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2.2.2.2 Level 2: Minor Refits (cost = 15%, except for ships of 2,999 t light or less --> 5%)
-Changes to radar: P
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Originally posted by HoOmAn
To me it seems you are preparing a rule change, expecting different levels of modifications with different costs.
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Originally posted by HoOmAn
While probably right from a realism point of view - how to keep that simple? And what will be next? You will need levels for every modification. For example the costs for changes to the superstructure are also fixed - whether you apply a simple balcony to the bridge or an entire new pagoda.
So yes, 15% may be a lot for just changing an antenna, but it keeps the rule as simple as possible.
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Originally posted by Sachmle
seems reasonable, as long as the key word "Existing" is maintained. Any change to a different type of RADAR not just an upgrade of the current type, should still be a 15% job.
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5% refit for "modifications to existing radar systems"
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Originally posted by Sachmle
Perhaps something like:
5% refit for "modernization of existing radar that does not include an increase in size of unit"
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Originally posted by HoOmAn
Something like could be supported: "If there has been no radar onboard before, 15% for new fits on existing vessels, no matter how old (e.g. when thinking about modifications of old ships) If there already has been a radar aboard, 5% for modifications of all kind."
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2.2.2.1 Level 1: Manual Refits (Cost = 5%)
-Changes to existing radar: T
2.2.2.2 Level 2: Minor Refits (cost = 15%, except for ships of 2,999 t light or less --> 5%)
-Addition of radar to unequipped vessel: P
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Originally posted by Brockpaine
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Originally posted by HoOmAn
Something like could be supported: "If there has been no radar onboard before, 15% for new fits on existing vessels, no matter how old (e.g. when thinking about modifications of old ships) If there already has been a radar aboard, 5% for modifications of all kind."
I think that would be tenable and realistic.
In other words:
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2.2.2.1 Level 1: Manual Refits (Cost = 5%)
-Changes to existing radar: T
2.2.2.2 Level 2: Minor Refits (cost = 15%, except for ships of 2,999 t light or less --> 5%)
-Addition of radar to unequipped vessel: P
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Originally posted by thesmilingassassin
Personally, unless I install something I provide reserve tonnage as just that, reserve tonnage rather than stating x amount reserved for radar. Unless 1 ship of the class is acctually built with the radar installed andthe others are not simply because at the time there were not enough sets to be installed.
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Originally posted by thesmilingassassin
Personally, unless I install something I provide reserve tonnage as just that, reserve tonnage rather than stating x amount reserved for radar. Unless 1 ship of the class is acctually built with the radar installed andthe others are not simply because at the time there were not enough sets to be installed.
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Originally posted by thesmilingassassin
Problem is most ships built with reserve tonnage usually DO have that weight included in the build cost, at least I have anyway. I haven't subtracted any reserve misc weight from my ships light tonnage.
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Originally posted by thesmilingassassin
Problem is most ships built with reserve tonnage usually DO have that weight included in the build cost, at least I have anyway. I haven't subtracted any reserve misc weight from my ships light tonnage.
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