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Tuesday, November 21st 2006, 11:47pm

Possible Peruvian Heavy Destroyer

During 1933 Peru will build at least two more Capitan Valdez Class and maybe more. But in 1934 maybe the first of these ships, pretty much German designed ships originally for Turkey but the design offered to us by the advisors in country, will be laid down. Three will be planned to be used first in the role of light cruisers until newer cruisers appear and later as destroyer flotilla leaders.

Independencia Class, German designed Peruvian Heavy Destroyers
Independencia: laid down 1934
Union: planned
Libertad: planned
Displacement:
2,851 t light; 2,979 t standard; 3,288 t normal; 3,536 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
483.15 ft / 465.88 ft x 44.29 ft x 13.94 ft (normal load)
147.26 m / 142.00 m x 13.50 m x 4.25 m

Armament:
6 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns (3x2 guns), 102.98lbs / 46.71kg shells, 1933 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
4 - 3.46" / 88.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 20.79lbs / 9.43kg shells, 1933 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on centreline, all aft, all raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1933 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
8 - 0.79" / 25.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1933 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 715 lbs / 324 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
10 - 21.0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 2.76" / 70 mm 1.57" / 40 mm 2.76" / 70 mm
2nd: 1.18" / 30 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -
4th: 0.39" / 10 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -

- Conning tower: 2.76" / 70 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 60,758 shp / 45,325 Kw = 36.00 kts
Range 5,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 557 tons

Complement:
216 - 282

Cost:
£1.889 million / $7.557 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 89 tons, 2.7 %
Armour: 80 tons, 2.4 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 66 tons, 2.0 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 13 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 1,605 tons, 48.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,036 tons, 31.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 438 tons, 13.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 40 tons, 1.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
941 lbs / 427 Kg = 9.1 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 0.4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.37
Metacentric height 2.6 ft / 0.8 m
Roll period: 11.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.43
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.03

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.400
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.52 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24.86 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 1.64 ft / 0.50 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 27.07 ft / 8.25 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 20.51 ft / 6.25 m
- Mid (45 %): 20.51 ft / 6.25 m (13.94 ft / 4.25 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 13.94 ft / 4.25 m
- Stern: 13.94 ft / 4.25 m
- Average freeboard: 17.42 ft / 5.31 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 179.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 127.6 %
Waterplane Area: 13,182 Square feet or 1,225 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 75 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 45 lbs/sq ft or 219 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 1.25
- Overall: 0.55
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

10 tons reserved for depth charges and rails

30 tons reserved for mines and growth



HoOmAn

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Wednesday, November 22nd 2006, 12:02am

Do you have a drawing of her? Deckspace seems rare...

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Wednesday, November 22nd 2006, 12:06am

Is actually a Hrolf design originally for Turkey but he offered me the design for construction in Peru. Verify with him if he have a drawing.

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Wednesday, November 22nd 2006, 12:08am



Buy Italian: more power, more speed, more guns



Or a previous export design with 5x152 weatherproof mounts.

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Wednesday, November 22nd 2006, 1:57am

It's basically the same as the German Maas class ships in appearance, trading off a bit of sea-keeping for a higher top speed.