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Tuesday, November 22nd 2005, 11:58am

Nordmark Gjøvik Class Heavy Cruiser

Oooh, the WesWorld's CT-signatories get their first turret farm..... :) Are you sure you want to have part of the magazines or engines sticking out beyond the main belt, even with that end belt the design has? I assume the 50 tons of miscellaneous weight is intended for aircraft, right?

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Tuesday, November 22nd 2005, 12:10pm

Quoted

Oooh, the WesWorld's CT-signatories get their first turret farm..... :)


yep, Mwhahahahahaha

Quoted

Are you sure you want to have part of the magazines or engines sticking out beyond the main belt, even with that end belt the design has?


fixed

Quoted

I assume the 50 tons of miscellaneous weight is intended for aircraft, right?


correct

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Tuesday, November 22nd 2005, 1:32pm

Quoted

Zitat:
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I assume the 50 tons of miscellaneous weight is intended for aircraft, right?
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correct


In that case, you might want to note it in the Notes section, so it's more obvious. Same with the new BBs, and there you might want to add some tons for flag quarters.

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Tuesday, November 22nd 2005, 1:42pm

Quoted

Gjøvik Class, Nordmark Heavy Cruiser laid down 1925

Displacement:
12,160 t light; 12,600 t standard; 14,300 t normal; 15,660 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
700.00 ft / 700.00 ft x 65.00 ft x 20.00 ft (normal load)
213.36 m / 213.36 m x 19.81 m x 6.10 m

Armament:
15 - 5.90" / 150 mm guns (5x3 guns), 102.69lbs / 46.58kg shells, 1925 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority aft, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
4 - 4.30" / 109 mm guns in single mounts, 39.75lbs / 18.03kg shells, 1925 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
4 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns (2x2 guns), 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1925 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1925 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on centreline, all aft
Weight of broadside 1,778 lbs / 807 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
8 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5.00" / 127 mm 400.00 ft / 121.92 m 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
Ends: 1.00" / 25 mm 300.00 ft / 91.44 m 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
Main Belt covers 88 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 5.00" / 127 mm 2.00" / 51 mm 5.00" / 127 mm
2nd: 2.00" / 51 mm - -
3rd: 2.00" / 51 mm - -

- Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 5.00" / 127 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 100,103 shp / 74,676 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 10,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,059 tons

Complement:
653 - 849

Cost:
£3.493 million / $13.972 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 222 tons, 1.6 %
Armour: 2,901 tons, 20.3 %
- Belts: 1,146 tons, 8.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 517 tons, 3.6 %
- Armour Deck: 1,175 tons, 8.2 %
- Conning Tower: 63 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 3,250 tons, 22.7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,737 tons, 40.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,140 tons, 15.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 0.3 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
20,108 lbs / 9,121 Kg = 195.8 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 2.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.26
Metacentric height 4.0 ft / 1.2 m
Roll period: 13.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 56 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.28
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.12

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.550
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.77 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26.46 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 29.10 ft / 8.87 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 18.52 ft / 5.64 m
- Mid (50 %): 18.52 ft / 5.64 m
- Quarterdeck (20 %): 18.52 ft / 5.64 m
- Stern: 18.52 ft / 5.64 m
- Average freeboard: 19.37 ft / 5.90 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 86.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 150.8 %
Waterplane Area: 31,754 Square feet or 2,950 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 127 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 119 lbs/sq ft or 583 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.14
- Longitudinal: 0.95
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Røros, Gjøvik


Slow down please.

1. Length: Beam ratio is too high for a cruiser this size, it is in excess of 10:1, which is a no-no

2. From point 1, your cross-sectional strength is higher than longitudinal. This isn't really normal for these sorts of ships, but it will be solved by adopting a different hull form.

3. Why are you using 150mm guns and not 210mm? When asked before, Nordmark replied that it didn't have a 210mm gun to hand and so wouldn't build any "A" cruisers for a time. Its quite possible that they could have developed a new weapon though. The 210mm gun has quite a few advantages over the 150mm. Mainly ballistic, it being better to fight with at long range. The increased armour of Wesworld cruisers might also be a problem for the 150mm gun.

4. Mixed 110mm and 75mm secondaries? Why?

5. Nice armour, but maybe the belt is a bit too high compared to other cruisers. ~9ft being normal.

6. 100,000shp from 2 shafts? Possible in 1934 or so onwards.

7. Possibly a lack of space for mounting aircraft, 5 turrets and lots of secondary guns on this hull?

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Tuesday, November 22nd 2005, 1:48pm

Revised, 150mm guns are chosen owing to proposals I've found in Peng's files for massive 20 150mm gun turret farm CA's

Gjøvik Class, Nordmark Heavy Cruiser laid down 1925

Displacement:
11,978 t light; 12,414 t standard; 14,096 t normal; 15,441 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
695.13 ft / 690.00 ft x 65.00 ft x 20.00 ft (normal load)
211.88 m / 210.31 m x 19.81 m x 6.10 m

Armament:
15 - 5.90" / 150 mm guns (5x3 guns), 102.69lbs / 46.58kg shells, 1925 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority aft, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
4 - 4.30" / 109 mm guns in single mounts, 39.75lbs / 18.03kg shells, 1925 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
4 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns (2x2 guns), 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1925 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1925 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on centreline, all aft
Weight of broadside 1,778 lbs / 807 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
8 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5.00" / 127 mm 400.00 ft / 121.92 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Ends: 1.00" / 25 mm 290.00 ft / 88.39 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Main Belt covers 89 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 5.00" / 127 mm 2.00" / 51 mm 5.00" / 127 mm
2nd: 2.00" / 51 mm - -
3rd: 2.00" / 51 mm - -

- Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 5.00" / 127 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 99,914 shp / 74,536 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 10,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,028 tons

Complement:
646 - 840

Cost:
£3.469 million / $13.877 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 222 tons, 1.6 %
Armour: 2,689 tons, 19.1 %
- Belts: 951 tons, 6.7 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 517 tons, 3.7 %
- Armour Deck: 1,158 tons, 8.2 %
- Conning Tower: 63 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 3,244 tons, 23.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,773 tons, 41.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,118 tons, 15.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 0.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
19,604 lbs / 8,892 Kg = 190.9 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 2.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.26
Metacentric height 4.0 ft / 1.2 m
Roll period: 13.7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 55 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.28
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.10

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.550
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.62 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26.27 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 29.10 ft / 8.87 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 18.52 ft / 5.64 m
- Mid (50 %): 18.52 ft / 5.64 m
- Quarterdeck (20 %): 18.52 ft / 5.64 m
- Stern: 18.52 ft / 5.64 m
- Average freeboard: 19.37 ft / 5.90 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 87.9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 149.9 %
Waterplane Area: 31,300 Square feet or 2,908 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 128 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 122 lbs/sq ft or 595 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.16
- Longitudinal: 1.00
- Overall: 1.04
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Røros, Gjøvik

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Tuesday, November 22nd 2005, 1:53pm

Quoted

211.88 m / 210.31 m x 19.81 m x 6.10 m


This part is still problematic, her length to beam ratio needs to be under 10:1.

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Tuesday, November 22nd 2005, 1:55pm

See points 1, 2, 4, and 7, again.

20x150mm guns? Thats even crazier than my ideas. My comments about 210mm vs. 150mm still stand.

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Tuesday, November 22nd 2005, 2:14pm

Gjøvik Class, Nordmark Heavy Cruiser laid down 1925

Displacement:
11,606 t light; 12,031 t standard; 14,362 t normal; 16,226 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
645.13 ft / 640.00 ft x 68.00 ft x 21.00 ft (normal load)
196.64 m / 195.07 m x 20.73 m x 6.40 m

Armament:
15 - 5.90" / 150 mm guns (5x3 guns), 102.69lbs / 46.58kg shells, 1925 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority aft, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
4 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns (2x2 guns), 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1925 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (2x8 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1925 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 1,619 lbs / 734 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
8 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5.00" / 127 mm 400.00 ft / 121.92 m 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
Ends: 1.00" / 25 mm 240.00 ft / 73.15 m 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
Main Belt covers 96 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 6.00" / 152 mm 3.00" / 76 mm 5.00" / 127 mm
2nd: 2.00" / 51 mm - -
3rd: 2.00" / 51 mm - -

- Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 5.00" / 127 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 105,732 shp / 78,876 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 14,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 4,194 tons

Complement:
655 - 852

Cost:
£3.459 million / $13.835 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 202 tons, 1.4 %
Armour: 2,861 tons, 19.9 %
- Belts: 1,119 tons, 7.8 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 554 tons, 3.9 %
- Armour Deck: 1,124 tons, 7.8 %
- Conning Tower: 64 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 3,433 tons, 23.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,010 tons, 34.9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,755 tons, 19.2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 0.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
19,430 lbs / 8,813 Kg = 189.2 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 2.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.31
Metacentric height 4.6 ft / 1.4 m
Roll period: 13.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.21
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.01

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.550
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.41 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 25.30 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 29.10 ft / 8.87 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 18.52 ft / 5.64 m
- Mid (50 %): 18.52 ft / 5.64 m
- Quarterdeck (20 %): 18.52 ft / 5.64 m
- Stern: 18.52 ft / 5.64 m
- Average freeboard: 19.37 ft / 5.90 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 89.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 142.9 %
Waterplane Area: 30,372 Square feet or 2,822 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 125 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 110 lbs/sq ft or 537 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.02
- Longitudinal: 1.04
- Overall: 1.02
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Røros, Gjøvik

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Tuesday, November 22nd 2005, 2:20pm

You've got some hull strength left

Considering the rough North Atlantic, you might want better seakeeping

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Wednesday, November 23rd 2005, 3:48am

Er...is it just me or is the first post missing?

Anyhoo, it's an interesting concept. I agree with RA that, following the Argentine conflict, Nordmark might have taken the plunge and developed a 210mm gun...

Also would expect an 4x2 or 8x1 "heavy" AA battery, not 2x2.

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Wednesday, November 23rd 2005, 11:57am

Just you. :) What happened was the ship design was first posted to the Nordmark area, in response I started a thread here on it. There were a number of threads like this started yesterday.

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Wednesday, November 23rd 2005, 12:01pm

Quoted

Anyhoo, it's an interesting concept. I agree with RA that, following the Argentine conflict, Nordmark might have taken the plunge and developed a 210mm gun...


A lot more ships have thicker armour than historically. I'd be confident in saying that some cruiser designs would kick its ass fairly easily, mainly from the fact that their armour could only be penetrated at point-blank ranges.

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Wednesday, November 23rd 2005, 1:32pm

Here we go then

Gjøvik Class, Nordmark Heavy Cruiser laid down 1925

Displacement:
11,733 t light; 12,217 t standard; 14,313 t normal; 15,989 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
700.59 ft / 690.00 ft x 60.00 ft x 22.00 ft (normal load)
213.54 m / 210.31 m x 18.29 m x 6.71 m

Armament:
8 - 8.27" / 210 mm guns (4x2 guns), 282.57lbs / 128.17kg shells, 1925 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
4 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns (2x2 guns), 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1925 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (2x8 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1925 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 2,339 lbs / 1,061 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
8 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5.00" / 127 mm 430.00 ft / 131.06 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Ends: 1.00" / 25 mm 260.00 ft / 79.25 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Main Belt covers 96 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 6.00" / 152 mm 3.00" / 76 mm 5.00" / 127 mm
2nd: 2.00" / 51 mm - -
3rd: 2.00" / 51 mm - -

- Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 5.00" / 127 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 99,499 shp / 74,226 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 12,500nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,772 tons

Complement:
653 - 850

Cost:
£3.628 million / $14.512 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 292 tons, 2.0 %
Armour: 2,714 tons, 19.0 %
- Belts: 987 tons, 6.9 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 595 tons, 4.2 %
- Armour Deck: 1,069 tons, 7.5 %
- Conning Tower: 64 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 3,230 tons, 22.6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,396 tons, 37.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,580 tons, 18.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 0.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
18,612 lbs / 8,442 Kg = 65.9 x 8.3 " / 210 mm shells or 1.9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.13
Metacentric height 2.9 ft / 0.9 m
Roll period: 14.7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 66 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.66
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.31

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.550
Length to Beam Ratio: 11.50 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26.27 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 29.10 ft / 8.87 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 26.00 ft / 7.92 m
- Mid (50 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Quarterdeck (20 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Stern: 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Average freeboard: 21.65 ft / 6.60 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 90.3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 153.4 %
Waterplane Area: 28,893 Square feet or 2,684 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 123 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 110 lbs/sq ft or 537 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.98
- Longitudinal: 1.19
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Røros, Gjøvik

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Wednesday, November 23rd 2005, 4:09pm

Point 1 again?

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Wednesday, November 23rd 2005, 4:23pm

Gjøvik Class, Nordmark Heavy Cruiser laid down 1925

Displacement:
12,010 t light; 12,500 t standard; 14,606 t normal; 16,291 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
660.92 ft / 650.00 ft x 65.00 ft x 22.00 ft (normal load)
201.45 m / 198.12 m x 19.81 m x 6.71 m

Armament:
8 - 8.27" / 210 mm guns (4x2 guns), 282.57lbs / 128.17kg shells, 1925 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
4 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns (2x2 guns), 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1925 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (2x8 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1925 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 2,339 lbs / 1,061 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
8 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5.00" / 127 mm 450.00 ft / 137.16 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Ends: 1.00" / 25 mm 200.00 ft / 60.96 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Main Belt covers 107 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 6.00" / 152 mm 3.00" / 76 mm 5.00" / 127 mm
2nd: 2.00" / 51 mm - -
3rd: 2.00" / 51 mm - -

- Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 5.00" / 127 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 105,048 shp / 78,366 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 12,500nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,791 tons

Complement:
663 - 863

Cost:
£3.742 million / $14.969 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 292 tons, 2.0 %
Armour: 2,758 tons, 18.9 %
- Belts: 1,004 tons, 6.9 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 599 tons, 4.1 %
- Armour Deck: 1,091 tons, 7.5 %
- Conning Tower: 64 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 3,411 tons, 23.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,449 tons, 37.3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,596 tons, 17.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 0.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
19,236 lbs / 8,725 Kg = 68.1 x 8.3 " / 210 mm shells or 2.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.18
Metacentric height 3.6 ft / 1.1 m
Roll period: 14.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 58 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.48
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.15

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.550
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 25.50 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 30.00 ft / 9.14 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 26.00 ft / 7.92 m
- Mid (50 %): 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Quarterdeck (20 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Stern: 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Average freeboard: 22.02 ft / 6.71 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 92.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 158.4 %
Waterplane Area: 29,486 Square feet or 2,739 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 122 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 115 lbs/sq ft or 562 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.98
- Longitudinal: 1.27
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Røros, Gjøvik

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Wednesday, November 23rd 2005, 4:46pm

www.world-war.co.uk

This website on cruisers is extremely useful, especially for details on armour and other things. Maybe glean a few ideas here and there?

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Thursday, November 24th 2005, 2:27am

Looks good, the only thing I'd suggest is making the AA battery 4x1 instead of 2x2.

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Thursday, November 24th 2005, 6:23am

6x1 would be better ;-)

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Thursday, November 24th 2005, 12:08pm

Quoted

6x1 would be better ;-)


True, and with 100 tons of miscellaneous tonnage, there's tonnage left for the extra guns.

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Thursday, November 24th 2005, 4:54pm

they will be added when I improve the AA suite on all my ships in the 30's