Various Aircraft and Tanks

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Rooijen10

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Sunday, February 14th 2010, 8:09pm

Nah. More likely I'll go for the Type 89...

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thesmilingassassin

The Chosen One

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Sunday, February 14th 2010, 8:18pm

Ha, I'm really trying to refrain from entering this arguement again, trying reeeeeal hard....

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Hrolf Hakonson

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Sunday, February 14th 2010, 8:24pm

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Originally posted by Red Admiral

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Originally posted by Hrolf Hakonson
You're going to force me to hurry up and develop the 105mm/128mm Kwk guns, aren't you?

I did say _future_. I'm not sure why you need the 105 or 128 guns unless the target is seriously armoured (or at really long range).

That's kind of my opinion, but then, I wasn't the one planning the 105mm/50 armed tank, either..... Right now, Germany has no plans, per se, for a tank armed with a high velocity gun larger in bore than 88mm. That could change, of course, but that's the situation right now.

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TheCanadian

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Sunday, February 14th 2010, 8:43pm

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Originally posted by thesmilingassassin
Ha, I'm really trying to refrain from entering this arguement again, trying reeeeeal hard....

I think I can sympathize with you there, Wes. (Must Not Type, Must Not Type).

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Red Admiral

Italian Stallion

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Sunday, February 14th 2010, 9:26pm

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Originally posted by Hrolf Hakonson
That's kind of my opinion, but then, I wasn't the one planning the 105mm/50 armed tank, either..... Right now, Germany has no plans, per se, for a tank armed with a high velocity gun larger in bore than 88mm. That could change, of course, but that's the situation right now.

I meant future as in late 40s/early 50s. I don't really see the need for penetrating 200mm+ of armour at any range. 75/46 with APCBC will do for the current threats (though a bit marginal against heavy tanks). The long 85mm will do nicely for picking off lots of Indian tanks and APCs at long range.

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Marek Gutkowski

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Monday, February 15th 2010, 2:18am

Your design looks cramped. It will not carry much ammo and/or fuel and be a pain to operated.
Is this thing destined to be a defensive weapon or a offensive weapon.
Panzer IV was originally a offensive weapon with a big gun for destroying bunkers. When the enemy started pressing back it got a High-Velocity Gun for defensive work.

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Red Admiral

Italian Stallion

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Monday, February 15th 2010, 6:54pm

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Originally posted by Marek Gutkowski
Your design looks cramped. It will not carry much ammo and/or fuel and be a pain to operated.
Is this thing destined to be a defensive weapon or a offensive weapon.

Well it's pretty big so I don't think space would be a problem. It's not like trying to cram a long 105mm gun into the Panzer IV. Italian planned operations focus on the defensive, so a long ranged powerful gun and lots of frontal armour.

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Red Admiral

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Monday, February 15th 2010, 7:24pm

Something a bit smaller and lighter for the more immediate future.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Red Admiral" (Feb 15th 2010, 7:24pm)

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Vukovlad

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Wednesday, February 17th 2010, 6:52pm

From "Secret projects of the Succession War"

The rivalry between the Pushtigaban and Gendarmes sometimes took up a farcial note, one of these things was the Pushtigaban Dahak fighter project (since the Gendarmes had an Air service then the Pushtigaban was bloody well have one as well). The Dahak was funded by the Pushtigaban while the actual design was carried out by Shahbaz and the Aeronautics Engineering department of Teheran Polytechnic Institute. The project was dropped when it became clear that the cost of development would far exceed intial projections and the only engine of sufficient power was British.

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ALVAMA

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Wednesday, February 17th 2010, 7:07pm

Awesome done, guys!!!

LOVE IT!!!

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Marek Gutkowski

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Wednesday, February 17th 2010, 7:12pm

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Originally posted by Red Admiral
Something a bit smaller and lighter for the more immediate future.

Looks British...

A bit of info?

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Marek Gutkowski

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Thursday, February 18th 2010, 11:34pm

I made an ugly plane,yeay

Edited picture with Vokovlad help, new smaller propeller hub

As You can see this is a Bf-109G with a radial namely the Mitsubishi Kinsei instead of DB-605

The engine is 211kg lighter so not to mess up the center of mass I put it closer to the wings, There output is pretty close. The drag is higher so V-max will be lower.
This one will climb better, my guess is that this plane will have better roll rate and maneuverability that the original.
Range will stay the same.

Two 20mm in the fuselage.
Gun pods from bf109g can be fitted.

This post has been edited 4 times, last edit by "Marek Gutkowski" (Feb 19th 2010, 5:39pm)