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Friday, September 18th 2009, 3:42pm

Peru Quechua lightcruiser cruiser

Displacement:
7,851 t light; 8,158 t standard; 8,800 t normal; 9,314 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
566.46 ft / 557.00 ft x 64.00 ft x 18.00 ft (normal load)
172.66 m / 169.77 m x 19.51 m x 5.49 m

Armament:
9 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns (3x3 guns), 102.98lbs / 46.71kg shells, 1938 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
8 - 4.13" / 105 mm guns (4x2 guns), 35.32lbs / 16.02kg shells, 1938 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
8 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1938 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 1,225 lbs / 556 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 180
12 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 4.00" / 102 mm 362.05 ft / 110.35 m 9.60 ft / 2.93 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 4.00" / 102 mm 3.00" / 76 mm 4.00" / 102 mm
2nd: 1.18" / 30 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm
3rd: 0.59" / 15 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -

- Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 4.00" / 102 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 69,080 shp / 51,534 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 6,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1,156 tons

Complement:
453 - 590

Cost:
£3.766 million / $15.066 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 153 tons, 1.7 %
Armour: 1,820 tons, 20.7 %
- Belts: 585 tons, 6.6 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 315 tons, 3.6 %
- Armour Deck: 883 tons, 10.0 %
- Conning Tower: 37 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 1,892 tons, 21.5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,837 tons, 43.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 949 tons, 10.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 150 tons, 1.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
14,420 lbs / 6,541 Kg = 140.0 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 1.9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
Metacentric height 3.3 ft / 1.0 m
Roll period: 14.8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.30
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.09

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.480
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.70 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27.30 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 55
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26.00 ft / 7.92 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 23.00 ft / 7.01 m
- Mid (50 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Stern: 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Average freeboard: 21.29 ft / 6.49 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 86.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 162.0 %
Waterplane Area: 24,249 Square feet or 2,253 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 126 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 105 lbs/sq ft or 511 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.67
- Overall: 1.02
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Drawing coming soon (Dutch-Italian-German style)

(SpringSharp design by Brockpaine)

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Friday, September 18th 2009, 3:58pm

This was a quick design I drew up for Alvama as an example of a 9x6" light cruiser to improve the Peruvian Navy. I did leave a bit of hull strength left over for the addition of more AA guns, by the way. All gun calibers are already in Peruvian service (I expect the 150mm guns to be German, like the guns used on the Independencia-class DDs but in triple mounts...)

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Friday, September 18th 2009, 6:01pm

It's an ok design but I think something a bit bigger is needed. All the Chilean cruisers are pretty big and powerful. I think 12 x 150mm guns are needed at least. 16 x 150mm as on the latest Italian cruisers are nice...


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Friday, September 18th 2009, 6:01pm

Hey, I have a cruiser design like that!

...I called it a heavy cruiser, though. :P

Edit: Found it!

Quoted

[SIZE=3]Cerro Fitzroy-class, Chilean Heavy Cruiser laid down 1938[/SIZE]

Displacement:
11,000 t light; 11,509 t standard; 13,532 t normal; 15,150 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
647.13 ft / 639.76 ft x 65.62 ft x 21.82 ft (normal load)
197.24 m / 195.00 m x 20.00 m x 6.65 m

Armament:
16 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns (4x4 guns), 102.98lbs / 46.71kg shells, 1938 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (4x2 guns), 67.03lbs / 30.41kg shells, 1938 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
8 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 5.65lbs / 2.56kg shells, 1938 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1938 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
16 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1938 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 2,249 lbs / 1,020 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 180
12 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5.91" / 150 mm 357.61 ft / 109.00 m 9.02 ft / 2.75 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 86 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 6.50" / 165 mm 3.15" / 80 mm 5.91" / 150 mm
2nd: 0.59" / 15 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 5.12" / 130 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 98,075 shp / 73,164 Kw = 33.00 kts
Range 15,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,641 tons

Complement:
626 - 815

Cost:
£5.620 million / $22.479 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 281 tons, 2.1 %
Armour: 2,546 tons, 18.8 %
- Belts: 815 tons, 6.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 592 tons, 4.4 %
- Armour Deck: 1,076 tons, 8.0 %
- Conning Tower: 63 tons, 0.5 %
Machinery: 2,686 tons, 19.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,367 tons, 39.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,532 tons, 18.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 120 tons, 0.9 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
19,873 lbs / 9,014 Kg = 193.0 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 2.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
Metacentric height 3.3 ft / 1.0 m
Roll period: 15.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.47
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.08

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.517
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.75 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 28.86 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 9.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 2.46 ft / 0.75 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 30.97 ft / 9.44 m
- Forecastle (17 %): 20.64 ft / 6.29 m
- Mid (50 %): 20.64 ft / 6.29 m
- Quarterdeck (19 %): 20.64 ft / 6.29 m
- Stern: 23.75 ft / 7.24 m
- Average freeboard: 21.64 ft / 6.60 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 82.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 149.1 %
Waterplane Area: 29,558 Square feet or 2,746 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 132 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 117 lbs/sq ft or 572 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.99
- Longitudinal: 1.37
- Overall: 1.03
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent


Old design, I'd probably switch out the 130mm DP and 57mm AA for either a load of 3" or some 110mm DP guns...

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Friday, September 18th 2009, 6:18pm

Quoted

Old design, I'd probably switch out the 130mm DP and 57mm AA for either a load of 3" or some 110mm DP guns...


The Italian design is in need of a little updating as well. Most likely ditch the catapult and hangar and go with twin funnels instead of the current trunked arrangement. Probably a sprinkling of 76/62 singles instead of the 100/47 guns as well. I'll have to have a go at drawing something up.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Red Admiral" (Sep 18th 2009, 6:19pm)


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Friday, September 18th 2009, 6:22pm

If Peru's interested in larger CL designs, a possibility would be an updated version of the General Belgrano design that Germany built for Argentina. See this thread http://wesworld.jk-clan.de/thread.php?threadid=3623&sid= for details on the original ships.

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Friday, September 18th 2009, 6:54pm

C'mon guys! If you sell Peru bigger cruisers, then I gotta build even bigger ones! I was hoping to keep the cost of the Magellanes-class below 9,500 tons... :(

Or I suppose I could build another quartet... :P

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Friday, September 18th 2009, 6:54pm

Hmm....

I want to have something in the style of other AEGIS countries. I wanted to Have Dutch/Italian style. I'd love that vessel of Red-Admiral. I need to be updated if I look Chile's cruisers :D

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Friday, September 18th 2009, 6:57pm

The Iberians don't have much in the way of larger light cruisers, if you're going to go Italian (for commonality with allies, as opposed to current equipment), then the new Italian cruisers make sense.

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Saturday, September 19th 2009, 5:09pm



How about this? Added new FC directors and changed the AA armament to 76/62 singles and 37/54 quadruple mountings.

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Saturday, September 19th 2009, 5:31pm

Looks Great redadmiral! If I make the Peruvian cruiser I really sure this will be a good insperation!! :D

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Saturday, September 19th 2009, 6:00pm

Can I start with a drawing for next week?

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Sunday, September 20th 2009, 3:21pm

Modfied the hull strength for more speed
Displacement:
7,851 t light; 8,158 t standard; 8,800 t normal; 9,314 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
566.46 ft / 557.00 ft x 64.00 ft x 18.00 ft (normal load)
172.66 m / 169.77 m x 19.51 m x 5.49 m

Armament:
9 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns (3x3 guns), 102.98lbs / 46.71kg shells, 1938 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
8 - 4.13" / 105 mm guns (4x2 guns), 35.32lbs / 16.02kg shells, 1938 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
8 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1938 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 1,225 lbs / 556 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 180
12 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 4.00" / 102 mm 362.05 ft / 110.35 m 9.60 ft / 2.93 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 4.00" / 102 mm 3.00" / 76 mm 4.00" / 102 mm
2nd: 1.18" / 30 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm
3rd: 0.59" / 15 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -

- Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 4.00" / 102 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 69,080 shp / 51,534 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 6,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1,156 tons

Complement:
453 - 590

Cost:
£3.766 million / $15.066 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 153 tons, 1.7 %
Armour: 1,820 tons, 20.7 %
- Belts: 585 tons, 6.6 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 315 tons, 3.6 %
- Armour Deck: 883 tons, 10.0 %
- Conning Tower: 37 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 1,892 tons, 21.5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,837 tons, 43.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 949 tons, 10.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 150 tons, 1.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
14,420 lbs / 6,541 Kg = 140.0 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 1.9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
Metacentric height 3.3 ft / 1.0 m
Roll period: 14.8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.30
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.09

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.480
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.70 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27.30 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 55
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26.00 ft / 7.92 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 23.00 ft / 7.01 m
- Mid (50 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Stern: 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Average freeboard: 21.29 ft / 6.49 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 86.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 162.0 %
Waterplane Area: 24,249 Square feet or 2,253 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 126 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 105 lbs/sq ft or 511 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.67
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Drawing coming soon (Dutch-Italian-German style)

(SpringSharp design by Brockpaine, mod by me)

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "ALVAMA" (Sep 20th 2009, 3:25pm)


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Sunday, September 20th 2009, 6:29pm

I still think a larger ship would be a better idea in order to effectively combat other similar ships. This is cheaper, but not as good. With a limited budget I think that fewer, but better, ships are the better option.

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Sunday, September 20th 2009, 7:30pm

Honestly, I'll have to (reluctantly) agree with Red Admiral on this one. Reluctantly... because it's my ships which are the most notable possible enemies for a Peruvian CL. If Peru builds a bigger CL than 12x6", that stands a chance of throwing my own planned Magellanes-class to the dogs.

Let's look at the most likely regional opposition:

Quoted

Maunga Terevaka-class CL (Chile) - 1 ship
8x6" guns, 32 knots, 3" belt, 1.5" deck

Atacama-class CL (Chile) - 3 ships
12x6" guns, 31 knots, 4.1" belt, 1.57" deck

Astraea-class CLAA (Chile) - 2 ships
16x5.12" guns, 33 knots, 3.15" belt, 30mm deck

Buenaventura-class CLAA (Colombia) - 1 ship
12x5.12" guns, 32 knots, 60mm belt, 40mm deck

Carabobo-class CL (Colombia) - 2 ships
5x5.5" guns, 30 knots, 80mm belt, 20mm deck

Francisco de Miranda-class CL (Colombia) - 3 ships (old)
8x4.33" guns, 27 knots, 1" deck

Acapulco and Hermosillo-class CLs (Mexico) - 4 ships
10x6" guns, 32 knots, 3.5" belt, 1.5" deck


Only four of these ships (the Chilean Astraeas, the Maunga Terevaka, and the Buenaventura) are faster than 32 knots, and usually by very small margins. Note on the Mexican ships - all four of those vessels are in the Pacific, and the weaker Mexican cruisers are in the Atlantic.

A modern 9x6" cruiser per the above might stand a decent chance against the Mexican CLs; a 12x6" ship would do even better against them, and would be able to fight the Chilean Atacamas on an equal footing.

Here's an attempt to sim a CL capable of equaling the Mexican CLs and the Chilean Atacamas while still keeping the tonnage affordable.

[SIZE=3]Quechua, Peruvian Light Cruiser laid down 1938[/SIZE]

Displacement:
8,288 t light; 8,640 t standard; 9,479 t normal; 10,150 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
609.83 ft / 600.00 ft x 64.00 ft x 18.00 ft (normal load)
185.88 m / 182.88 m x 19.51 m x 5.49 m

Armament:
12 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns (4x3 guns), 102.98lbs / 46.71kg shells, 1938 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 4.13" / 105 mm guns (4x2 guns), 35.32lbs / 16.02kg shells, 1938 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
12 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (6x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1938 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
16 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1938 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1,546 lbs / 701 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 180
12 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.94" / 100 mm 390.00 ft / 118.87 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 3.94" / 100 mm 1.97" / 50 mm 2.95" / 75 mm
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm
3rd: 0.39" / 10 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 3.94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 70,389 shp / 52,510 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 7,500nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1,510 tons

Complement:
479 - 624

Cost:
£4.071 million / $16.282 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 193 tons, 2.0 %
Armour: 1,928 tons, 20.3 %
- Belts: 632 tons, 6.7 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 307 tons, 3.2 %
- Armour Deck: 951 tons, 10.0 %
- Conning Tower: 38 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 1,927 tons, 20.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,089 tons, 43.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,192 tons, 12.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 150 tons, 1.6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
15,044 lbs / 6,824 Kg = 146.1 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 2.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 3.1 ft / 0.9 m
Roll period: 15.3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.41
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.13

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.480
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.38 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 28.16 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 27.00 ft / 8.23 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 22.00 ft / 6.71 m
- Mid (50 %): 19.00 ft / 5.79 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 19.00 ft / 5.79 m
- Stern: 19.00 ft / 5.79 m
- Average freeboard: 20.45 ft / 6.23 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 84.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 160.5 %
Waterplane Area: 26,121 Square feet or 2,427 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 127 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 105 lbs/sq ft or 511 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.35
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

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Sunday, September 20th 2009, 7:59pm

Quoted

Let's look at the most likely regional opposition:


Those are only the smallish cruisers - there are plenty of bigger ones this ship would be likely to meet.

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Sunday, September 20th 2009, 8:00pm

Quoted

Originally posted by Red Admiral

Quoted

Let's look at the most likely regional opposition:


Those are only the smallish cruisers - there are plenty of bigger ones this ship would be likely to meet.

Such as?

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Sunday, September 20th 2009, 8:04pm

Thanks friends!!!

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Sunday, September 20th 2009, 8:15pm

Quoted

Originally posted by Brockpaine

Quoted

Originally posted by Red Admiral

Quoted

Let's look at the most likely regional opposition:


Those are only the smallish cruisers - there are plenty of bigger ones this ship would be likely to meet.

Such as?


I suspect that's a reference towards various Heavy and Super cruisers, as well as other powers that may operate in the area (US, UK, etc)

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Sunday, September 20th 2009, 8:35pm

Quoted

Originally posted by ShinRa_Inc

Quoted

Originally posted by Brockpaine
Such as?


I suspect that's a reference towards various Heavy and Super cruisers, as well as other powers that may operate in the area (US, UK, etc)

The region's heavy or armoured cruisers are all pretty far out of the league of a single CL, with the lonely exception of the Chilean Ojos del Salado-class - now down to one unit (Volcan Osorno). Trying to build a CL which has a chance against a heavyd cruiser like Constitucion is going to get really darned expensive. Even the Mexican Villas are going to be a challenge for any 6" gunned cruiser, unless you take them by surprise at night, with torpedoes; but even a DD can do that.

And I only counted, as I stated, regional opposition. The USN Brooklyns are 12x6" + 12x5" and very good ships; the Atlantean Acestus and Cerasus-class are lighter CLs than what I just proposed; the Iberians have nothing bigger than 9x6" or 12x5"; the British can bring so many CLs it's barely even worth discussing; the Brazilian Sagitério-class is 9x6", their Almirante Barroso-class 15x6"; and the Argentines have some 15x6" CLs as well.

Miss anything?

If we're trying to design a light cruiser that can beat a 30s/40s-Era armoured cruiser, then why not try something with six quad 6" turrets and a 9" belt? I've got one of those in my design file, too... :P