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Originally posted by Ithekro
Chile's fleet was built to counter Argentina...so was Brazil's. Now we don't know if our fleets are needed to be in the local area, or if the threat is gone, so we can focus on other things.
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As noted in a post elsewhere, I have something planned for South America - forwhich reason I felt it prudent that the significant navies of South America be a bit more fleshed out. Given the generally higher number of navies in Wes-World, not to mention the much greater presence of battleship-possessing colonial powers in South America, I felt it was likely that the existing independent nations would have slightly larger navies, but they can't be too much larger, given that they're not part of the treaty. What I had in mind of the major units is listed below; information is taken from Jane's, except for two classes of ships built in Nordmark for Chile. Belt-armour is listed as "Main belt"/"Forward/Aft belt"/"Upper belt", incidentally.
Argentine fleet of early 1921:
Dreadnoughts Rivadavia and Moreno (1910-1915)
577.5ft x 95ft x 28ft, 30600tons standard, 22.5 knots, 11in/5in/8in belt, 12in turrets, 3in deck
12 - 30.5cm/12in 50cal
12 - 15.3cm/6in 50cal
15 - 4in 50cal
4 - 3pdr
6 - MG
2 - 21in TT subm
Pre-deadnought battleships Vientecinco de Mayo and Hercules (ex HMS Britannia and HMS Zealandia, 1902-1905)
439ft x 78ft x 26.75ft, 16350tons normal, 18 knots, 9in/6in/7in belt, 12in turrets, 2in deck
4 - 30.5cm/12in 45cal
4 - 23.5cm/9.2in 45cal
10 - 15.3cm/6in
12 - 12pdr
14 - 3pdr
2 - MG
5 - 18in TT subm
Armoured cruisers Presidente Sarmiento and Santísima Trinidad (1906-1909)
529ft x 75ft x 26ft, 15190tons normal, 24 knots, 6in/4in/3in belt, 8in turrets, 1.5in deck
4 - 25.4cm/10in 50cal
8 - 20.3cm/8in 50cal
20 - 12cm/4.7in 50cal
2 - 3pdr
2 - 1pdr AA
2 - MG
2 - 18in TT subm
Armoured cruisers General Belgrano, Garibaldi, and Pueyrredon (1895-189
328ft x 59.5ft x 23.2ft, 6840tons normal, 20 knots, 6in/3in/6in belt, 6in turrets, 1.5in deck
2 - 25.4cm/10in 50cal
14 - 15.3cm/6in 50cal
4 - 12pdr
4 - 6pdr
4 - 18in TT subm
Armoured cruiser General San Martin (1896-189
328ft x 59.5ft x 23.2ft, 6840tons normal, 20 knots, 6in/3in/6in belt, 6in turrets, 1.5in deck
4 - 20.3cm/8in 50cal
10 - 15.3cm/6in 50cal
6 - 12cm/4.7in 50cal
2 - 12pdr
6 - 6pdr
4 - 18in TT subm
Protected cruiser Buenos Aires (1894-1896)
403.5ft x 47.2ft x 19ft, 4780tons normal, 23 knots, 4.5in turrets, 5in deck
2 - 20.3cm/8in 45cal
4 - 15.3cm/6in 45cal
6 - 12cm/4.7in 45cal
12 - 3pdr
5 - 18in TT
Protected cruiser Nueve de Julio (1891-1893)
529ft x 75ft x 26ft, 15190tons normal, 24 knots, 6in/4in/3in belt, 8in turrets, 1.5in deck
4 - 15.3cm/10in 40cal
8 - 12cm/4.7in 40cal
10 - 3pdr
3 - 18in TT
Protected cruiser Almirante Brown (1879-1881, reconstructed 1907)
529ft x 75ft x 26ft, 15190tons normal, 24 knots, 6in/4in/3in belt, 8in turrets, 1.5in deck
6 - 15.3cm/6in 50cal
4 - 12cm/4.7in 50cal
8 - 3pdr
2 - 18in TT
Coast-defence armoured ships Independencia and Libertad (1889-1891)
240ft x 43ft x 13ft, 2300tons normal, 14 knots, 8in/-/- belt, 8in turrets, 1.5in deck
2 - 24cm/9.45in 35cal
4 - 12cm/4.7in 40cal
6 - 3pdr
Light scout cruisers Comodoro Py, Hipolito Bouchard, Segui, and Espora (1910-1913)
385ft x 41.5ft x 15.5ft, 3440tons normal, 25 knots, 1in deck
8 - 12cm/4.7in 40cal
4 - 3pdr
1 - MG
2 - 21in TT
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Brazilian fleet of early 1921
Dreadnoughts Minas Geraes and Sao Paulo (1907-1910)
530ft x 83ft x 25ft, 21200tons normal, 21 knots, 9in/6in/7in belt, 12in turrets, 2in deck
12 - 30.5cm/12in 45cal
22 - 12cm/4.7in
8 - 3pdr
4 - MG
Pre-dreadnought battleships Riachuelo and Aquidabã (ex HMS Queen and HMS Prince of Wales, 1901-1904)
411ft x 75ft x 29ft, 15000tons normal, 18 knots, 9in/6in/7in belt, 12in turrets, 2in deck
4 - 30.5cm/12in 45cal
12 - 15.3cm/6in 45cal
16 - 12pdr
6 - 3pdr
2 - MG
4 - 18in TT subm
Coast defence armourclads Deodoro and Floriano (1897-1900)
267.5ft x 48ft x 13.25ft, 3162tons normal, 15 knots, 13.75in/4in/- belt, 8in turrets, 1.5in deck
2 - 24cm/9.45in 45cal
4 - 12cm/4.7in 50cal
4 - 6pdr
2 - MG
Protected cruiser Barroso (1895-1897)
330ft x 43.75ft x 16.8ft, 3450tons normal, 20 knots, 3in deck
6 - 15.3cm/6in 50cal
4 - 12cm/4.7in 50cal
10 - 6pdr
4 - 1pdr
4 - MG
Light scout cruisers Bahia and Rio Grande do Sul (1908-1910)
401.5ft x 39ft x 13.5ft, 3000tons normal, 25 knots, 1.5in deck
10 - 12cm/4.7in 50cal
6- 3pdr
2 - 18in TT subm
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