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The chinese navy aviation calls a fighter with an appropriate range. For this reason, the following tender was published:

Long Range Fighter

For redundancy a twin engine fighter is prefered.

Range: minimum 2000 km / 1250 miles

Speed: minimum 550 km/h
Ceiling: 10.000 m

Loaded weight: < 6000 kg

Armament:
exchangeable from fighter (Night Fighter) to Anti-Shipping => not only cannons also external bombload possible

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Except Shaanxi Aviation Ltd. no other chinese aircraft manufacturer invests in the tender. Shaanxi presents a Joint Venture with Kawasaki,
the SH-45 (clone of the Ki-45 Fighter).

SH-45
Long Range Fighter

Crew: 2
Length: 11.00 m
Wingspan: 15.05 m
Height: 3.70 m
Empty weight:
Max takeoff weight:
Powerplant: two Mitsubishi Ha-102, 1080 hp
Maximum speed: 540 km/h
Service ceiling: 10730 m
Range: 2260 km
Armament: One 20mm canon, three 7.7mm machine gun

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China already has the two aircraft that Germany would submit to such a competition, the Fw-187 and the Bf-110.(BFW is having the historical problems with the Me-210 and the -410 is probably a year away in WW 1938 ).

Lockheed, to it's disappointment, finds that the P-38D/E models weigh too much for the competition.

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Haha, Spartan's Cutlass design doesn't even come close to meeting the weight requirement.

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Polish entry.
Government backing for the Lampart has stopped in poland as the new defense doctrine doesn't require this type of plane.The plane is now in prototype stage.
Poland will supply assistance in Chine domestic production.
The aerodynamic layout is sound and proven on Los bomber.
We are prepared to arm the plane with whatever weaponry China wishes.
The plane weight is a little over the stated maximum but can meet the requirements if the rear gunner position is not needed.
Powered by two Kinsei engines, however we are willing to use other engines If china wishes.

Plane can be used as a torpedo bomber, dive bomber variant can be developed.

Weight
4500kg empty
6500kg loaded
Speed
600-640km/h

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Zitat:
Originally posted by Hrolf Hakonson
China already has the two aircraft that Germany would submit to such a competition, the Fw-187 and the Bf-110.(BFW is having the historical problems with the Me-210 and the -410 is probably a year away in WW 1938 ).

Lockheed, to it's disappointment, finds that the P-38D/E models weigh too much for the competition.


The Fw-187 looks okay (range & weight), but the Bf-110 hasn't the required range.


Also a weight close but over the requirements is accepted.

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I note:
Zitat:
chinese navy aviation


...is this intended to operate from a carrier deck?

China seems to have a whole lot of different types of aircraft to accomplish similar missions already. Why not standardize on an existing type and just use it?

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Zitat:
Originally posted by Brockpaine
I note:
Zitat:
chinese navy aviation


...is this intended to operate from a carrier deck?


Could be an option. But not neccessary.

Zitat:
Originally posted by Brockpaine
China seems to have a whole lot of different types of aircraft to accomplish similar missions already. Why not standardize on an existing type and just use it?


The different parts of the chinese army doesn't like each other. Thus, everyone wants to have its own version or create their own requirements.

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Zitat:
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Zitat:
Originally posted by Hrolf Hakonson
China already has the two aircraft that Germany would submit to such a competition, the Fw-187 and the Bf-110.(BFW is having the historical problems with the Me-210 and the -410 is probably a year away in WW 1938 ).

Lockheed, to it's disappointment, finds that the P-38D/E models weigh too much for the competition.


The Fw-187 looks okay (range & weight), but the Bf-110 hasn't the required range.


Also a weight close but over the requirements is accepted.


??? The WW Bf-110B is based on the OTL Bf-110 C-4, which had a range of 2410 km......

The P-38E weighs over 5000 kg empty, with a takeoff weight of over 6500 kg or up to 7000 kg with a full load of external stores.

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Zitat:
Originally posted by Hrolf Hakonson
Zitat:
Originally posted by parador
Zitat:
Originally posted by Hrolf Hakonson
China already has the two aircraft that Germany would submit to such a competition, the Fw-187 and the Bf-110.(BFW is having the historical problems with the Me-210 and the -410 is probably a year away in WW 1938 ).

Lockheed, to it's disappointment, finds that the P-38D/E models weigh too much for the competition.


The Fw-187 looks okay (range & weight), but the Bf-110 hasn't the required range.


Also a weight close but over the requirements is accepted.


??? The WW Bf-110B is based on the OTL Bf-110 C-4, which had a range of 2410 km......




If you look here http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/bf110c4.html
it only have a range of 850km. verwirrt verwirrt verwirrt

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Latvia offers the Sieremdres. It has everything nessasary except the range, and it is considerably lighter. It is our belief that extra fuel tanks could be fitted, driving up the range. Although it is not twin engine, it is considerably cheaper.



Name: Sieremdres
Wingspan: 43.5 feet
Length: 35 feet
Height: 10.5 feet
Wing Area: 78 square feet
Empty: 4,400 pounds
Full: 6,900 pounds
Engine: 1 900 hp 12-cylinder in-line engine
Armerment: 4 .303'' machine guns. (4 on the wings), 1 23mm cannon,(hubcap)
Payload: 250 pounds of bombs
Max Speed: 325 miles per hour
Cruising Speed: 300 miles per hour
Endurance: 625 miles
Ceiling: 35,000 feet

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Peru has the Tunqui-project. A, B, and C (N) version.

Fighter, fighterbomber, and Naval fighter.

The Naval version is full Metal.

http://wesworld.jk-clan.de/thread.php?threadid=7620&sid=



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