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[SIZE=3]Gallant-class, French Destroyer laid down 1926 (Engine 1943)[/SIZE]

Displacement:
1,289 t light; 1,393 t standard; 1,554 t normal; 1,683 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
360.89 ft / 360.89 ft x 32.81 ft x 11.48 ft (normal load)
110.00 m / 110.00 m x 10.00 m x 3.50 m

Armament:
6 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns (3x2 guns), 35.27lbs / 16.00kg shells, 1943 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
8 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1943 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
4 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1943 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 228 lbs / 104 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 550
8 - 21.7" / 550 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.18" / 30 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -
2nd: 0.98" / 25 mm - -

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 33,764 shp / 25,188 Kw = 34.00 kts
Range 4,500nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 290 tons

Complement:
123 - 160

Cost:
£0.579 million / $2.316 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 25 tons, 1.6 %
Armour: 16 tons, 1.0 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 16 tons, 1.0 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 725 tons, 46.7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 452 tons, 29.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 265 tons, 17.1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 70 tons, 4.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
482 lbs / 219 Kg = 15.8 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.28
Metacentric height 1.5 ft / 0.4 m
Roll period: 11.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.23
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.08

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.400
Length to Beam Ratio: 11.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 21.80 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 66 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 65
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 21.33 ft / 6.50 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 15.09 ft / 4.60 m
- Mid (50 %): 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Stern: 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Average freeboard: 14.31 ft / 4.36 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 171.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 80.3 %
Waterplane Area: 7,564 Square feet or 703 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 77 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 31 lbs/sq ft or 151 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 1.72
- Overall: 0.56
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

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[SIZE=3]Le Terrible class, French Destroyer laid down 1929 (Engine 1943)[/SIZE]

Displacement:
1,315 t light; 1,393 t standard; 1,554 t normal; 1,683 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
375.67 ft / 360.89 ft x 32.81 ft x 11.48 ft (normal load)
114.50 m / 110.00 m x 10.00 m x 3.50 m

Armament:
6 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns (3x2 guns), 35.27lbs / 16.00kg shells, 1943 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (1x4 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1943 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mount
on centreline aft, all raised guns - superfiring
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1943 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
4 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1943 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 228 lbs / 104 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 350
8 - 21.7" / 550 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.18" / 30 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -
2nd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -
3rd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -

- Conning tower: 1.18" / 30 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 33,764 shp / 25,188 Kw = 34.00 kts
Range 4,500nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 290 tons

Complement:
123 - 160

Cost:
£0.674 million / $2.695 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 25 tons, 1.6 %
Armour: 20 tons, 1.3 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 17 tons, 1.1 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 3 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 724 tons, 46.6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 476 tons, 30.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 239 tons, 15.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 70 tons, 4.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
507 lbs / 230 Kg = 16.6 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.25
Metacentric height 1.4 ft / 0.4 m
Roll period: 11.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.24
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.09

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.400
Length to Beam Ratio: 11.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 21.80 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 66 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 64
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 25.59 ft / 7.80 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 17.39 ft / 5.30 m
- Mid (50 %): 17.39 ft / 5.30 m (10.01 ft / 3.05 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 10.01 ft / 3.05 m
- Stern: 11.48 ft / 3.50 m
- Average freeboard: 14.46 ft / 4.41 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 169.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 79.3 %
Waterplane Area: 7,564 Square feet or 703 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 76 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 32 lbs/sq ft or 157 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.52
- Longitudinal: 1.86
- Overall: 0.59
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

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[SIZE=3]Gallant class, French Destroyer laid down 1926 (Engine 1942)[/SIZE]

Displacement:
1,336 t light; 1,409 t standard; 1,554 t normal; 1,670 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
360.89 ft / 360.89 ft x 32.81 ft x 11.48 ft (normal load)
110.00 m / 110.00 m x 10.00 m x 3.50 m

Armament:
4 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns (2x2 guns), 30.51lbs / 13.84kg shells, 1942 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 5.65lbs / 2.56kg shells, 1942 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1926 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1926 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 153 lbs / 69 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 450
4 - 21.7" / 550 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.18" / 30 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 0.39" / 10 mm
2nd: 0.59" / 15 mm 0.20" / 5 mm 0.20" / 5 mm
3rd: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0.39" / 10 mm - -

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 33,764 shp / 25,188 Kw = 34.00 kts
Range 4,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 261 tons

Complement:
123 - 160

Cost:
£0.573 million / $2.292 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 19 tons, 1.2 %
Armour: 12 tons, 0.8 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 12 tons, 0.8 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 736 tons, 47.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 478 tons, 30.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 218 tons, 14.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 90 tons, 5.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
468 lbs / 212 Kg = 15.3 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
Metacentric height 1.2 ft / 0.4 m
Roll period: 12.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.33
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.03

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.400
Length to Beam Ratio: 11.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 21.80 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 66 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 68
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 21.33 ft / 6.50 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 15.09 ft / 4.60 m
- Mid (50 %): 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Stern: 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Average freeboard: 14.31 ft / 4.36 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 170.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 119.7 %
Waterplane Area: 7,564 Square feet or 703 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 77 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 33 lbs/sq ft or 159 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 1.71
- Overall: 0.57
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

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Originally posted by Brockpaine
Hm, good point. I think that might be correct, unfortunately.

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Originally posted by TheCanadian
I don't much like refitting destroyers in peacetime myself, though that being said I am refitting Romania's. I can see why France might want to do so, but I would weigh the cost of building new ones versus refitting the old ones.