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Friday, November 14th 2003, 5:08pm

Italy 31/12/1921

1/10/1921-31/12/1921 4th quarter

17 Factories

Genoa -
Type 3 Slipway - Francesco Morosini – 22.4 months left – 3000t
Type 3 Slipway -
Type 3 Drydock -
Type 3 Drydock -
Type 1 Slipway -
Type 1 Drydock -

DL-01 – 5 months left – launched in November/21

Taranto -
Type 4 Slipway -
Type 4 Drydock -
Type 3 Slipway - MM Astraea laid down 09/21 – 14 months left – 3000t
Type 3 Slipway -
Type 3 Drydock -
Type 3 Drydock -
Type 1 Slipway -
Type 1 Drydock -

DL-02 – 5 months left – launched in November/21

Naples -
Type 3 Slipway -
Type 3 Drydock -
Type 1 Slipway -
Type 1 Drydock -

Venice -
Type 3 Slipway -
Type 3 Drydock – Regina Elana is rebuilding – 3 months left
Type 1 Slipway -
Type 1 Drydock -

Messina -
Type 4 Slipway -
Type 4 Drydock -
Type 3 Slipway – MM Sicilia laid down 09/21 – 33 months left – 3000t
Type 3 Slipway –
Type 3 Drydock –
Type 3 Drydock -
Type 1 Slipway -
Type 1 Drydock –

Cristoforto Columbo – 11.7 months left –launched 1920 – 3000t



12,000tons materials needed.
12 factories produce 12,000t of materials

5 fixed factories produce 1.0pts

1.0pts spent on factory no. 18
Factory No. 18 needs 6.8pts to complete

Type 3 port at Mogadishu needs 8.0pts to complete



Fleet Strength
BB. 6(0)+3
CV. 0(0)+1
CA. 0(1)+0
CL. 7(0)+0
CDA. 0(0)+1
DD. 25(0)+2
Escorts. 15(0)+0



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Friday, November 14th 2003, 5:13pm

MM Astraea

http://www.geocities.com/red_admiral_italy/astraea.html

NB Ignore MM Aries for the time being

MM Astraea, Italian Escort Cruiser laid down 1921

Displacement:
8,001 t light; 8,525 t standard; 10,226 t normal; 11,547 t full load
Loading submergence 627 tons/feet

Dimensions:
505.00 ft x 58.00 ft x 18.80 ft (normal load)
153.92 m x 17.68 m x 5.73 m

Armament:
6 - 10.00" / 254 mm guns (3 Main turrets x 2 guns, 1 superfiring turret)
Superfiring turret is aft
Aft turrets separated by engine room
12 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (6 2nd turrets x 2 guns)
12 - 1.59" / 41 mm AA guns
Weight of broadside 3,830 lbs / 1,737 kg

Armour:
Belt 5.91" / 150 mm, ends unarmoured
Belts cover 72 % of normal area
Main turrets 5.91" / 150 mm, 2nd turrets 1.97" / 50 mm
AA gun shields 0.04" / 1 mm
Armour deck 3.15" / 80 mm, Conning tower 2.95" / 75 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 31,342 shp / 23,381 Kw = 24.00 kts
Range 11,500nm at 15.00 kts

Complement:
508 - 661

Cost:
£2.121 million / $8.484 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 479 tons, 4.7 %
Armour: 2,603 tons, 25.5 %
Belts: 531 tons, 5.2 %, Armament: 763 tons, 7.5 %, Armour Deck: 1,279 tons, 12.5 %
Conning Tower: 30 tons, 0.3 %, Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 1,079 tons, 10.6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,740 tons, 36.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,225 tons, 21.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 1.0 %

Metacentric height 2.4

Remarks:
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation & workspaces is excellent

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.05
Shellfire needed to sink: 13,956 lbs / 6,331 Kg = 27.9 x 10.0 " / 254 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 2.1
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 67 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0.92
Relative quality as seaboat: 1.11

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.650
Sharpness coefficient: 0.40
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 7.12
'Natural speed' for length: 22.47 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
Trim: 60
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 72.0 %
Relative accommodation and working space: 123.4 %
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 118 %
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 0.99
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 116 lbs / square foot or 566 Kg / square metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 1.17
(for 15.00 ft / 4.57 m average freeboard, freeboard adjustment -0.21 ft)
Relative composite hull strength: 1.01

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Friday, November 14th 2003, 7:14pm

is this the tonnage Italy officially declares? I'd suggest declaring the fake tonnage here and the correct design over at the design board.

cheers

Bernhard

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Friday, November 14th 2003, 7:24pm

Declaring tonnage

I think Springstyles should be accurate, just to keep things simple. It's data for press releases that get fiddled with.

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Saturday, November 15th 2003, 10:17am

This is her actual stats. The released statistics are that her displacement is 8,050t. The problem is those 10" gun turret that are being reused. Much more work has had to into them than was originally thought when the design was approved. Some late corrections had to be made that push her slightly over the limit.

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Saturday, November 15th 2003, 11:28am

Any secrets with that 1mm AA shield? Seems to be rather thin to be used for protection.

Walter

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Saturday, November 15th 2003, 12:11pm

Well springsharp won't let me enter in a thickness greater than 1mm and as my picture shows gun shields i thought that i'd better put some weight for them in.

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Saturday, November 15th 2003, 12:24pm

Odd...
It should be able to accept a greater thickness...

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Saturday, November 15th 2003, 12:35pm

Are you by chance referring to...

"AA gun armor restricted to 1 inch maximum" ?
Shouldn't be a problem (read: "ignore the warning"). For some reason SS thinks that when you enter a mm thickness for the shields, that they are equal to an inch and thus gives that warning if you get over 1mm. But it shouldn't give any problems with the design in the end.
Let's hope this minor error will be removed in the future version of SS.

Walter

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Saturday, November 15th 2003, 12:40pm

Thats the one. The entered number also turns red. Its probably because i'm working in metric.

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Saturday, November 15th 2003, 3:23pm

Well, looking at the design, you work both with metric and imperial.
Still, it should be no problem if you were to enter 20mm or so for the shields. The warning does not pop up in the datafile. Didn't LordArpad had guns with 20 inch shields due to a metric/imperial error he made with entering the data into SS?

Walter

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Monday, November 17th 2003, 12:02am

I had indeed - not to mention the 17 mm Torpedoes ;-)

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Monday, November 17th 2003, 5:05am

lol

...those Iberian cooks are pleased with the snafu though, now they can cook all the fish they want!