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The super secret super duper Mexican battleship using the latest technology available to Mexico in 1940...



Zaragoza, Mexico Super Battleship laid down 1940 (1880)
Armoured Corvette (Broadside ironclad)

Displacement:
4,715 t light; 5,222 t standard; 5,349 t normal; 5,450 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
300.00 ft / 300.00 ft x 60.00 ft x 16.00 ft (normal load)
91.44 m / 91.44 m x 18.29 m x 4.88 m

Armament:
4 - 11.00" / 279 mm guns in single mounts, 565.68lbs / 256.59kg shells, 1880 Model
Muzzle loading guns in Coles/Ericsson turrets
on centreline ends, evenly spread
8 - 11.00" / 279 mm guns in single mounts, 565.68lbs / 256.59kg shells, 1880 Model
Muzzle loading guns in broadside mounts
on side, all amidships
Weight of broadside 6,788 lbs / 3,079 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 4.00" / 102 mm 195.00 ft / 59.44 m 9.30 ft / 2.83 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 4.00" / 102 mm 1.00" / 25 mm -
2nd: 4.00" / 102 mm - -

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 521 ihp / 389 Kw = 8.00 kts
Range 1,100nm at 8.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 227 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
312 - 406

Cost:
£0.893 million / $3.571 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 849 tons, 15.9 %
Armour: 873 tons, 16.3 %
- Belts: 328 tons, 6.1 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 545 tons, 10.2 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 108 tons, 2.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,886 tons, 54.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 633 tons, 11.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
3,140 lbs / 1,424 Kg = 5.6 x 11.0 " / 279 mm shells or 0.8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.28
Metacentric height 3.6 ft / 1.1 m
Roll period: 13.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 81 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.96
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.61

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.650
Length to Beam Ratio: 5.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 17.32 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 18 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 17.75 ft / 5.41 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 12.12 ft / 3.69 m
- Mid (50 %): 12.12 ft / 3.69 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 12.12 ft / 3.69 m
- Stern: 12.12 ft / 3.69 m
- Average freeboard: 12.57 ft / 3.83 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 124.5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 102.0 %
Waterplane Area: 13,789 Square feet or 1,281 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 68 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 157 lbs/sq ft or 766 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.91
- Longitudinal: 2.60
- Overall: 1.01
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

On a more serious note...



10 will be built as replacements for the sold motor launches and Aztecas. Pretty much an all purpose patrol ship.

G-1, Mexico Patrol Craft laid down 1940

Displacement:
120 t light; 124 t standard; 135 t normal; 143 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
154.02 ft / 150.00 ft x 15.50 ft x 5.00 ft (normal load)
46.95 m / 45.72 m x 4.72 m x 1.52 m

Armament:
1 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.17lbs / 1.44kg shells, 1940 Model
Dual purpose gun in deck mount
on centreline forward
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1940 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 3 lbs / 2 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 300

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.00" / 25 mm - -

Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion motors,
Geared drive, 1 shaft, 3,307 shp / 2,467 Kw = 24.10 kts
Range 3,000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 20 tons

Complement:
19 - 25

Cost:
£0.082 million / $0.328 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 0 tons, 0.3 %
Armour: 1 tons, 0.6 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 1 tons, 0.6 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 65 tons, 48.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 44 tons, 32.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 14 tons, 10.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 10 tons, 7.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
44 lbs / 20 Kg = 13.9 x 1.9 " / 47 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.20
Metacentric height 0.4 ft / 0.1 m
Roll period: 10.0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 61 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.04
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.21

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle
Block coefficient: 0.405
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.68 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 12.25 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 70 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Forecastle (25 %): 13.00 ft / 3.96 m (7.00 ft / 2.13 m aft of break)
- Mid (50 %): 7.00 ft / 2.13 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 7.00 ft / 2.13 m
- Stern: 7.00 ft / 2.13 m
- Average freeboard: 8.70 ft / 2.65 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 166.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 95.3 %
Waterplane Area: 1,358 Square feet or 126 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 70 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 12 lbs/sq ft or 61 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.43
- Longitudinal: 4.72
- Overall: 0.55
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily




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If a suitable conversion ship can be found, a paddlewheel carrier!

Seis de Abril, Mexico Aircraft carrier laid down 1914 (converted 1940)

Displacement:
4,914 t light; 5,022 t standard; 5,331 t normal; 5,579 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
500.00 ft / 500.00 ft x 59.00 ft x 11.50 ft (normal load)
152.40 m / 152.40 m x 17.98 m x 3.51 m

Armament:
4 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 3.17lbs / 1.44kg shells, 1914 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
8 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns (4x2 guns), 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1914 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 13 lbs / 6 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.00" / 25 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.00" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 1.00" / 25 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 3,929 ihp / 2,931 Kw = 15.00 kts
Range 3,500nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 557 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
311 - 405

Cost:
£0.267 million / $1.067 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2 tons, 0.0 %
Armour: 389 tons, 7.3 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 1 tons, 0.0 %
- Armour Deck: 381 tons, 7.1 %
- Conning Tower: 7 tons, 0.1 %
Machinery: 259 tons, 4.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,115 tons, 39.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 417 tons, 7.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 2,150 tons, 40.3 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
15,421 lbs / 6,995 Kg = 4,867.9 x 1.9 " / 47 mm shells or 2.6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.20
Metacentric height 3.2 ft / 1.0 m
Roll period: 13.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.80

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.550
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.47 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22.36 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 23 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 28
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 24.00 ft / 7.32 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Mid (50 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Stern: 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Average freeboard: 20.32 ft / 6.19 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 60.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 252.2 %
Waterplane Area: 20,588 Square feet or 1,913 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 174 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 70 lbs/sq ft or 342 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.42
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Freeboard seems high; I mean, the moniter had only about a foots worth, and we're talking ships that the US was only capable of producing in the 1860s. Obviously, industrial espinoge is afoot.

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- Cross-sectional: 0.43

If you're gonna use loopholes, please make it at least look legal!

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Originally posted by Desertfox
The super secret super duper Mexican battleship using the latest technology available to Mexico in 1940...



Zaragoza, Mexico Super Battleship laid down 1940 (1880)
Armoured Corvette (Broadside ironclad)

Zaragoza probably looks formidable with all those guns! An obvious response to Chile's captured Huascar and the British-built Cochrane and Blanco Encalada. *Gets to work designing a counter.*

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Esmeralda, Chilean Casemate Armoured Cruiser laid down 1882

Displacement:
7,176 t light; 7,656 t standard; 10,862 t normal; 13,426 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
450.00 ft / 450.00 ft x 60.00 ft (Bulges 64.00 ft) x 24.00 ft (normal load)
137.16 m / 137.16 m x 18.29 m (Bulges 19.51 m) x 7.32 m

Armament:
2 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 95.04lbs / 43.11kg shells, 1882 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on centreline ends, evenly spread
6 - 10.00" / 254 mm guns in single mounts, 440.00lbs / 199.58kg shells, 1882 Model
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
on side, all amidships
6 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
4 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 11.88lbs / 5.39kg shells, 1882 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 2,878 lbs / 1,305 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
2 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 6.00" / 152 mm 282.75 ft / 86.18 m 9.30 ft / 2.83 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 97 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 2.00" / 51 mm 1.00" / 25 mm -
2nd: 4.00" / 102 mm 2.00" / 51 mm -

- Armour deck: 1.50" / 38 mm, Conning tower: 6.00" / 152 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 7,742 ihp / 5,776 Kw = 16.00 kts
Range 7,500nm at 13.50 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 5,770 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
531 - 691

Cost:
£0.771 million / $3.086 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 360 tons, 3.3 %
Armour: 1,438 tons, 13.2 %
- Belts: 681 tons, 6.3 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 170 tons, 1.6 %
- Armour Deck: 523 tons, 4.8 %
- Conning Tower: 63 tons, 0.6 %
Machinery: 1,558 tons, 14.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,495 tons, 32.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,686 tons, 33.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 325 tons, 3.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
15,184 lbs / 6,887 Kg = 159.8 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.52
Metacentric height 4.8 ft / 1.4 m
Roll period: 12.3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.23
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low quarterdeck
Block coefficient: 0.550
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.03 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 21.21 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 34 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: -4.00 ft / -1.22 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 24.00 ft / 7.32 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 22.00 ft / 6.71 m
- Mid (50 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 13.00 ft / 3.96 m (20.00 ft / 6.10 m before break)
- Stern: 13.00 ft / 3.96 m
- Average freeboard: 19.81 ft / 6.04 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 78.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 138.3 %
Waterplane Area: 18,843 Square feet or 1,751 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 140 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 110 lbs/sq ft or 539 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.92
- Longitudinal: 2.17
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Breakdown of Miscellaneous Weights:
- 140 tons for four 35-ton steam torpedo boats
- 60 tons for cranes for launching torpedo boats at sea
- 100 tons for extra supplies and fuel
- 20 tons for rum
- 5 tons for officers' billiards mess

[SIZE=1]Yes, she's a torpedo boat mothership too. The British did that back in the day.[/SIZE]

Oops, well I did base it of a historical class of ships and SS2 doesn't really like small fry. I'll try to fix it...

http://www.warshipsww2.eu/lode.php?langu…od=&idtrida=977

Once the SS works they'll probably be fairly decent little boats. I like the looks of them.

An actual ship was found so she will be built. Actually three (Berkeshire, C.W. Morse, Hendrick Hudson) where found so at least two of these will be built. These will have a small three plane hangar served by a crane to allow repairs to be carried out.



Seis de Abril, Mexico Aircraft carrier laid down 1910

Displacement:
4,402 t light; 4,499 t standard; 4,773 t normal; 4,993 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
450.00 ft / 450.00 ft x 50.00 ft x 13.50 ft (normal load)
137.16 m / 137.16 m x 15.24 m x 4.11 m

Armament:
4 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 3.17lbs / 1.44kg shells, 1910 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
8 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns (4x2 guns), 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1910 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 13 lbs / 6 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.00" / 25 mm - -

- Armour deck: 0.50" / 13 mm, Conning tower: 1.00" / 25 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 5,487 ihp / 4,093 Kw = 17.00 kts
Range 3,300nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 494 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
286 - 373

Cost:
£0.207 million / $0.827 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2 tons, 0.0 %
Armour: 153 tons, 3.2 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 1 tons, 0.0 %
- Armour Deck: 145 tons, 3.0 %
- Conning Tower: 6 tons, 0.1 %
Machinery: 366 tons, 7.7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,682 tons, 35.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 371 tons, 7.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 2,200 tons, 46.1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
7,870 lbs / 3,570 Kg = 2,484.4 x 1.9 " / 47 mm shells or 1.6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.08
Metacentric height 2.0 ft / 0.6 m
Roll period: 14.7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.63

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.550
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 21.21 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 32 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 31
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 17.00 ft / 5.18 m
- Forecastle (50 %): 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Mid (50 %): 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Stern: 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Average freeboard: 15.40 ft / 4.69 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 75.9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 156.9 %
Waterplane Area: 15,703 Square feet or 1,459 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 154 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 72 lbs/sq ft or 352 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.13
- Longitudinal: 1.24
- Overall: 1.14
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather



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Fixed:

G-1, Mexico Patrol Craft laid down 1940

Displacement:
127 t light; 131 t standard; 141 t normal; 149 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
154.02 ft / 150.00 ft x 15.50 ft x 5.30 ft (normal load)
46.95 m / 45.72 m x 4.72 m x 1.62 m

Armament:
2 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.17lbs / 1.44kg shells, 1940 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1940 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 7 lbs / 3 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 300

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.00" / 25 mm - -

Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion motors,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 3,393 shp / 2,531 Kw = 24.10 kts
Range 2,700nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 18 tons

Complement:
19 - 26

Cost:
£0.087 million / $0.347 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 tons, 0.6 %
Armour: 2 tons, 1.2 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 2 tons, 1.2 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 67 tons, 47.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 47 tons, 33.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 14 tons, 10.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 10 tons, 7.1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
49 lbs / 22 Kg = 15.5 x 1.9 " / 47 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.07
Metacentric height 0.3 ft / 0.1 m
Roll period: 11.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.08
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.00

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle
Block coefficient: 0.400
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.68 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 12.25 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 70 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Forecastle (14 %): 12.00 ft / 3.66 m (7.00 ft / 2.13 m aft of break)
- Mid (50 %): 7.00 ft / 2.13 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 7.00 ft / 2.13 m
- Stern: 7.00 ft / 2.13 m
- Average freeboard: 7.87 ft / 2.40 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 165.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 100.4 %
Waterplane Area: 1,431 Square feet or 133 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 71 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 15 lbs/sq ft or 71 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 3.80
- Overall: 0.61
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

A refit for Cinco de Mayo, mainly to allow it to operate more modern aircraft. 20 each of Grumman Wildcats, Douglas Devastors, and Vought Vindicators have been purchased.


Cinco de Mayo (ex-Hosho), Mexico (ex-Japan) Aircraft Carrier laid down 1919

Displacement:
7,465 t light; 7,679 t standard; 9,507 t normal; 10,970 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
590.00 ft / 590.00 ft x 60.00 ft x 20.00 ft (normal load)
179.83 m / 179.83 m x 18.29 m x 6.10 m

Armament:
2 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns in single mounts, 62.50lbs / 28.35kg shells, 1939 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread
12 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns (6x2 guns), 3.17lbs / 1.44kg shells, 1939 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
4 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 3.17lbs / 1.44kg shells, 1939 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on centreline ends, evenly spread
24 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns (12x2 guns), 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1939 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 177 lbs / 80 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 210

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.00" / 25 mm 0.50" / 13 mm -
2nd: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
3rd: 0.50" / 13 mm - -

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 71,252 shp / 53,154 Kw = 31.00 kts
Range 13,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,291 tons

Complement:
480 - 625

Cost:
£1.384 million / $5.534 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 22 tons, 0.2 %
Armour: 8 tons, 0.1 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 8 tons, 0.1 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 2,530 tons, 26.6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,965 tons, 31.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,043 tons, 21.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 1,940 tons, 20.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
8,858 lbs / 4,018 Kg = 141.7 x 5.0 " / 127 mm shells or 1.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.22
Metacentric height 3.3 ft / 1.0 m
Roll period: 13.8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 56 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.03
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.11

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.470
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.83 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24.29 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 28.00 ft / 8.53 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 15.50 ft / 4.72 m
- Mid (50 %): 15.50 ft / 4.72 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 15.50 ft / 4.72 m
- Stern: 15.50 ft / 4.72 m
- Average freeboard: 16.50 ft / 5.03 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 110.6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 141.3 %
Waterplane Area: 22,965 Square feet or 2,133 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 132 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 84 lbs/sq ft or 410 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.00
- Longitudinal: 1.01
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

The paddle wheelers are Hudson River steamers. All are getting up there in years, and historically the line went under in the 1940's anyhow. Plus, there was no way to get any of the Great Lakes paddle steamers past the Welland or St. Lawrence locks.

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Originally posted by CanisD
The paddle wheelers are Hudson River steamers. All are getting up there in years, and historically the line went under in the 1940's anyhow. Plus, there was no way to get any of the Great Lakes paddle steamers past the Welland or St. Lawrence locks.

When I took over Canada, I recall us discussing expanding the St. Lawrence seaway.

Hmmm...forgot about that, but now that you mention it... Still, the locks would have to be extra wide to allow the sidewheelers to use them. They were both almost 100 feet wide over the wheels and only one of the Sault Saint Marie locks would hold them.
Found a really nice model of the Wolverine, BTW.
http://www.modelboats.co.uk/news/article.asp?a=483

Well, it would've been a late 20s-early 30s project, given when we originally discussed it.

Bump.

CVT Rio Panuco is the first steamer conversion based on the smaller (Henry Hudson) of the three ships. She won't have a hangar and only half the armament of the Seis de Abril design shown above. She will be used strictly for training and will be available for NATO use if NATO members want to make use of her or other nations at a price.

I wouldn't hold your breath; Canada's been running Hermes as a training carrier for a few years, and presumably a better platform for it (despite her age). The US has the three Lake Champlains, Atlantis has Nautica, and the RN Has it's own CVLs. Even Oz still has Argus, iirc.

Yup, but Mexico's ship will be based off of Cancun... And will have nice calm weather most of the year. Once NATO's pilots receive the shiny brochures with pictures of the beaches... well they might stage a mutiny if Mexico's offer isn't taken up.

Atlantis as Shin says has not only Nautica but the Siboney as well. Most likely the Alioth will join these ships in this role once the Arcturus class are completed.