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--It is accepted that some designs are going to be modified in order to make them work under the new factory numbers.
--The current number of Capital units (Battleships, large cruisers, and large carriers) will not be exceeded.
--Wherever possible, RA's designs will be used as templates.
--Historical weapons will take precedence over ahistorical ones, except in the situation where the weapon set a precedent that was then broadly used.
--Both designs and overall plan will be publicly reviewable before being finalized and accepted.
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Capital Units: I think the pace of building capital units as occurred under RA is not going to quite work under the current factory numbers. My thought is to have two building at a time, possibly with some overlap, and maybe one in the yard undergoing work. The current units for the most part form good templates, but I think the Tripolitania (and by extension my Leonardo de Vinci) class and the Andrea Doria Class might be to large. The templates going forward would be the current Littorio and the Guiseppe Garibaldi.
Battleships: The only two that carry over into the current era that were built at this time are the Cristoforto Columbo and Lepanto. I plan on giving both similar reconstructions to those which they received under RA, but the reconstruction of Lepanto might happen later tonnage dependent. For new construction, I am planing on two Littorio-templated ships in 1934 and two more in 1938-39. There might be a third pair in some stage of construction in Q2/45 with the intent of replacing the two oldest ships (as the current LdV class is meant to do).
Carriers: The Guiseppe Garibaldi class is the template here, the Doria's are to big IMO. One pair in 1936, another in 1940-41. The Europa class might see an earlier rebuild. The Francesco Morosini gets pulled out of service earlier. The Pisa-class conversions do not happen, but I might do 2-4 smaller CVs in their stead. See the Guiseppe Cie for what those might look like.
Armored Cruisers: The Zara Class gets a different rebuild, maybe earlier. The Ceaser class is constructed on schedule, not sure what my plan with them is after that. Im on the fence about building the Saint Class. If I don't build them, Im likely to only have the Zara and Ceaser. The new Reginia Elena might get built still. Would depend on what else needs doing. I sort of like having one of (if not the) fastest capital ships in WW.
Light Cruisers: I rather like the Sant' Achilleo class, and think it would serve as the template. The later classes lacking anything above a 47mm AA gun (sans the DP 152mm that shows up halfway through the run) is somewhat insane. All classes would still be in pairs of two. Not sure if I would make the leap to the Lombardia or not.
Destroyers: Outside of the Soldati class, I am rather satisfied with the current crop up through the Rosolino Pilo. The designs after that I would like to rework to be a better bridge between the Pilo's and my Venezia class. The other option I could work with would be to continue the tradition of "Greyhounds" set up by the Ruggiero. I know this would be a more major rework, but given that the Italians differentiated Destroyers and Escorts, I think the leap to "contre-torpilleurs" is a possibility.
Escorts: Diana and Gabbiano would form the templates here. That gives a large (Frigate) and small (Corvette) type.
Subs: I'm actually rather happy with all of the classes. Also I know the sims are good for all the classes that would need to be built. Likely not to go for quite the spam of coastal boats that RA did. Would likely even out the number of classes.
MAS: Sanity gets put in place here. Likely to be historical types.
Auxiliaries: I would want to keep some of the odd ducks here, like the heavy lift ship. Maybe minor effort to putting up some logistics capability before the AEGIS withdrawal, with the sharp focus on it afterwards (as happened in my plans before all this).
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New Construction
Corazzata 1934 Battleship 40,000 2
Corazzata 1938 Battleship 40,000 2
Corazzata 1942 Battleship 40,000 2
Portaerei 1936 Carrier 30,000 2
Portaerei 1940 Carrier 30,000 2
Incrociatori Corazzati 1933 Armored Cruiser 13,000 3
Regina Elena Armored Cruiser 30,000 1
Incrociatori 1932 Light Cruiser 8,000 2
Incrociatori 1934 Light Cruiser 8,000 2
Incrociatori 1936 Light Cruiser 8,000 2
Incrociatori 1938 Light Cruiser 10,000 2
Incrociatori 1940 Light Cruiser 10,000 2
Incrociatori 1942 Light Cruiser 10,000 2
Incrociatori 1944 Light Cruiser 10,000 2
Cacciatorpedinieri 1933 Destroyer 2500 4
Cacciatorpedinieri 1935 Destroyer 2500 4
Cacciatorpedinieri 1937 Destroyer 2500 4
Cacciatorpedinieri 1939 Destroyer 2500 12
Cacciatorpedinieri 1941 Destroyer 2500 12
Cacciatorpedinieri 1943 Destroyer 2500 12
Sottomarino 1930 Fleet Sub 2000 6
Sottomarino 1935 Fleet Sub 2000 6
Sottomarino 1937 Fleet Sub 1600 6
Sottomarino 1942 Fleet Sub 1600 6
Sottomarino 1931 Coastal Sub 500 18
Sottomarino 1933 (Perla) Coastal Sub 423 24
Sottomarino 1945 (Y) Coastal Sub 320 8
Sottomarino H2O2 Coastal Sub 320 2
MAS 1929 MTB 14 48
MAS 1934 MTB 40 24
MAS 1937 MTB 24 48
MAS 1939 MTB 27 48
MAS 1941 MTB 30 48
Fregate 1929 Frigate 1500 4
Fregate 1931 Frigate 1500 4
Fregate 1933 Frigate 1500 4
Fregate 1938 Frigate 1500 18
Corvette 1932 Corvette 600 8
Corvette 1935 Corvette 600 20
Corvette 1937 Corvette 600 18
Ercole Auxiliary 9006 1
Brute Auxiliary 1899 1
FRV-L Auxiliary 7446 3
FRV-S Auxiliary 2195 5
Refits and Reconstructions (Tonnage based off current rebuilds)
Aquila 12010 2 24020
Francesco Ferrucio 3213 1 3213
Sant' Achilleo 3996 2 7992
Incrociatori 1934 4000 2 8000
Cristoforto Columbo 16042 1 16042
Lepanto 20837 1 20837
Incrociatori 1932 4000 2 8000
Incrociatori Corazzati 1933 6660 3 19980
Francesco Ferrucio 3214 1 3214
Under Construction in Q3/45 (Tonnage based off % completed)
Sottomarino 1945 (X) Fleet Sub 1183 4 4732
FRV-S Auxiliary 1096 5 5480
A preliminary version of such a spreadsheet can be seen here. The sheets labeled Naval Construction 19XX-19YY currently only have the units that are fixed based on the requirements above. As designs get finalized, I will add them into the plan. The format is identical to the sheets I have been using to make the current Italian reports.
It might be handy if you could briefly tabulate the differences per type of warship between what RA spent and what Italy could actually afford. It might help having this overview.
It might be handy if you could briefly tabulate the differences per type of warship between what RA spent and what Italy could actually afford. It might help having this overview.
The issue with that is in order to get a truly accurate picture, I effectively need to totally redo the reports. Anything beyond a quarterly breakdown is not going to work.
unless RA's sim was dodgy to begin with.
I want to see what others thoughts are on the offset angled catapult before I remove it. I agree that its usefulness is limited.
Do you think 11m (the four decks in the for'castle set this hight) or is that overkill?
I'm still unsure what the exercise is here, is it to redesign ships that need to be modified to fit in with Italy's corrected tonnage...
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