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Monday, August 2nd 2004, 2:11am

Mexico?

I find myself with tons of time on my hands, and have to resist going ahead and fixing up several years' worth of Filipino quartery reports. ;) So I was wondering if there would be any dissent to my adding Mexico to my plate?

So as to 'fit in' better, Mexico would only have half of the normal starting allotment (i.e., 5 factories and 15 points); the fleet would start out with the following ships:

1 1891 Cruiser
2 1902 Destroyers
2 1904 Destroyers
1 1908 Armed Transport

If there are no objections, I'll start up Mexico in Q1/25.

The floor is open. Opinons are welcome. Constructive criticism is appreciated. Flames will be used to toast marshmallows. ;)

HoOmAn

Keeper of the Sacred Block Coefficient

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Monday, August 2nd 2004, 9:36am

Regarding Mexico

I understand you wish to use your time usefully but currently I don´t think adding another country would be a wise move. How about enhancing your drawing skills? ;o)

I´d also like to point out that 5/15 seems too much for poor Mexico. IF the majority really likes to see another country added I´d vote for 2/10. That´s still enough to build 1 CL and 2 DDs at a time and I can´t see Mexico having more potential...

....just my 0,02€....

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Monday, August 2nd 2004, 2:59pm

Quoted

I understand you wish to use your time usefully but currently I don´t think adding another country would be a wise move. How about enhancing your drawing skills? ;o)


*snicker* I have plenty of time for both. ;)

I have no idea why, but my drawing skills are simply despicable. Nevertheless, I'll try to start drawing that CDA this afternoon...

As for factories, I'm willing to go with 2/10 for Mexico, assuming of course that nobody has any serious objections to Meheco at all.

And here's what would be the strongest ship in the Mexican navy:


Vincente Guerrero, Mexican armed transport, laid down 1908

Length, 245 ft x Beam, 35.0 ft x Depth, 17.0 ft
1874 tons normal displacement (1649 tons standard)

Main battery: 6 x 4.00-inch / 102mm
QF battery: 2 x 1.57-inch / 40mm (3-pdr)

Weight of broadside: 196 lbs

Hull unarmored

Battery armor:
Main, 0.5" shields


Maximum speed for 1199 ihp = 12.75 knots
Approximate cruising radius, 5000 nm / 10 kts

Typical complement: 142-185


Estimated cost, $367,000 (£92,000)

Remarks:

Good seaboat; rides out heavy weather easily.

Magazines and engineering spaces are roomy, with superior
watertight subdivision.

Cramped ship; poor crew accommodation, limited working space.


Distribution of weights:
Percent
normal
displacement:

Armament ......................... 24 tons = 1 pct
Armor, total ..................... 3 tons = 0 pct

Armament 3 tons = 0 pct

Machinery ........................ 109 tons = 6 pct
Hull and fittings; equipment ..... 958 tons = 51 pct
Fuel, ammunition, stores ......... 279 tons = 15 pct
Miscellaneous weights ............ 500 tons = 27 pct
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1874 tons = 100 pct

Estimated metacentric height, 1.1 ft

Displacement summary:

Light ship: 1595 tons
Standard displacement: 1649 tons
Normal service: 1874 tons
Full load: 2047 tons

Loading submergence 143 tons/foot

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Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:

Relative margin of stability: 1.02

Shellfire needed to sink: 2713 lbs = 84.8 x 4.0-inch shells
(Approximates weight of penetrating
shell hits needed to sink ship,
not counting critical hits)

Torpedoes needed to sink: 1.3
(Approximates number of 'typical'
torpedo hits needed to sink ship)

Relative steadiness as gun platform, 44 percent
(50 percent is 'average')

Relative rocking effect from firing to beam, 0.10

Relative quality as a seaboat: 1.30

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Hull form characteristics:

Block coefficient: 0.45
Sharpness coefficient: 0.35
Hull speed coefficient 'M' = 6.07
'Natural speed' for length = 15.7 knots
Power going to wave formation
at top speed: 33 percent


Estimated hull characteristics and strength:

Relative underwater volume absorbed by
magazines and engineering spaces: 59 percent

Relative accommodation and working space: 60 percent


Displacement factor: 204 percent
(Displacement relative to loading factors)


Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 1.88
(Structure weight per square
foot of hull surface: 105 lbs)

Relative longitudinal hull strength: 4.83
(for 9.0 ft average freeboard;
freeboard adjustment -1.8 ft)

Relative composite hull strength: 2.07

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[Machine-readable parameters: Spring Style v. 1.2.1]

245.00 x 35.00 x 17.00; 9.00 -- Dimensions
0.45 -- Block coefficient
1908 -- Year laid down
12.75 / 5000 / 10.00; Reciprocating -- Speed / radius / cruise
500 tons -- Miscellaneous weights
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6 x 4.00; 0 -- Main battery; turrets
Central positioning of guns
Gun-shields
:
0 -- No secondary battery
2 x 1.57 -- Tertiary (QF/AA) battery
:
0 -- No fourth (light) battery
0 -- No torpedo armament
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0.00 -- No belt armor
0.00 / 0.00 -- Deck / CT
0.50 / 0.00 / 0.00 / 0.00 -- Battery armor


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