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Ubiwan

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Friday, August 25th 2006, 8:06am

New Dagu - Class

After the first design studdies, now the CNDO shows it's new design for the DAGU-CLASS.


Dagu-Class
Chinese Patrolcraft
laid down 1932

Displacement:
261 t light; 270 t standard; 300 t normal; 324 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
164,70 ft / 164,70 ft x 22,97 ft x 10,83 ft (normal load)
50,20 m / 50,20 m x 7,00 m x 3,30 m

Armament:
2 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm guns in single mounts, 13,50lbs / 6,12kg shells, 1932 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on centreline ends, evenly spread
1 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,88kg shells, 1932 Model
Anti-aircraft gun in deck mount
on side amidships
3 - 0,79" / 20,0 mm guns in single mounts, 0,24lbs / 0,11kg shells, 1932 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 30 lbs / 13 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion motors,
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 2.296 shp / 1.713 Kw = 20,00 kts
Range 3.000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 54 tons

Complement:
35 - 46

Cost:
£0,099 million / $0,395 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 4 tons, 1,2%
Machinery: 68 tons, 22,6%
Hull, fittings & equipment: 160 tons, 53,3%
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 39 tons, 12,9%
Miscellaneous weights: 30 tons, 10,0%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
646 lbs / 293 Kg = 47,9 x 3,0 " / 76 mm shells or 0,5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,03
Metacentric height 0,6 ft / 0,2 m
Roll period: 12,6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 97 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,15
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,93

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0,256
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,17 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 12,83 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 14,11 ft / 4,30 m
- Forecastle (20%): 8,99 ft / 2,74 m
- Mid (50%): 8,99 ft / 2,74 m
- Quarterdeck (15%): 8,99 ft / 2,74 m
- Stern: 8,99 ft / 2,74 m
- Average freeboard: 9,40 ft / 2,86 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 94,2%
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 171,1%
Waterplane Area: 3.497 Square feet or 325 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 154%
Structure weight / hull surface area: 32 lbs/sq ft or 155 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,79
- Longitudinal: 8,35
- Overall: 1,00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Misc. Weights: 30 tons for ASW equipment (2xDCT; 4xDCP)

2

Friday, August 25th 2006, 10:10am

A very nice little patrol boat. I would try reducing the draught a little to allow it to get closer inshore. Other than that a good design with stacks of seakeeping.

3

Friday, August 25th 2006, 11:32am

The Cb needs to be increased significantly.

4

Friday, August 25th 2006, 12:08pm

True, minimum block coefficient is 0.38, I believe.

5

Friday, August 25th 2006, 1:52pm

As others have said, increase Cb and decrease the draught to compensate. Not only will you get closer inshore, but your hull will probably be less likely to do unhealthy things.

Like snap.

Ubiwan

Unregistered

6

Friday, August 25th 2006, 2:15pm

Dagu, China Patrolcraft laid down 1932

Displacement:
273 t light; 282 t standard; 312 t normal; 336 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
167,00 ft / 164,70 ft x 22,97 ft x 7,22 ft (normal load)
50,90 m / 50,20 m x 7,00 m x 2,20 m

Armament:
2 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm guns in single mounts, 13,50lbs / 6,12kg shells, 1932 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on centreline ends, evenly spread
1 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,88kg shells, 1932 Model
Anti-aircraft gun in deck mount
on side amidships
3 - 0,79" / 20,0 mm guns in single mounts, 0,24lbs / 0,11kg shells, 1932 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 30 lbs / 13 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Conning tower: 15,00" / 381 mm

Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion motors,
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 2.527 shp / 1.885 Kw = 20,00 kts
Range 3.000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 54 tons

Complement:
36 - 48

Cost:
£0,105 million / $0,420 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 4 tons, 1,2%
Armour: 15 tons, 4,8%
- Belts: 0 tons, 0,0%
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0%
- Armament: 0 tons, 0,0%
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0,0%
- Conning Tower: 15 tons, 4,8%
Machinery: 75 tons, 23,9%
Hull, fittings & equipment: 150 tons, 48,0%
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 39 tons, 12,5%
Miscellaneous weights: 30 tons, 9,6%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
475 lbs / 215 Kg = 35,2 x 3,0 " / 76 mm shells or 0,4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,01
Metacentric height 0,6 ft / 0,2 m
Roll period: 12,9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 69 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,12
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,25

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0,400
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,17 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 12,83 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 55
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 10,83 ft / 3,30 m
- Forecastle (20%): 9,84 ft / 3,00 m
- Mid (50%): 8,99 ft / 2,74 m
- Quarterdeck (15%): 8,99 ft / 2,74 m
- Stern: 8,99 ft / 2,74 m
- Average freeboard: 9,37 ft / 2,86 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 97,6%
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 113,2%
Waterplane Area: 2.328 Square feet or 216 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 139%
Structure weight / hull surface area: 35 lbs/sq ft or 170 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,94
- Longitudinal: 5,25
- Overall: 1,11
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Misc. Weights: 30 tons for ASW equipment (2xDCT; 4xDCP)

7

Friday, August 25th 2006, 2:22pm

Is the conning tower armour a typo? It seems slightly excessive.

Is she for riverine or littoral operations?

Ubiwan

Unregistered

8

Friday, August 25th 2006, 2:39pm

Of course this is a mistake, because i haven't change the unit from inch to mm :-( *sorry my fault*

Now with the correct unit ;-) ....

Dagu, China Patrolcraft laid down 1932

Displacement:
273 t light; 282 t standard; 312 t normal; 336 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
167,00 ft / 164,70 ft x 22,97 ft x 7,22 ft (normal load)
50,90 m / 50,20 m x 7,00 m x 2,20 m

Armament:
2 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm guns in single mounts, 13,50lbs / 6,12kg shells, 1932 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on centreline ends, evenly spread
1 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,88kg shells, 1932 Model
Anti-aircraft gun in deck mount
on side amidships
3 - 0,79" / 20,0 mm guns in single mounts, 0,24lbs / 0,11kg shells, 1932 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 30 lbs / 13 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Conning tower: 0,59" / 15 mm

Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion motors,
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 2.527 shp / 1.885 Kw = 20,00 kts
Range 3.000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 54 tons

Complement:
36 - 48

Cost:
£0,105 million / $0,420 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 4 tons, 1,2%
Armour: 1 tons, 0,2%
- Belts: 0 tons, 0,0%
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0%
- Armament: 0 tons, 0,0%
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0,0%
- Conning Tower: 1 tons, 0,2%
Machinery: 75 tons, 23,9%
Hull, fittings & equipment: 164 tons, 52,6%
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 39 tons, 12,5%
Miscellaneous weights: 30 tons, 9,6%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
487 lbs / 221 Kg = 36,1 x 3,0 " / 76 mm shells or 0,4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,06
Metacentric height 0,6 ft / 0,2 m
Roll period: 12,3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 69 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,11
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,25

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0,400
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,17 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 12,83 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 55
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 10,83 ft / 3,30 m
- Forecastle (20%): 9,84 ft / 3,00 m
- Mid (50%): 8,99 ft / 2,74 m
- Quarterdeck (15%): 8,99 ft / 2,74 m
- Stern: 8,99 ft / 2,74 m
- Average freeboard: 9,37 ft / 2,86 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 97,6%
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 113,2%
Waterplane Area: 2.328 Square feet or 216 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 149%
Structure weight / hull surface area: 38 lbs/sq ft or 186 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1,04
- Longitudinal: 5,75
- Overall: 1,24
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Misc. Weights: 30 tons for ASW equipment (2xDCT; 4xDCP)



She is for the ocean use, but if necessary she could also be used in the wide rivers.

9

Friday, August 25th 2006, 4:20pm

Quoted

Of course this is a mistake, because i haven't change the unit from inch to mm :-( *sorry my fault*

Don't worry. At least the guys inside would have been safe.

10

Friday, August 25th 2006, 8:15pm

...in their upside down boat!!!