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Originally posted by AdmKuznetsov
And dumping ~600 tons of coal makes a lot of things possible.

Not really. Removing weight from the sides of the hull doesn't compensate for adding stuff up on top.

I agree with Brock. Old, basically useless. Just beach her and put some simple mounts the army can use instead.

There's some scope for that tradeoff, depending on where the bunkerage is: you might get 50-100 tonnes of topweight like that, but she's likely to be quite a stiff seaboat and have poor damaged stability. Those might be considered acceptable tradeoffs for a ship supporting a coastal squadron, though I wouldn't bother myself. This ship is what, 25 years old? After that long in service, even with regular refits, she'll be in a pretty poor state: primary hull structure will have experienced rather a lot of fatigue and the machinery will be in a pretty bad state. Again, you might get away with it in sheltered waters, but it's a risk: one of these days, she's liable to suffer some form of calamity.

He's getting new engines....as for the hull plating, its in the Baltic, where heavy weather shouldn't be that bad.

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Originally posted by TexanCowboy
its in the Baltic, where heavy weather shouldn't be that bad.

The Baltic has storms just like every other sea.

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Originally posted by TexanCowboy
He's getting new engines....as for the hull plating, its in the Baltic, where heavy weather shouldn't be that bad.

The Baltic may be an enclosed sea, but it's still quite large so (when not solid, see below) can get quite respectable seas up. Also, the Finnish-Swedish Ice Class Rules rules form the basis of much of the world's rules for seasonal icebreakers and ships which operate in ice: this isn't a coincidence.

In any case, I did say that this is a tradeoff that might be thought acceptable, although I wouldn't take it myself. It's quite telling that 20 to 25 years is generally considered the 'natural' life of a ship.

But by comparison to, say, the North Atlantic, they aren't that severe.

Seems to Russia has been done, looks like a dodgy second-hand car dealer manager tarted her up and had some slick chat to get the Russians to buy the Birkenhead.

Really I can't see why Russia which has ample home-grown capacity and more modern designs wasting time and resources on this elderly ship.

To operate radars she'll need more generator capacity plus lots of internal space to store all those valves and black boxes and some kind of CIC to make sense of the radar data and feeding that to a fire-control predictor. Really Russia should scrap it and recover what it can from the wreckage.

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Seems to Russia has been done, looks like a dodgy second-hand car dealer manager tarted her up and had some slick chat to get the Russians to buy the Birkenhead.

Helping out a client in a pinch, you know how it goes.

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{Shin} I'll point out that when I first ended up with the Chesters, I discussed modernizing them (and the Hawkins), and the board's consensus was that both classes would not take extensive modifications well. And that was before I spent another 10 years or so using them as training ships during the RCN's major period of expansion.

Didn't recall this thread. Good points.

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{RLBH} This ship is what, 25 years old? After that long in service, even with regular refits, she'll be in a pretty poor state: primary hull structure will have experienced rather a lot of fatigue and the machinery will be in a pretty bad state. Again, you might get away with it in sheltered waters, but it's a risk: one of these days, she's liable to suffer some form of calamity.

More good points. I can take off some of the high tech and hull strain.

1st Battle Division still could use an AAA escort, and a training ship is always needed. 1st Battle Division only goes 18 knots, so a 10 knot speed advantage should allow Rynda to interpose herself against an aerial threat.

Rynda, former British Light Cruiser Birkenhead laid down 1914 (Engine 1940)

Displacement:
5,147 t light; 5,447 t standard; 5,887 t normal; 6,240 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
446.74 ft / 430.00 ft x 49.75 ft x 17.20 ft (normal load)
136.17 m / 131.06 m x 15.16 m x 5.24 m

Armament:
6 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (2x3 guns), 79.37lbs / 36.00kg shells, 1940 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread
6 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns in single mounts, 79.37lbs / 36.00kg shells, 1940 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1940 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts
8 - 0.55" / 14.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 0.08lbs / 0.04kg shells, 1940 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 978 lbs / 444 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 300

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.46" / 88 mm 318.24 ft / 97.00 m 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
Ends: 2.52" / 64 mm 108.27 ft / 33.00 m 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
3.49 ft / 1.06 m Unarmoured ends
Main Belt covers 114 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.20" / 5 mm 1.18" / 30 mm
2nd: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.20" / 5 mm 1.18" / 30 mm
3rd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm 0.98" / 25 mm

- Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 42,653 shp / 31,819 Kw = 28.00 kts
Range 5,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 793 tons

Complement:
335 - 436

Cost:
£0.543 million / $2.174 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 104 tons, 1.8 %
Armour: 1,264 tons, 21.5 %
- Belts: 669 tons, 11.4 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 38 tons, 0.6 %
- Armour Deck: 558 tons, 9.5 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 1,140 tons, 19.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,334 tons, 39.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 740 tons, 12.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 305 tons, 5.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
9,628 lbs / 4,367 Kg = 143.6 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 1.5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
Metacentric height 2.2 ft / 0.7 m
Roll period: 14.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.65
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.50

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low quarterdeck
Block coefficient: 0.560
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.64 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 20.74 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 61 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 47
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 29.00 ft / 8.84 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 22.30 ft / 6.80 m
- Mid (50 %): 22.30 ft / 6.80 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 14.30 ft / 4.36 m (22.30 ft / 6.80 m before break)
- Stern: 14.30 ft / 4.36 m
- Average freeboard: 21.64 ft / 6.59 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 84.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 191.1 %
Waterplane Area: 15,070 Square feet or 1,400 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 126 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 82 lbs/sq ft or 399 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.87
- Longitudinal: 3.41
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Twin 130mm semiautomatic mounts simmed as triples

Air search Radar - 10 tons
Antiaircraft fire control radar - 10 tons
CIC - 100 tons
Diesel generators - 10 tons
Spare parts - 25 tons
Classrooms etc for use as a training ship - 150 tons

Draft declines by 0.3ft, and freeboard increases by same, due to lightened load.

Hey, I sold it for under scrap value! He could of scrapped it and made a 150 ton profit.

That's about the same as mine.

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{Shin} I'll point out that when I first ended up with the Chesters, I discussed modernizing them (and the Hawkins), and the board's consensus was that both classes would not take extensive modifications well. And that was before I spent another 10 years or so using them as training ships during the RCN's major period of expansion.

Didn't recall this thread. Good points.

http://wesworld.jk-clan.de/thread.php?si…27433#post27433

that's the original thread for the Chester discussion here, can't find the similar one for the Hawkins. There was also more extensive discussion over on WPDB at the time, as well.

Spain rebuilt an old cruiser, a half sister to the British C-class, the Mendez Nunez. To an AA cruiser in 1944.
This link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blas_de_Lezo_class_cruiser

This destroyer is optimized for fleet air defense, though she can conduct other duties. Twelve will be laid down.

Pechora class, Russian Destroyer laid down 1940

Displacement:
2,106 t light; 2,241 t standard; 2,540 t normal; 2,779 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
409.99 ft / 393.70 ft x 37.40 ft x 15.09 ft (normal load)
124.96 m / 120.00 m x 11.40 m x 4.60 m

Armament:
6 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (3x2 guns), 79.37lbs / 36.00kg shells, 1940 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
4 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (1x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1940 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in a deck mount with hoist
on centreline aft, all raised guns - superfiring
8 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1940 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread
4 - 0.55" / 14.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.08lbs / 0.04kg shells, 1940 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 495 lbs / 225 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 300
8 - 20.9" / 530 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -
2nd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -
3rd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 49,907 shp / 37,231 Kw = 35.00 kts
Range 4,000nm at 18.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 538 tons

Complement:
178 - 232

Cost:
£1.746 million / $6.983 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 63 tons, 2.5 %
Armour: 13 tons, 0.5 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 13 tons, 0.5 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 1,176 tons, 46.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 753 tons, 29.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 434 tons, 17.1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 101 tons, 4.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
644 lbs / 292 Kg = 9.6 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 0.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
Metacentric height 1.4 ft / 0.4 m
Roll period: 13.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.74
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.01

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.400
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.53 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22.85 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 66 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 27.89 ft / 8.50 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 19.69 ft / 6.00 m
- Mid (49 %): 19.36 ft / 5.90 m (11.15 ft / 3.40 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 11.15 ft / 3.40 m
- Stern: 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Average freeboard: 16.09 ft / 4.90 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 174.5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 94.5 %
Waterplane Area: 9,407 Square feet or 874 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 77 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 40 lbs/sq ft or 197 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 1.86
- Overall: 0.57
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Air search radar - 10 tons
Extra machinery and ammo for twin automatic 130mm DP mounts - 30 tons
Asdic - 10 tons
ASW weapons and torpedos - 51 tons

This class of armored cruisers will conduct similar missions as the Admiral Makarov and Sviatoslav classes, and will provide sufficient number of armored cruisers to operate in all the seas Russia has interests.

Names:
Ilya Muromets
Dobrina Nikitich
Alexei Popovich
Igor Sviatoslavich

Displacement:
14,077 t light; 14,840 t standard; 17,333 t normal; 19,327 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
739.21 ft / 721.78 ft x 71.19 ft (Bulges 75.46 ft) x 22.97 ft (normal load)
225.31 m / 220.00 m x 21.70 m (Bulges 23.00 m) x 7.00 m

Armament:
9 - 9.21" / 234 mm guns (3x3 guns), 440.92lbs / 200.00kg shells, 1940 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward
4 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (2x2 guns), 79.37lbs / 36.00kg shells, 1940 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts
12 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns (6x2 guns), 37.48lbs / 17.00kg shells, 1940 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
32 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (16x2 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1940 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread, 8 raised mounts
12 - 0.55" / 14.0 mm guns (6x2 guns), 0.08lbs / 0.04kg shells, 1940 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 4,786 lbs / 2,171 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 6.69" / 170 mm 426.51 ft / 130.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 91 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 7.87" / 200 mm 3.15" / 80 mm 5.91" / 150 mm
2nd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -
3rd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -
4th: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -

- Armour deck: 2.95" / 75 mm, Conning tower: 7.87" / 200 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 96,369 shp / 71,891 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 10,800nm at 18.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 4,487 tons

Complement:
754 - 981

Cost:
£7.849 million / $31.394 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 541 tons, 3.1 %
Armour: 3,861 tons, 22.3 %
- Belts: 1,184 tons, 6.8 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 645 tons, 3.7 %
- Armour Deck: 1,918 tons, 11.1 %
- Conning Tower: 114 tons, 0.7 %
Machinery: 2,577 tons, 14.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 6,933 tons, 40.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,256 tons, 18.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 165 tons, 1.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
25,890 lbs / 11,743 Kg = 66.2 x 9.2 " / 234 mm shells or 2.9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.19
Metacentric height 4.1 ft / 1.3 m
Roll period: 15.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.48
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.20

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.485
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.57 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 30.82 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 29.86 ft / 9.10 m
- Forecastle (30 %): 19.03 ft / 5.80 m
- Mid (50 %): 17.39 ft / 5.30 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 18.70 ft / 5.70 m
- Stern: 20.34 ft / 6.20 m
- Average freeboard: 19.89 ft / 6.06 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 74.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 160.6 %
Waterplane Area: 35,115 Square feet or 3,262 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 128 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 131 lbs/sq ft or 640 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.99
- Longitudinal: 1.09
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Twin 130mm automatic mounts-20 tons
Twin 100mm automatic mounts-30 tons

Air search radar-10 tons
Surface search radar - 10 tons
Main battery fire control radar-10 tons
Secondary battery fire control radar -10 tons
Antiaircraft battery fire control radars (2)-20 tons

2 seaplanes, 1 catapult - 50 tons

Why have a 130 mm battery and a 100 mm battery on the same ship? It just complicates logistics, and it doesn't add that much to the ship. I would recommend removing the 130 mm's and replacing each twin mount with two twin 100 mm, with two on the turrets and two on the broadside.

It would also be a bit tight on the broadside with another 100mm mount to fit in.

Then add in 6 100 mm, all on the turrets?

They're on the superstructure behind the turrets, with their own ammo hoist.

RF Naval staff concluded from dire fate of RSAN Hammer that aircraft carrier groups require a heavy escort. Khranitel can also protect carriers from aerial threats. Khranitel will be laid down in 1940, with another laid down in 1941.

Khranitel, Russian Carrier group escort laid down 1940

Displacement:
23,395 t light; 24,653 t standard; 28,550 t normal; 31,667 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
737.93 ft / 721.78 ft x 82.02 ft (Bulges 91.21 ft) x 31.17 ft (normal load)
224.92 m / 220.00 m x 25.00 m (Bulges 27.80 m) x 9.50 m

Armament:
6 - 14.02" / 356 mm guns (3x2 guns), 1,653.47lbs / 750.00kg shells, 1940 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward
4 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (2x2 guns), 79.37lbs / 36.00kg shells, 1940 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
20 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (10x2 guns), 79.37lbs / 36.00kg shells, 1940 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread, 4 raised mounts
64 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (16x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1940 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread, 6 raised mounts
8 - 0.55" / 14.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 0.08lbs / 0.04kg shells, 1940 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 11,926 lbs / 5,409 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 9.84" / 250 mm 459.32 ft / 140.00 m 11.48 ft / 3.50 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 98 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
1.57" / 40 mm 459.32 ft / 140.00 m 30.18 ft / 9.20 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 11.8" / 300 mm 7.87" / 200 mm 9.45" / 240 mm
2nd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm 0.79" / 20 mm
3rd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm 0.79" / 20 mm
4th: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -

- Armour deck: 4.72" / 120 mm, Conning tower: 9.84" / 250 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 102,198 shp / 76,240 Kw = 30.00 kts
Range 12,800nm at 18.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 7,014 tons

Complement:
1,097 - 1,427

Cost:
£13.691 million / $54.764 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1,286 tons, 4.5 %
Armour: 8,283 tons, 29.0 %
- Belts: 2,192 tons, 7.7 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 808 tons, 2.8 %
- Armament: 1,543 tons, 5.4 %
- Armour Deck: 3,542 tons, 12.4 %
- Conning Tower: 198 tons, 0.7 %
Machinery: 2,733 tons, 9.6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 10,843 tons, 38.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5,155 tons, 18.1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 250 tons, 0.9 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
40,254 lbs / 18,259 Kg = 29.2 x 14.0 " / 356 mm shells or 6.6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
Metacentric height 4.6 ft / 1.4 m
Roll period: 17.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.66
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.20

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.487
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.91 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 31.31 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 4.92 ft / 1.50 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 30.84 ft / 9.40 m
- Forecastle (25 %): 20.67 ft / 6.30 m
- Mid (50 %): 19.03 ft / 5.80 m
- Quarterdeck (17 %): 19.69 ft / 6.00 m
- Stern: 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Average freeboard: 20.99 ft / 6.40 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 88.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 137.7 %
Waterplane Area: 40,529 Square feet or 3,765 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 118 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 172 lbs/sq ft or 840 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.96
- Longitudinal: 1.43
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily


12 Twin 130mm automatic mounts-10 tons misc weight each

Air search radar-10 tons
Surface search radar - 10 tons
Main battery fire control radar-10 tons
Secondary battery fire control radar -10 tons
Antiaircraft battery fire control radars (2)-20 tons
2 seaplanes, 1 catapult - 50 tons
Reserved for other uses - 20 tons

Ok, so that proves both me and Brock right....

Looks like Russia really intends to be quite heavy on light capital ships. Why is this? This is almost an old fashioned BC of Great War vintage....