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Saturday, July 19th 2008, 5:04am

Riverine Fleet

Some designs for a riverine force.

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Krum, Bulgarian Monitor laid down 1937

Displacement:
331 t light; 350 t standard; 354 t normal; 357 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
183.73 ft / 183.73 ft x 31.17 ft x 3.94 ft (normal load)
56.00 m / 56.00 m x 9.50 m x 1.20 m

Armament:
2 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns in single mounts, 67.02lbs / 30.40kg shells, 1937 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1937 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on centreline ends, evenly spread
6 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1937 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 143 lbs / 65 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 0.79" / 20 mm 119.42 ft / 36.40 m 6.70 ft / 2.04 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.57" / 40 mm 1.18" / 30 mm -
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -

- Armour deck: 0.79" / 20 mm, Conning tower: 1.18" / 30 mm

Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion motors,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 222 shp / 166 Kw = 10.00 kts
Range 300nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 7 tons

Complement:
40 - 53

Cost:
£0.150 million / $0.600 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 18 tons, 5.1 %
Armour: 101 tons, 28.5 %
- Belts: 28 tons, 7.8 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 14 tons, 3.9 %
- Armour Deck: 58 tons, 16.4 %
- Conning Tower: 1 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 6 tons, 1.7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 206 tons, 58.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 23 tons, 6.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
1,802 lbs / 818 Kg = 26.9 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 1.4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.25
Metacentric height 1.3 ft / 0.4 m
Roll period: 11.5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 81 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.21
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.61

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.550
Length to Beam Ratio: 5.89 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 13.55 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 28 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 14.76 ft / 4.50 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
- Mid (50 %): 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
- Stern: 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
- Average freeboard: 10.24 ft / 3.12 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 45.9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 187.3 %
Waterplane Area: 3,996 Square feet or 371 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 138 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 38 lbs/sq ft or 185 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.89
- Longitudinal: 2.93
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather


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Artillery Gunbarge, Bulgarian Landing Craft laid down 1940

Displacement:
188 t light; 196 t standard; 200 t normal; 203 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
155.94 ft / 154.20 ft x 21.33 ft x 4.76 ft (normal load)
47.53 m / 47.00 m x 6.50 m x 1.45 m

Armament:
2 - 3.46" / 88.0 mm guns (1x2 guns), 20.79lbs / 9.43kg shells, 1940 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mount
on centreline forward
2 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1940 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
2 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1940 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 45 lbs / 20 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.59" / 15 mm -
2nd: 0.39" / 10 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -
3rd: 0.39" / 10 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -

- Conning tower: 0.79" / 20 mm

Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion motors,
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 153 shp / 114 Kw = 10.50 kts
Range 1,000nm at 8.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 6 tons

Complement:
26 - 34

Cost:
£0.071 million / $0.286 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 6 tons, 2.8 %
Armour: 5 tons, 2.3 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 2.0 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 1 tons, 0.3 %
Machinery: 4 tons, 2.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 174 tons, 87.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 11 tons, 5.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
1,100 lbs / 499 Kg = 52.9 x 3.5 " / 88 mm shells or 1.6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.18
Metacentric height 0.7 ft / 0.2 m
Roll period: 10.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 53 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.14
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.43

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.447
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.23 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 14.68 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 32 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 37
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
- Mid (50 %): 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
- Stern: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
- Average freeboard: 6.82 ft / 2.08 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 30.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 104.5 %
Waterplane Area: 2,173 Square feet or 202 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 345 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 56 lbs/sq ft or 272 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.90
- Longitudinal: 4.18
- Overall: 2.06
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily


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Vrabche (Sparrow), Bulgarian River Gunboat laid down 1936

Displacement:
100 t light; 112 t standard; 115 t normal; 117 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
111.76 ft / 110.00 ft x 18.00 ft x 5.00 ft (normal load)
34.07 m / 33.53 m x 5.49 m x 1.52 m

Armament:
2 - 3.46" / 88.0 mm guns in single mounts, 20.79lbs / 9.43kg shells, 1936 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1936 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
4 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1936 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 46 lbs / 21 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 350

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.00" / 25 mm 0.50" / 13 mm 0.50" / 13 mm

- Conning tower: 1.00" / 25 mm

Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion motors,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 287 shp / 214 Kw = 13.00 kts
Range 400nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 5 tons

Complement:
16 - 22

Cost:
£0.050 million / $0.201 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 6 tons, 5.0 %
Armour: 4 tons, 3.4 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 3 tons, 3.0 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 1 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 8 tons, 7.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 72 tons, 63.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 15 tons, 12.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 10 tons, 8.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
240 lbs / 109 Kg = 11.5 x 3.5 " / 88 mm shells or 0.4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.06
Metacentric height 0.4 ft / 0.1 m
Roll period: 11.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 66 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.74
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.90

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.407
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.11 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 10.49 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 35
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 7.00 ft / 2.13 m
- Mid (50 %): 7.00 ft / 2.13 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 7.00 ft / 2.13 m
- Stern: 7.00 ft / 2.13 m
- Average freeboard: 7.24 ft / 2.21 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 77.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 102.0 %
Waterplane Area: 1,224 Square feet or 114 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 151 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 33 lbs/sq ft or 162 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.86
- Longitudinal: 7.48
- Overall: 1.07
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

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Saturday, July 19th 2008, 12:29pm

Germany has recently built some vessels for service on the Danube, of fairly similar type though rather different in detail.

For riverine service, I doubt you need an "excellent seaboat" rating, the river shouldn't get that rough. Also, on the Vrabche, I can't see the point of a hoist for the 88mm guns when the hull's only 5 feet deep.

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Saturday, July 19th 2008, 7:07pm

I probably clicked it on habit.

The excellent seaboat rating is partly an affect of the low speeds they all have.