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In order to defend to Japanese new cruiser in 1894 y.

A new BB ship design was laid on chinese Government

I can believe the design so far very good than the original DingYuen class BB from Deutschland.

In spite of this is the Never were! ~0~, ~0`

An about ship parameter would be shown at the following list.


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“ç*G”÷|0141 144, 144 141 laid down 1881

Displacement:
10,210 t light; 10,812 t standard; 12,270 t normal; 13,436 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(429.79 ft / 419.95 ft) x 55.77 ft (Bulges 68.90 ft) x (25.59 / 28.02 ft)
(131.00 m / 128.00 m) x 17.00 m (Bulges 21.00 m) x (7.80 / 8.54 m)

Armament:
4 - 12.01" / 305 mm 25.0 cal guns - 731.32lbs / 331.72kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1881 Model
1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward
1 x 2-gun mount on centreline amidships (forward deck aft)
1 raised mount
12 - 6.00" / 152 mm 45.0 cal guns - 101.30lbs / 45.95kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1881 Model
10 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
10 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in any sea
2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft deck aft
1 raised mount
12 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.06lbs / 5.47kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1881 Model
12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 4,286 lbs / 1,944 kg

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 12.0" / 305 mm 292.91 ft / 89.28 m 16.44 ft / 5.01 m
Ends: 1.97" / 50 mm 127.00 ft / 38.71 m 9.71 ft / 2.96 m
Main Belt covers 107% of normal length

- Hull Bulges:
0.00" / 0 mm 292.91 ft / 89.28 m 25.43 ft / 7.75 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 12.6" / 320 mm 4.21" / 107 mm 12.6" / 320 mm
2nd: 9.84" / 250 mm - 5.91" / 150 mm
3rd: 1.97" / 50 mm - -

- Protected deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm Quarter deck: 0.98" / 25 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 13.78" / 350 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6,811 ihp / 5,081 Kw = 15.00 kts
Range 6,000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,624 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
582 - 757

Cost:
£0.768 million / $3.073 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 590 tons, 4.8%
- Guns: 590 tons, 4.8%
Armour: 3,992 tons, 32.5%
- Belts: 2,513 tons, 20.5%
- Armament: 769 tons, 6.3%
- Armour Deck: 552 tons, 4.5%
- Conning Tower: 158 tons, 1.3%
Machinery: 1,389 tons, 11.3%
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,049 tons, 33.0%
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,060 tons, 16.8%
Miscellaneous weights: 190 tons, 1.5%
- Hull below water: 50 tons
- Bulge void weights: 100 tons
- Hull above water: 20 tons
- On freeboard deck: 10 tons
- Above deck: 10 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
16,757 lbs / 7,601 Kg = 22.4 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 3.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.32
Metacentric height 3.4 ft / 1.0 m
Roll period: 15.7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.46
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.67

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle, rise aft of midbreak,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.580 / 0.580
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.10 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 20.49 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 35 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 43
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 5.00 degrees
Stern overhang: -7.55 ft / -2.30 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00%, 21.16 ft / 6.45 m, 14.47 ft / 4.41 m
- Forward deck: 0.00%, 0.00 ft / 0.00 m, 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Aft deck: 62.00%, 13.68 ft / 4.17 m, 14.34 ft / 4.37 m
- Quarter deck: 18.00%, 14.34 ft / 4.37 m, 14.99 ft / 4.57 m
- Average freeboard: 14.75 ft / 4.50 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 56.2%
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 77.1%
Waterplane Area: 16,813 Square feet or 1,562 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 136%
Structure weight / hull surface area: 153 lbs/sq ft or 746 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.94
- Longitudinal: 2.06
- Overall: 1.02
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Cramped accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

I like the drawing a lot.

But it seems difficult for the Chinese government to have a battleship designed in 1881 to combat a Japanese ship to be laid down in 1894.....

Also, the all-forward main armament is VERY, VERY innovative for the period, the first superfiring 12" turrets were on the US South Carolina class, and those ships were contemporaries of HMS Dreadnought, post-Russo-Japanese war. To be more in keeping with the period, the raised forward 12" turret should be moved to the stern, where it will also give the ship some rearward capabilities she current lacks.

Given the time period, I'd probably also replace the 75mm mounts with Nordenfelt or Hotchkiss rapid-firing guns.

You've also probably got more 12" ammunition than you need (I'd suggest 100 rounds or so), but not enough 6" or 75mm.

Yes.

I know the best beginner of superfiring 12" turrets were on US South Carolina in1903.

However, the turrets with an thin shield was on the 1868 y ago or earlier.



  French-style towerò2(1868 Naval ram turret ship which was built in the early years)

France's turret ship Furuminan Fulminant [1882 year built] turret



France's turret ship Furuminan Fulminant [1882 year built] turret The playmaker has been central canopy layers. Citadel with lower defense.


The 1868 French Naval ram turret ship was built in turret Burudogu Bouledogue sketch.

100 rounds (4.7") gun can not strike through 4" armor on the 1894's Sino-Japanese war.
but 152mmQF can do it.

So , I design the ship absolute according to the point.

Thanks for your suggestion. I would add some 47mm
rapid-firing guns.

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Originally posted by Hrolf Hakonson

Also, the all-forward main armament is VERY, VERY innovative for the period, the first superfiring 12" turrets were on the US South Carolina class, and those ships were contemporaries of HMS Dreadnought, post-Russo-Japanese war. To be more in keeping with the period, the raised forward 12" turret should be moved to the stern, where it will also give the ship some rearward capabilities she current lacks.

I have to agree, go with an A/Y arrangement and transfer the 6-inch gun in "Y" position to "B" position superfiring over "A" turret.

What happened with the ship ?