40th Session of the League of Nations

Sage

Tuesday, February 15th 2005, 4:04am

Topic: Parcels Islands Dispute.

It is hereby addressed that the claims of the Philippines and Chile will be discussed by the member nations and a decision on the claim and counterclaim will be made.

The Chileans state that they have legally claimed an unclaimed, uninhabited group of islands for use as a refueling station for anti-piracy patrols in the South China Sea. Chile has express that it will allow other nations to use the facilities for their own anti-piracy forces should that be their goal. The Chilean Government has also stated that they will allow the local fisherman (Chinese and Vietnamese mostly) to continue to use the islands as they have done in the past. Chile's only concern it to maintain the anti-piracy patrol in water that have been know to contain many pirates for at least the last three to four hundred years, if not longer.

The Chileans rest so that the Filipinos may speak of their own claim....

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Swamphen

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Tuesday, February 15th 2005, 4:42am

The Philippines would like to note that we have evidence that the Paracels Islands have been used as a base for the pirates that have plagued the South China Sea for the past several years.

While Chile promises many things with regard to the Paracels, for how long will these promises be kept?

In addition, we stand on a matter of principle that we oppose further colonising of the South East Asian Region, and that is exactly what this is.

Nevertheless, we propose to the League that the Paracels Islands be split between the Philippines and Chile, with the Amphritite Group becoming a colony of Chile, and the Crescent Group attached to a province of the Republic of the Philippines.

Thank you.

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Exhibit 'A': the islands in question.

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Ithekro

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Tuesday, February 15th 2005, 5:08am

Exhibit "B"

In responce the Chilean has laid out a map of the surrounding area.

Exhibit "B"

(Note: modern map, but it gets the idea across).

Why would the Filipinos need these islands for their own? Don't they have enough nearby already?

If the League feels the islands must be split we will abid by there decision, or we can turn the claim for the whole of the Islands over to the League for international use. A League owned anti-piracy station. The Chileans would request that they be allowed to administer the station, but each member nation would contribute, in rotation, forces to keep the South China Sea safe from piracy.

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HoOmAn

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Tuesday, February 15th 2005, 9:11am

The South African Delegate wonders what business Chile has in the South China Sea? Those waters are very far away from Chiles shore and there are no Chilean territories nearby.

On the other hand the Parcel Islands are adjacent to the Filipinos home lands and waters. Dealing with pirates in that area is their local and daily business.

Futher more there are already other powers nearby that already have business in that region like the British who are operating from Hong Kong or the Dutch.

It is our Governments opinion that those islands are too far away from Chile to integrate them into Chilean culture and too small and far away to allow Chile to help those living on those islands should mother nature strike them hard which we expect to happen relatively often.

We thereby do not see how Chiles claim can do any good to the reagion while it obviously raises tensions.

We thus recommend to hand these islands over to the Philippines.

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thesmilingassassin

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Tuesday, February 15th 2005, 9:42am

The Atlantian delegate wonders why either country would need these Islands. The French have had very few problems with Pirates in the region, none to my knowledge, despite their poximity to a suposed pirate infested region. Further more the islands are within in the Chinese sphere of influence as well.

We feel that this whole "Piracy threat" nonesence is merely an excuse used by both nations to expand thier territorial holdings. We need more supportive claims than just mere piracy.

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Commodore Green

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Tuesday, February 15th 2005, 11:12am

Iberian hat for the first time!

We see no reason for the Chilians to have a base in the Paracels. These islands fall closer to French Indo-China and to our colony on San Hainando, then they do to either of the claimant countries.

Apart from this fact they could be regarded as little more than a hazard to navigation.

We also do not see a requirement for an Anti-Piracy patrol based on these islands. We have had no encounters with pirates in these waters.

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CanisD

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Tuesday, February 15th 2005, 11:30am

The United States, not being a member of the League of Nations, has nothing to say here officially. However, we also fail to comprehend the interest in these insignificant islands. They certainly are not worth the angst they seem to be causing!

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Red Admiral

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Tuesday, February 15th 2005, 11:58am

Italy proposes that neither claim should be upheld, but that the islands should be turned over into the possession of the Chinese. This is the South China Sea after all.

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Basically, giving control to a NPC solves most of the problems here. Otherwise I'd be tempted to offer them to French Indo-China.

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alt_naval

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Tuesday, February 15th 2005, 12:08pm

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possession of the Chinese. This is the South China Sea after all

Here here! and India can have the Indian Ocean. ; )

Cheers.

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The Rock Doctor

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Tuesday, February 15th 2005, 3:08pm

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Here here! and India can have the Indian Ocean.

That's the long term plan, anyway.

In character:

"India agrees with South Africa's statement regarding Chile's business in this region of the world. India also agrees with the Philippines' opposition to new colonialism of any kind.

"India remains unconvinced of the value of the Chilean anti-piracy operations, and therefore opposes the Chilean claim. If Chile intends to maintain its operations, we encourage dialogue with nations in the area as a possible means of establishing basing rights at an existing port.

"India requests that France and Iberia clarify whether their local governments are asserting claims over the islands, and asks China to make its position known, so that future controversy can be avoided. Once this is resolved, India will consider whose claim it supports."

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Rooijen10

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Tuesday, February 15th 2005, 6:35pm

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We also do not see a requirement for an Anti-Piracy patrol based on these islands. We have had no encounters with pirates in these waters.

Pehaps you didn't but me and LordArpad did. :-)
From an Iberian point of view, I think it should read "We have had no more encounters with pirates in these waters since our conflict some years ago."

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RAM

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Tuesday, February 15th 2005, 7:01pm

The dutch official stance is that those lands have been unreclaimed until now and should be kept this way from now onwards.

Chilean allegations on needing bases to combat piracy are seen as a mere excuse: the South China Sea is extremely far off the nearest chilean point to really worry them. Piracy fighting on a given sea is something wich concerns only the nations who own lands nearby said sea. Chile has no reason to worry about piracy in, or near, the Paracell Island.

Phillipine allegations are a little more valid, but still seem baseless: Phillipines has bases near enough the zone not to need further lands there.

Thus the vote of the dutch representation is to leave the paracell as they are now.

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thesmilingassassin

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Tuesday, February 15th 2005, 7:27pm

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Originally posted by alt_naval

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possession of the Chinese. This is the South China Sea after all

Here here! and India can have the Indian Ocean. ; )

Cheers.

I'll buy that, give my the Atlantic and we have a deal!

*sim hat on*

The Atlantian delegate agree's with the Italian delegate, we cannot accept either claim based on the current reasons. More evidence is needed as to why either side has a legitimate claim to the Islands.

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Rooijen10

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Tuesday, February 15th 2005, 7:32pm

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Originally posted by thesmilingassassin

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Originally posted by alt_naval

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possession of the Chinese. This is the South China Sea after all

Here here! and India can have the Indian Ocean. ; )

Cheers.

I'll buy that, give my the Atlantic and we have a deal!

To complete the Oceans...
I planned to call the former Japanese Pacific Mandate PACIFICA (how original). Guess they can have the whole Pacific then. ^_^