will stay in the yard until December 42

Scrapping

None


Heavy Cruisers

Completed Units

4x Cape-class (Type 23)
1x Cape-class (Type 26)
1x Dragon-class (Type 29)
2x Hero-class (Type 33)
2x Vengeance-class

On Trials

None

Ordered Units

None

Repair/Refits

1x CA26-class heavy cruiser (5 month and 500ts of material required)
- Cape Infante entering a Type 3 dock in Douala in December. Leaving the dock in January, the cruiser will stay in the yard until April 43

Scrapping

None


Capital Units

Completed Units

2x Mauritius-class
2x South Africa-class
0x Mocambique-class
2x Ophion-class
2x Triumph-class
2x Imperator-class
2x Radiance-class
2x Monarch-class
1x Thunderer-class

On Trials

1x BB37A-III-class battleship
- Superb running trials until November 42

1x Mocambique-class battlecruiser
- Mocambique running trials until December 42

Ordered Units

2x BB37A-IV-class battleship (57 month á 835ts material required per unit)
- Implacable laid down in Durban on a Type 4 slip in April 38, completed in December 42
- Indomitable laid down in Port Elizabeth on a Type 4 slip in November 38, completed in July 43

Rebuilds/Refits

1x Mocambique-class battlecruiser (23 month and 783ts of material required)
- Rhodesia entering a Type 4 dock in Port Louis in December 40. Leaving the dock in September 41, the battlecruiser will stay in the yard until October 42

Scrapping

None


Coastal Defence Units

Completed Units

1x Nagelring-class coastal defence ship
1x Tyrfing-class coastal defence ship
1x Gungnir-class coastal defence ship
1x Excalibur-class coastal defence ship

1x LCDS-class
2x LCDS-2-class

On Trials

None

Ordered Units

1x LCDS-42-class light CDS for China (11 month á 180ts material required per unit)
- Unnamend laid down in Durban on a Type 2 slip in January 42, completed in November 42

Rebuilds/Refits

None


Carriers

Completed Units

0x Forge-class fleet carrier (Type 26)
2x TvD-class fleet carrier (Type 34)
1x Asgard-class fleet carrier (Type 37)

2x Anvil-class light fleet carrier (Type 30)
1x Endress-class light fleet carrier (Type 36)

1x Bölthorn-class floatplane carrier
2x Thjazi-class floatplane carrier
3x Unicorn-class floatplane carrier
2x Wyvern-class floatplane carrier

On Trials

None

Ordered Units

1x CV40B-class fleet carrier (33 month á 726ts material required per unit)
- Helspanth laid down in Durban on a Type 3 slip in April 40, completed in December 42

2x CV42C-class fleet carrier (40 month á 771ts material required per unit)
- Bahamuth laid down in Durban on a Type 4 slip in March 42, completed in June 45
- Marduk laid down in Durban on a Type 4 slip in July 42, completed in October 45

Rebuilds/Refits

1x Forge-class fleet carrier (15 month and 666ts of material required)
- Forge entering a Type 4 dock in Montevideo in January 42. Leaving the dock in June 42, the fleet carrier will stay in the yard until March 43


Class A Submarines

Completed Units

3x J-class submarine
2x L-class submarine
8x M-class submarine
8x O-class submarine
2x Q-class submarine

On Trials

None

Ordered Units

5x T-class fleet submarine (10 month á 95ts material required per unit)
- T7 laid down on Prince Eduard Islands on a Type 0 slip in January 42, completed in October 42
- T5 laid down in Daressalam on a Type 0 slip in April 42, completed in January 43
- T1 laid down in Durban on a Type 0 slip in July 42, completed in April 43
- T2 laid down in Durban on a Type 0 slip in July 42, completed in April 43
- T8 laid down on Prince Eduard Islands on a Type 0 slip in November 42, completed in August 43

Repairs/Rebuilds/Refits

None

Scrapping

3x F-class submarine (4 month total, 1 month in Type 1 dock)
- F14 scrapping in Durban starting in January, finished in April 42 – 120ts received from hull for Q4/1942
- F15 scrapping in Durban starting in May, finished in August 42 – 120ts received from hull for Q1/1943
- F16 scrapping in Durban starting in September, finished in December 42 – 120ts received from hull for Q3/1943


Class B Submarines

Completed Units

7x K-class submarine
8x N-class submarine
7x P-class mine submarine

On Trials

1x P-class coastal mine submarine
- P7 running trials until November 42

1x R-class coastal mine submarine
- R1 running trials until December 42

2x K-class coastal mine submarine
- K4 running trials until November 42
- K11 running trials until November 42

Ordered Units

2x R-class coastal submarine (5 month á 96ts material required per unit)
- R2 laid down in Cape Town on a Type 1 slip in September 42, completed in January 43
- R3 laid down in Cape Town on a Type 0 slip in October 42, completed in February 43

Repairs/Rebuilds/Refits

4x K-class submarine (2 month a 57ts of material required)
- K5 entering the navy yard in Montevideo in September 42. The submarine will stay in the yard until October 42
- K14 entering the navy yard in Montevideo in September 42. The submarine will stay in the yard until October 42
- K6 entering the navy yard in Montevideo in November 42. The submarine will stay in the yard until December 42
- K15 entering the navy yard in Montevideo in November 42. The submarine will stay in the yard until December 42

Scrapping

None


Landing Vehicles

Completed Units

1x LSC38-class landing ship (ex-AV22)
2x LSC39-class landing ship (ex-TD19)
2x LSA38-class landing ship
4x LST38-class landing ship
8x LSI38-class landing ship

On Trials

None

Ordered Units

None

Repairs/Rebuilds/Refits

None

Scrapping

None


Non-combatants

Completed Units

1x Bay-class tender (Type 04)
2x Bay-class tender (Type 05)
2x Bay-class tender (Type 08)
2x Bay-class tender (Type 11)
1x Bay-class tender (Type 13)
2x Bay-class tender (Type 16)
2x Bay-class tender (Type 22)
0x Bay-class tender (Type 25)
1x Bay-class tender (Type 29)
2x Bay-class tender (Type 35)

1x FV32-class fleet support ship
2x FV36-class fleet support ship

On Trials

1x TD22-class tender
- Saldanna Bay running trials until January 43

1x TD25-class tender
- Alexander Bay running trials until January 43

Ordered Units

2x TD42-class tender (14 month á 307ts material required per unit)
- TD42-1 laid down in Mar del Plata on a Type 1 slip in January 42, completed in February 43
- TD42-2 laid down in St. Helena on a Type 1 slip in January 42, completed in February 43

Repairs/Rebuilds/Refits

1x TD25-class tender (3 month a 178ts of material required)
- Lamperts Bay entering the navy yard in Buenos Aires in November 42. The tender will stay in the yard until January 43

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At the end of this quarter the RSAN consists of (units in service only, units undergoing refits are not listed):

83 ASW launches
64 motor launches
50 motor torpedo boats
65 minesweepers
48 small patrol crafts
6 river gunboat
2 river monitors
95 TB/DD/DLs of less than 2,000ts
43 fleet cruisers
10 heavy cruisers
15 capital units
7 costal defence ships
6 aircraft carrier
8 floatplane carrier
23 submarines category a
22 submarines category b
17 landing vehicles
16 armed tenders
3 fleet support ship

plus numerous auxiliary vessels of all kind.

As the RSAN's Q4 report is published, the Naval Gazette will hold an article that provides some more details:

With Q4/42 the RSAN's second class of heavy cruisers, the Cape Infante class, enters the yards for life extension and refit. A new secondary/AA battery will be installed including rearrangement of parts of the superstructure and all torpedos removed. The magazines formerly used to store torpedo warheads will be used to increase the number of main gun shells slightly (+20 per barrel). Modifications to armor are limited to the removal of the light CT armor. Overall, the modifications will buy enough space and weight to increase misc weight by 25 tons, allowing the installation of the latest RFC and radar equipment. The machinery department will only get a major overhault but no new boilers or turbines will be installed. Speed and range remain the same. Finally, the ships forward stem is raised by 20cm due to additional plates attached to the bow in order to decrease the water taken over in heavy seas.

Quoted

Originally posted by HoOmAn
Overall, the modifications will buy enough space and weight to increase misc weight by 25 tons, allowing the installation of the latest RFC and radar equipment.

Very interesting. I've not seen prior comments about RSAN ships possessing radar; I presume this one of the first South African sets to go to sea. Was it acquired from the Dutch or Indians, or developed locally?

Radar on RSAN units is nothing new. I remember to have it mentioned before. It is a domestic development, initiated by some accidental results with point-to-point radio (see my news as of 22-May-34 and 26-September-34 for example). You may also check drawings to see older modifications included radar too.

Despite domestic developments, there also has been support from the Dutch for all kind of thinks, including electronics, remote fire control, Hazemeyer mounts etc.

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Originally posted by HoOmAn
Radar on RSAN units is nothing new. I remember to have it mentioned before. It is a domestic development, initiated by some accidental results with point-to-point radio (see my news as of 22-May-34 and 26-September-34 for example). You may also check drawings to see older modifications included radar too.

Ah. I wasn't here when 1934 news came out, so I didn't recall that. I've primarily been looking at encyclopedia posts, which haven't made mention of it at all; so I made some assumptions and a conclusion.

Since the encyclopedia doesn't list them, which RSAN units have radar already installed?

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Originally posted by Brockpaine
Since the encyclopedia doesn't list them, which RSAN units have radar already installed?

The RSAN fields all kind of radars that are required to be en par with the other big navies.

Quoted

Originally posted by HoOmAn

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Originally posted by Brockpaine
Since the encyclopedia doesn't list them, which RSAN units have radar already installed?

The RSAN fields all kind of radars that are required to be en par with the other big navies.

Yes, but which ships have them installed?

Sorry, I have no list at hand. But I expect all units DD size up that have been newly built, refitted or rebuilt since 1939 to have some kind of radar aboard. Some larger units had them earlier most likely. RSAN units smaller than DDs size received theirs later en mass. By 1942 no units newly built, refitted or rebuilt will leave the yards without radar.

How advanced the sets installed are depends on the individual unit or class.

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Originally posted by HoOmAn
Sorry, I have no list at hand. But I expect all units DD size up that have been newly built, refitted or rebuilt since 1939 to have some kind of radar aboard. Some larger units had them earlier most likely. RSAN units smaller than DDs size received theirs later en mass. By 1942 no units newly built, refitted or rebuilt will leave the yards without radar.

How advanced the sets installed are depends on the individual unit or class.

I was just a bit skittish when you implied that so many RSAN units had radar, particularly as there has never been any specific mention in the encyclopedia of any South African ships having such capabilities, and which ships had radar. I know you're pretty busy with moving, but would it be possible at some future point for the classes with radar to have some remark to that affect in the encyclopedia?

I doubt I will spend much time on the issue and I am not interested in becoming a radar expert, but my drawings are a pretty good indicator. But don't take for granted there is no radar just because I missed such a tiny detail during the drawing process.

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Originally posted by HoOmAn
I doubt I will spend much time on the issue and I am not interested in becoming a radar expert, but my drawings are a pretty good indicator. But don't take for granted there is no radar just because I missed such a tiny detail during the drawing process.

You don't need to become an expert on radar to note on a Springsharp that it's present. But I'll have a look at your drawings and see if I can't compile a list of what ships have them.

Whatever fits your needs..... *shrug*

For myself I will define the details when I need them.

Quoted

Originally posted by HoOmAn
For myself I will define the details when I need them.

With airplanes and land forces, that's fine. But I'm not so fine with refusing to provide such critical details of a warship's design as which ones have radar. Shin and I have rapped players' knuckles before for sloppy and incomplete Springsharps and encyclopedias, and I think we administrators should set a good example for the rest of the players. We all know as players that radar adds quite a lot of capability to a warship, and so I think our fellow players deserve to know that an RSAN ship has a radar set - even if the specifics remain undefined.

I myself try to provide as much information as possible; one of my college professors called it the "truck principle". If I step out of my house tomorrow and get killed by a truck, then is the person who comes along after me going to be able to figure out what I did?