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On the middle 30s Greece start a program for the refit & reclass of the old armoured cruiser "Georgios Averof" (laid down 1910) as a Heavy Cruiser & Trainning ship!!!



The main requirements are:
Replacement of the main armament (2x2x9,2") with 2X3X8" guns
Replacement of secondary armament (4x2x7,5") with
4x2x4" double porpose guns
Addition of secondary A/A armament
Conversion of the coal firing engines to oil firing engines & increase of the speed from 23 kts to 26 kts at least!
Reconstruction of the bow
Reconstruction & reduction of the 3 funnels to 2 or 1
Installation of new range finding & communication systems.

I have a pre-plan of how the ship is going to look after the refit but i would like some more sugestions from you guys!
Any help is acceptable!!!

I think it would be GREAT

Here´s a fast kitbash i did of an Averof partial modernisation. Bow modified as Swedens Manligheten, some boilers repleced with oilfired, the 2 fore funnels trunked together, light guns replaced with 40mm and 20mm anti aircraftguns.




Pic by Navarchos, modiefied by me with Navarchos parts.

I made this kitbash retaining the orginal guns, im not sure that a twin 9,2 inch(23,4cm) barbette can hold a
triple 8 inch(20,3cm) turret. But it can still be a good training ship both for coal stokers and oil stokers, cadets and junior officers, and also retaining a combat capability.

I agree with Johan that the the twin 9,2'' barbette can't house a Triplet 8" turret so i reduse them to 2 8" guns per turret!
I replace the 4 twin turret on the sides of 7,5" with 4 twin of 4" double porpose guns!
4 twin 40mm A/A guns installed at the sides!
On the top of the main guns turrets installed 2 quadruplet 7,92mm A/A MGs
New fire directors & communications system also installed
Also replaced the old coal firing boilers with new oil firing which in combination with the bow reconstruction gave plus 4 kts
With the new boilers it became possible to reduce the 3 funnels to 1 big funnel

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9739/1932.png

Guys still i'm not pleased from the look of the forward mast...any sugestions???

Why, I think I looks awesome

Sorry for the deay, here's my offering. The only displacement I could find didn't say what it was, so I made it normal. As it's a school ship I added twin beam TT's for the trainees. Overall not a bad design.

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Georigos Averof refit, Greece Armored Cruiser laid down 1910 (Engine 1930)

Displacement:
8,942 t light; 9,131 t standard; 9,457 t normal; 9,718 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
464.74 ft / 459.30 ft x 75.50 ft x 23.00 ft (normal load)
141.65 m / 139.99 m x 23.01 m x 7.01 m

Armament:
4 - 8.00" / 203 mm guns (2x2 guns), 256.00lbs / 116.12kg shells, 1935 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread
8 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns (4x2 guns), 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1935 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread
12 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (6x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1935 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
12 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1935 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns (2x2 guns), 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1910 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1,307 lbs / 593 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 0
4 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 6.00" / 152 mm 350.00 ft / 106.68 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Ends: 2.00" / 51 mm 80.00 ft / 24.38 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
29.30 ft / 8.93 m Unarmoured ends
Main Belt covers 117 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 8.00" / 203 mm 4.00" / 102 mm 8.00" / 203 mm
2nd: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
3rd: 0.25" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0.25" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0.25" / 6 mm - -

- Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 8.00" / 203 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 62,740 shp / 46,804 Kw = 29.00 kts
Range 4,000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 587 tons

Complement:
479 - 623

Cost:
£0.716 million / $2.865 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 163 tons, 1.7 %
Armour: 2,178 tons, 23.0 %
- Belts: 931 tons, 9.8 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 373 tons, 3.9 %
- Armour Deck: 797 tons, 8.4 %
- Conning Tower: 77 tons, 0.8 %
Machinery: 1,901 tons, 20.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,449 tons, 47.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 515 tons, 5.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 250 tons, 2.6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
14,511 lbs / 6,582 Kg = 56.7 x 8.0 " / 203 mm shells or 2.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.19
Metacentric height 4.5 ft / 1.4 m
Roll period: 15.0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 54 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.15
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.04

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.415
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.08 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 21.43 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 61 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 52
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 25.57 ft / 7.79 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 22.00 ft / 6.71 m
- Mid (50 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 17.00 ft / 5.18 m
- Stern: 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Average freeboard: 19.86 ft / 6.05 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 80.9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 155.0 %
Waterplane Area: 21,545 Square feet or 2,002 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 125 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 138 lbs/sq ft or 675 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.13
- Longitudinal: 3.14
- Overall: 1.25
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Thanks for the help eltf177 but don't you think that there is not enough space to instal 12(6x2) 40mm A/A & 12 20mm A/A guns( exept on the FWD & AFT of the main guns on main deck)
Also the ship has only 2 shafts and no 4
For the twin T/T we can make some spase between the double 4" guns and house them there!

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Originally posted by Navarchos
Thanks for the help eltf177 but don't you think that there is not enough space to instal 12(6x2) 40mm A/A & 12 20mm A/A guns( exept on the FWD & AFT of the main guns on main deck)
Also the ship has only 2 shafts and no 4
For the twin T/T we can make some spase between the double 4" guns and house them there!

Agreed on deck space, number should be cut back.

I found Conway's and you're right, only 2 shafts.

I'll do some repairs and repost...