WesWorld

While I hate to keep bringing this up, I have a major problem with German infrastructure. What Rocky has been limping along with is in no way a true reflection on German industry and shipbuilding capacity in the inter-war period.

In the 1911-1921 period 14 Battleships and 8 Battlecruisers were either launched or completed, for an infrastructure point total of 220 points, plus the 30 thirty points standard for a total of 250 points.

Industrial production would work out to 10 "free" factories and the 22 factories that go with the capital ships for a total of 32 factories.

Losing Danzig would reduce Infrastructure to 230 and 30 Factories (assuming Danzig was roughly equivalent of the other "Government" yard at Wilhelmshaven).

I only have accurate information that comes out to 158 points of the potential 230 allocated, which leaves 72 points of Infrastructure, approximately one third of the total, unaccounted for.

There were at least 8 small privately owned yards that I don't have information on, which should account for most of this missing infrastructre.

On top of this , the vast majority of the German shipbuilding capacity is in private hands, and was extremely active building merchant shipping in the inter-war period.

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Kiel

Kiel Naval Base*
2 x Type 3 Docks
2 x Type 2 Docks
2 x Type 1 Docks
3 x Type 3 Slips

Private yards
3 x Type 4 Slips
4 x Type 3 Slips
6 x Type 2 Slips

Total Infrastructure : 67
(Incorporates Kiel Naval Base, Krupp Germania, Howaldswerke)
*Government controlled.

Wilhelmshaven*

1 x Type 4 Dock
2 x Type 3 Docks
3 x Type 1 Docks
1 x Type 3 Slip

Total Infrastructure: 22
(Wilhelmshaven Naval Base)
* Government controlled.

Emden

1 x Type 4 Dock
2 x Type 4 Slips
1 x Type 3 Slip
1 x Type 2 Slip

Total Infrastructure: 18
(Nordseewerke)

Bremen

2 x Type 3 Docks
1 x Type 2 Dock
1 x Type 5 Slip
2 x Type 3 Slips
3 x Type 1 Slips

Total Infrastructure: 31
(Incorporates AG Weser, Vulkan Bremer)

Hamburg

1 x Type 5 Dock
1 x Type 5 Slip
1 x Type 4 Slip
1 x Type 3 Slip
2 x Type 1 Slips

Total Infrastructure: 20
(Incrorporates Blohn & Voss, Vulkan Hamberg)

Overall Infrastructure: 158

From what I can tell from the infrastructure rules, lost production goes straight into the civilian economy.

Either way, I beleive that in WesWorld, reparations were discontinued in 1923.

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Originally posted by HoOmAn
There should be some posts somewhere explaining what happened to all th ose factories and yards. Could take some time to find it, though....

IIRC we agreed that Germany would loose those factories and slips due to reparations and lack of maintenance etc.

The Doc should be able to explain that in detail, methinks.

Would you like me to rename Germany Grand Fenwick as well?

Infrastructure wise, I would suggest a slow ramp up to 1914 levels of production (minus Danzig), with a new factory coming on-line after retooling every quarter from Q1 1927. This would be a lot smoother ramp up in production with 1000 tons of industrial production added each quarter, so that a years production increase would look like Q1 1000t, Q2 2000t, Q3 3000t and Q4 4000t, for a total increase of 10,000t per year until it reached pre-war levels.

Drydocks and building slips are a different matter. While the factories would have been fully occupied with civilian production, a large percentage of the slips would have been totally idle in the post-war due to lack of work. I think that these slips and drydocks would need work to bring them back to a usable state, though not as much as it would cost to build new ones.

By allowing the Factories to gradually come on line as they are re-tooled, it means that I would have to spend part of this increased production to refurbish the building facilities before they can be used for shipbuilding. What those cost ratios are, I have no idea, but it retains the German "Industrial Powerhouse" feel, but still has ground to recover with the infrastructure...