WesWorld

Fooling around with SS2. I tought, how would a weaworld version of the Big Light Cruisers look?
I came up with this:



WWS Phoenix, WesWorld Super Light Cruiser laid down 1935

Displacement:
12,554 t light; 13,114 t standard; 14,891 t normal; 16,313 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
657.09 ft / 650.00 ft x 65.00 ft x 24.00 ft (normal load)
200.28 m / 198.12 m x 19.81 m x 7.32 m

Armament:
21 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (7x3 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1935 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 3 raised mounts - superfiring
20 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns (10x2 guns), 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1935 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts
24 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (3x8 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1935 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on centreline, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts
12 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (6x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1935 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 2,958 lbs / 1,342 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
12 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5.90" / 150 mm 420.00 ft / 128.02 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 99 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 5.90" / 150 mm 2.90" / 74 mm 5.90" / 150 mm
2nd: 1.20" / 30 mm - -

- Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 4.00" / 102 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 115,887 shp / 86,451 Kw = 34.00 kts
Range 12,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,199 tons

Complement:
673 - 876

Cost:
£6.164 million / $24.658 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 370 tons, 2.5 %
Armour: 3,184 tons, 21.4 %
- Belts: 1,033 tons, 6.9 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 1,002 tons, 6.7 %
- Armour Deck: 1,097 tons, 7.4 %
- Conning Tower: 52 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 3,292 tons, 22.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,657 tons, 38.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,338 tons, 15.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 0.3 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
18,929 lbs / 8,586 Kg = 175.3 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 2.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 3.2 ft / 1.0 m
Roll period: 15.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.58
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.01

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.514
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 29.05 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 9.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 2.50 ft / 0.76 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 29.00 ft / 8.84 m
- Forecastle (17 %): 21.50 ft / 6.55 m
- Mid (50 %): 21.50 ft / 6.55 m
- Quarterdeck (19 %): 21.50 ft / 6.55 m
- Stern: 21.50 ft / 6.55 m
- Average freeboard: 22.01 ft / 6.71 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 91.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 145.2 %
Waterplane Area: 29,661 Square feet or 2,756 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 117 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 118 lbs/sq ft or 578 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.38
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent


What do you guys think?

Wooops!! Looks like some confidential information leaked out!

She wont be able to use all that firepower as the arcs are too restricted for 3 turrets.

Australian megalomania is back!

If I can add a drawing critique, I'd say that the main turrets are way too, uh, flat. Depending on your scale, I'd say they're only about five feet high.

I dunno. I'd stick with the bigger, nastier guns on a ship this big.

Aaaargh!

"The Return of the Turret Farms"

Seriously, you need to work on your drawing as The Doc already pointed out.

It helps when you take an existing line drawing of a ship and shrink it to the same scale of your picture and then compare the sizes.

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Aaaargh!

"The Return of the Turret Farms"

Hmmm...
The Manzo Menace
Attack of the Twin Hull Carrier
Revenge of the Airships
A New Hope... for Wesworld
Australia Strikes Back
Return of the Turret Farms

I better fire those censors. Letting such a slip, like the actual ship name!

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Seriously, you need to work on your drawing as The Doc already pointed out

One of my reasons for coming here. Altougth much better than my earlier ones, it can always use some improvement. So keep up pointing faults. Theres no better way to learn than "on the job".

Note: Drawing modified.

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I dunno. I'd stick with the bigger, nastier guns on a ship this big

Its basiclly a design excercise. Unless the Treaty gets changed, or Australia gets 1,000,000T cruiser tonnage (I can dream cant I), I wont build it. Or maybe I should, its an excellent ship for showing the flag. A reusable Fillipino fireworks maker?

Gotta admit, a full broadside from that ship will look impressive.

It ain't awful...tho (as usual) I'd switch around the DP and AA mounts aft. ;-)

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Hmmm...
The Manzo Menace
Attack of the Twin Hull Carrier
Revenge of the Airships
A New Hope... for Wesworld
Australia Strikes Back
Return of the Turret Farms

LOL good one!

Nothing wrong with design exercises. I'll be posting a 10,000 t super CL in a few days myself.

It would be an impressive sight, I agree, and in a night action with an enemy close off the beam, it'd be a destructive occasion as well.

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Originally posted by The Rock Doctor
Nothing wrong with design exercises. I'll be posting a 10,000 t super CL in a few days myself.

It would be an impressive sight, I agree, and in a night action with an enemy close off the beam, it'd be a destructive occasion as well.

It would surely look like another BLAM (tm) exercise.....

With that many barrels, wouldn't it be more of a THOOM! sound?

It's got one less turret then the Capitan Tylor has. However it also has five more guns then Tylor has, and could train then all on a broadside, where Tylor can only train six turrets at a time. Of course Tylor is an "Heavy" Armored Cruiser to be fitted with modern 8 inch guns, using an out of date layout design.

I did attempt a ship like this for 8 inch guns....I don't recall what I did with it....or did I use twins and eight centerline turrets....

Another nit on the pic:
The main gun barrels have been flattened by a giant. Two pixels thick on the side view and 1 pixel thick on the top view.

Looks like some one tried to shrink the Agincourt BB.
Maybe that's one way to stay in treaty limits - change your 7 turret BB to a 7 turret cruiser!

Maybe, but you will miss the punching power a BB has.

21 x 8 inch verses 14 x 12 inch? hmmmm.

21 slaps versus 14 punches...

21 Jabs versus 14 Haymakers...

21 Woo! chops versus 14 rolling German suplexes.

In all those instances, I know what my choice would be.