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Canadian news, Q1 1937

After a year of repairs and modernization, Battlecruisers Renown and Repulse have returned to the fleet, with the RCN pronouncing them as fast, modern, capable combatants. Also expected to complete in early April, battleships Canada and Excelsior, and carriers Courageous and Glorious. Future expansion of the RCN has been announced with the laying down of 4 keels for large warships being desginated as Frigates, estimated to be in the 17-19 thousand ton range.

With RCN major units coming back into service, Battleships HMS Ramilles and HMS Resolution have been formally returned to the Royal Navy, complete with (as promised) a full load of fuel oil.

The Canadian Foreign Office has announced that the RCN detachment, including HMCS Canada, HMCS Excelsior, HMCS Renown, HMCS Repulse, HMCS Courageous, HMCS Glorious, and escorts to the pacific Fleet Problem in May will be making a goodwill tour through the Americas and around Cape Horn in the company of deatchments from other NATO fleets, including the United States, Lantean, and Royal Navies. Exact ports-of-call have not yet been announced, but expected to be plentiful. After the excersizes are concluded, Battleships Canada, Excelsior, carrier Glorious and escorts are intending to return to Halifax via the Pacific and Indian oceans to complete a global circumnavigation cruise. (Anyone interested in a port visit, leave a reply or PM me. (: More details to follow)

After several months of diminished activity, major work has resumed on the two Polar Navigation ships under construction at Canadian Vickers. Construction work had been delayed due to the unexpected need to repair and modernize the battlecruisers last year.

Various unexplained sightings of "unnatural" things in the skies over Malton continue, with reports moving from talk of discs to 'batwings' and 'insect-like' craft. Not to be outdone, reports of the common and continual sounds of quick-succession gunfire and the occasional explosion continue to eminate from ShinRa Munitions in Halifax.

An image has been released of the pair of airships currently under construction at the recently renamed Highwind Aerodrome at St. Hubert;

Experts view the ships as first-rate, comparable or superior to other ships currently in service, with a length between 900 and 950 feet, and capable of embarking a 12-plane squadron of trapeeze-equipped aircraft. Both ships are expected to complete later this year.

In related news, the RCN has purchased 8 G-class blimps from the Goodyear corporation, with rumors of domestic production of similar vehicles to come in the next year.

"Experts view the ships as large, very expensive and slowly moving targets."

The Globe and Mail
January 7th, 1937
TORONTO, ONTARIO

A large section of Long Branch has been closed off under by elements of the Royal Canadian Army, centered around a salvage yard known as "Goat's Junkyard" for the past week, only being lifted late last evening. Local resident Charles Cooplowski was interviewed by our reporters, and had numerous statements about a discovery he made in the yard while looking for automobile components, relating the find as "Extremely Large", and unlike anything he'd seen in the yard previously. Another bystander, only identified as "James" also mentioned that he was a frequent visitor to the yard, and surmised that the find was not there at his last visit, sometime last year. Both men were promptly lead away by authorities, and has been unable to be reached for further comment.

(Bonus points to anyone who picks up on this...)

MIB?

NO GIANT ROPBOTS!!!!

But...

Chicks dig giant robots.

What's the point of having nukes if you can't use them?

-ShinRa On-the-lam
Pembroke Pines FL

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Originally posted by ShinRa_Inc
But...

Chicks dig giant robots.

Especially Wrench Wenches!

Halifax Chronicle-Herald
March 28th, 1931
HALIFAX, N.S.

Elements of the Royal Canadian Navy's Home Fleet departed today on a historical Goodwill Circumnavigation Cruise, with a break at Hawaii to participate in the scheduled NATO Fleet Problem. Known as the Special Service squadron, it will include elements of the United States, Lantean, Mexican, and British Royal Navies during various legs;



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28 March 1937 - Halifax, NS
30 March 1937 - Norfolk, VA
2 April 1937 - Maracaibo, Venezuela
5 April 1937 - Lycabettus, Atlantis
9 April 1937 - Georgetown, Ascension Island
14 April 1937 - Capetown, SAE
20 April 1937 - Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
22 April 1937 - Buenos Aires/Montevideo (?)
24 April 1937 - Bahia Blanca, Argentia
26 April 1937 - Stanley, Falkland Islands
28 April 1937 - Valparaiso, Chile
1 May 1937 - Lima, Peru (?)
5-12 May 1937 - Honolulu, Hawaii
18 May 1937 - Yokosuka, Japan
20 May 1937 - Vladivostok, Russia
23 May 1937 - Hong Kong, China
25 May 1937 - Singapore, Malaya
28 May 1937 - Trincomalee, Ceylon
3 June 1937 - Alexandria, Egypt
5 June 1937 - Valetta, Malta
7 June 1937 - Gibraltar
10 June 1937 - Cowes, GB
14 June 1937 - Cobh, Ireland
19 June 1937 - Halifax, NS[/SIZE]

Round Trip
1st Battle Squadron
- Vice-Admiral J.P. Hanson
BB Canada
BB Excelsior


3rd Carrier Squadron
- Rear-Admiral William Ross
CV Glorious
CL Nova Scotia
CL New Brunswick
DD Huron
DD Haida
DD Nootka
DD Micmac

6th Cruiser Squadron
CL Argyll
CL Achilles
CL Adventure
CL Aurora

Halifax/Norfolk to San Diego/Esquimalt
BC Renown
BC Repulse
CV Courageous
CV Yorktown
CA Augusta
CL Concord
CL Trenton
CL Marblehead
CL Cleveland

Terminating at Honolulu
BB Philomedes (Pacific Fleet)
BC Glory (Pacific Fleet)
CV Alioth
CL Acestus
CLAA Zerberus
DD's Joust, Jubilant, Judge, Juggernaut

BB Agincourt
BB Nile
CV Majestic
CV Warrior

Honolulu to Halifax
CVL Cinco de Mayo
CA Pancho Villa
CL Hermosillo
CL Merida


OOC Notes
I PM'd Tanthalas about a visit to Peru a while back, never got a reply. Rather than continue waiting, I'm assuming there's no problem and he's just a busy fellow atm.

I do have a general request for my fellow players; I'm a bit swamped between offline issues and having to write up the Fleet problem, so I'm not going to be able to write up port visits; If the various hot players could just include some mentions in their own news, it'd be appreciated.

...has been called back to active duty, as far as anyone can tell, so he'll be unavailable for a while.

Just curious. What is the average travelling speed of your fleet? Comparing the journey of your ships with the I-400 journey, I get the impression that (with all those stops, especially the 8 day stop at Honolulu) it must be quite high (my guess would be >22 knots, though it depends how long you'll be staying that the various ports).

Around 20 knots; admittedly faster than normal cruise speeds, part of the justification of the cruise is to demonstrate the ability for sustained high-speed cruising. Honestly, I didn't do much in the way of actual math, I just went off some figures I remembered for transit times when I recently read Stillwell's books on the New Jersey and Missouri's careers. Basing the times on the Hood & Renown's historical cruise would probably be more accurate, but that would've had the cruise taking up pretty much the entire year.

I-400 seems a poor comparison; A wartime submarine cruise with a max speed of 18 knots surfaced, 6 knots submerged will tend to take more time than a peacetime transit cruise comprised of generally modern fast combatants (the oldest ships participating are your own Hosho and the USN Columbias)

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Originally posted by ShinRa_Inc

I do have a general request for my fellow players; I'm a bit swamped between offline issues and having to write up the Fleet problem, so I'm not going to be able to write up port visits; If the various hot players could just include some mentions in their own news, it'd be appreciated.

Looks at list... nothing for me to do..so
Done!

I am surprised that Canada decided to change the soverienty of the Crowns Asian holdings.

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Originally posted by Kaiser Kirk
I am surprised that Canada decided to change the soverienty of the Crowns Asian holdings.

China and Malaya are included for geographic reference, not any ominous political reasons; This was a news item from a local paper, not a government document.

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Around 20 knots; admittedly faster than normal cruise speeds, part of the justification of the cruise is to demonstrate the ability for sustained high-speed cruising. Honestly, I didn't do much in the way of actual math, I just went off some figures I remembered for transit times when I recently read Stillwell's books on the New Jersey and Missouri's careers. Basing the times on the Hood & Renown's historical cruise would probably be more accurate, but that would've had the cruise taking up pretty much the entire year.

I-400 seems a poor comparison; A wartime submarine cruise with a max speed of 18 knots surfaced, 6 knots submerged will tend to take more time than a peacetime transit cruise comprised of generally modern fast combatants (the oldest ships participating are your own Hosho and the USN Columbias)

Actually, I-400 is on her shakedown cruise and is going around the world without making a single fuel stop. Due to that (and since it makes things easier for me to calculate), she's sticking to an average of 14 knots. I-400's Halifax-Yokosuka (non-stop) trip is 8000nm shorter than yours (18642nm vs 26366nm). She passes Halifax 18 days before the departure of your fleet, yet despite the massive detour of your fleet and all the many stops, your ships arrive 13 days after I-400 at Yokosuka.

Some rough calculations... subtracting the time of all your stops from the total travelling time, you're looking at an average of 22.2 knots for the section between Halifax and Yokosuka. At that average speed, your DDs have a range of 1500nm which might be a little bit of a problem as Capetown-Rio de Janeiro is about 3200nm, Lima-Honolulu 5150nm and Honolulu-Yokosuka 3350nm. Some of the CLs have the same problem with the range.

Might be an idea to attach an oiler to the group... or leave those short-ranged ships at home.

The Chilean Navy quickly loads up the Península Tres Montes and Araucano with oil, and offers to help the NATO fleet during it's time in the southeastern Pacific.

This disguises their devious purpose: to practice UNREP operations with somebody who actually knows what they're doing.

Nordmark offers the services of the oiler Sandefjord attached to the South Atlantic fleet to aid the NATO fleet, though admits that a safe anchorage may be required to aid its use.

No doubt the Canadians will turn down any offers from the Philippines.

Atlantis will have the tankers Seahorse and Seabird, between them 10,000 tons of fuel and a 10,000 nm range at 15 knots, with a top speed of 20ish knots. Their sister ship, Sea lark could also be thrown in if needed as she is based in the Caribbean while her sisters are in the Pacific.

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Originally posted by Rooijen10
Actually, I-400 is on her shakedown cruise and is going around the world without making a single fuel stop. Due to that (and since it makes things easier for me to calculate), she's sticking to an average of 14 knots. I-400's Halifax-Yokosuka (non-stop) trip is 8000nm shorter than yours (18642nm vs 26366nm). She passes Halifax 18 days before the departure of your fleet, yet despite the massive detour of your fleet and all the many stops, your ships arrive 13 days after I-400 at Yokosuka.

Our ships aren't spending a few days submerged and lurking around ports dodging traffic... (which reminds me, Canada is not liable for any damage that occurs to uninvited submarines within our territorial waters...)

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Originally posted by Rooijen10
Some rough calculations... subtracting the time of all your stops from the total travelling time, you're looking at an average of 22.2 knots for the section between Halifax and Yokosuka. At that average speed, your DDs have a range of 1500nm which might be a little bit of a problem as Capetown-Rio de Janeiro is about 3200nm, Lima-Honolulu 5150nm and Honolulu-Yokosuka 3350nm. Some of the CLs have the same problem with the range.

The only DDs involved are the Iroquois class DDs; 4000nm at 15 knots, and Lantean J class; 5400nm at 15 kts . I don't think the efficiency dropoff is quite that drastic at 20-22 knots. Regardless...

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Originally posted by Rooijen10
Might be an idea to attach an oiler to the group... or leave those short-ranged ships at home.

The RCN and NATO commands thank the Chilean and Nordmark governments for their offers. Fortunately, the Lantean Navy will be providing two tankers to support the cruise.

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Originally posted by ShinRa_Inc

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Originally posted by Rooijen10
Some rough calculations... subtracting the time of all your stops from the total travelling time, you're looking at an average of 22.2 knots for the section between Halifax and Yokosuka. At that average speed, your DDs have a range of 1500nm which might be a little bit of a problem as Capetown-Rio de Janeiro is about 3200nm, Lima-Honolulu 5150nm and Honolulu-Yokosuka 3350nm. Some of the CLs have the same problem with the range.

The only DDs involved are the Iroquois class DDs; 4000nm at 15 knots, and Lantean J class; 5400nm at 15 kts . I don't think the efficiency dropoff is quite that drastic at 20-22 knots. Regardless...

You might be surprised. I tend to check such things, and for a Chilean Eyzaguirre (Atlantean K-class, basically a long J-class) I drop from 5,400 nm at 15 knots to 2,138nm at 22 knots.

I've also charted out in more detail my Kysutendil-class DDLs:
Range 12,820nm at 10.00 kts
Range 5,500nm at 15.00 kts
Range 2,840nm at 20.00 kts
Range 1,610nm at 25.00 kts
Range 975nm at 30.00 kts
Range 620nm at 35.00 kts

It looks like a good rule-of-thumb to say that for every five knots of speed, cut your range by one third to one half. Not scientific, but hey, that's just what I'm figuring out.