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Saturday, May 24th 2003, 2:06am

OK, fast ships and SS

data is from http://www.warships1.com/FREclf07_Fantas_specs.htm

Fantasque, France Scout Cruiser laid down 1932
DESIGN FAILURE: Load weight too much for hull

Displacement:
2,492 t light; 2,584 t standard; 2,876 t normal; 3,098 t full load
Loading submergence 254 tons/feet

Dimensions:
411.42 ft x 40.68 ft x 15.42 ft (normal load)
125.40 m x 12.40 m x 4.70 m

Armament:
5 - 5.43" / 138 mm guns
1 - 2.95" / 75 mm guns
2 - 1.46" / 37 mm AA guns
4 - 0.53" / 14 mm guns
Weight of broadside 417 lbs / 189 kg
9 - 21.7" / 550 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
Main gun shields 0.79" / 20 mm, AA gun shields 0.79" / 20 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 79,754 shp / 59,497 Kw = 37.00 kts
Range 3,600nm at 17.00 kts

Complement:
196 - 255

Cost:
£1.767 million / $7.067 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 52 tons, 1.8 %
Armour: 8 tons, 0.3 %
Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %, Armament: 8 tons, 0.3 %, Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %, Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 1,840 tons, 64.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 591 tons, 20.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 384 tons, 13.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Metacentric height 2.7

Remarks:
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is extremely poor
Room for accommodation & workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.55
Shellfire needed to sink: 392 lbs / 178 Kg = 4.9 x 5.4 " / 138 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 0.3
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 73 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0.19
Relative quality as seaboat: 1.12

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.390
Sharpness coefficient: 0.29
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 8.84
'Natural speed' for length: 20.28 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 68 %
Trim: 65
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 220.0 %
Relative accommodation and working space: 94.7 %
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 56 %
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 0.37
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 32 lbs / square foot or 157 Kg / square metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 1.06
(for 18.04 ft / 5.50 m average freeboard, freeboard adjustment 6.24 ft)
Relative composite hull strength: 0.41

power is about equal to what was historically installed

cheers

Bernhard

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Saturday, May 24th 2003, 2:35am

Springstyle and, by extension Springsharp, is known for breaking down with regards to fast units. As it is, my copy of M. J. Whitley's Destroyers of World War Two: An International Encyclopedia states data which differ slightly in some places:
  1. Full load displacement is given as 3,400 tons
  2. Draught is given as 16.5ft mean
  3. Range is given as 4000nm at 15 knots
  4. Bunkers is quoted at 580 tons; your sim gives Fuel, ammunition & stores at 384 tons
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    These ships used a rather advanced form of machinery, which used superheated boilers, and three stages of turbines (high-pressure, intermediate pressuere, and low-pressure) plus cruising-turbines, to achieve very favourable characteristics.