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Friday, January 27th 2012, 7:37pm

Retired or Lost Ships

List of ships no longer under active service and there fate. Note that some names have been reused on newer ships.

Capital Ships:

MIBN Minas Gerais: Sold To Columbia 1937
MIBN Sao Paulo: Renamed Minas Gerais to free up name for new battlecuiser. Museum ship 1941
MIBN Rio de Janeiro: Sold to Columbia 1937
MIBN Recife: Sold to Columbia 1937

Cruisers

MIBN Barroso: Capsized 09/27/1935
MIBN Amazonas: Sunk during SA War
MIBN Abreu: Sunk during SA War
MIBN Bahia: Sunk during SA War
MIBN Rio Grande do Sul: Museum ship 1941

Destroyers:

MIBN Pará: Sunk during SA War
MIBN Parahyba: Sunk during SA War
MIBN Ceará: Sunk during SA War
MIBN Goiás: Sunk during SA War
MIBN Onça: Sunk during SA War
MIBN Leopardo: Sunk during SA War
MIBN Leão: Sunk during SA War
MIBN Pantera: Sold to Argentina in 1942
MIBN Lince: Sold to Argentina in 1942
MIBN Tigre: Sold to Argentina in 1942
MIBN Chita: Sold to Argentina in 1942
MIBN Ocelot: Sold to Argentina in 1942
MIBN Felis: Sold to Argentina in 1942
MIBN Oncilla: Sold to Argentina in 1942
MIBN Colocolo: Sold to Argentina in 1942
MIBN Pampas: Sold to Argentina in 1942
MIBN Salvador: Scraped 1942
MIBN Maranhão: Scraped 1942

Submarines:

F-1: Sunk during SA War
F-3: Payed off 1941
F-5: Sunk during SA War
MIBN Tubarão: Sunk during SA War
MIBN Golfinho: Sunk during SA War
MIBN Raio: Sunk during SA War

Other:

MIBN Carlos Gomez: Payed off 1941
MIBN Belmonte: Scraped 1942
MIBN Ceará: Scraped 1942
Old Amazon Gunboats (pre 1905): Payed off 1941. Transferred to the Army and converted to immovable guardships at Manaus.
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
Sneak home and pray you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

This post has been edited 3 times, last edit by "snip" (Jul 7th 2012, 11:59pm)


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Friday, July 13th 2012, 11:53pm

Salvador Class Destroyers

Salvador class, Brazilian Destroyer laid down 1912

Displacement:
1,071 t light; 1,109 t standard; 1,255 t normal; 1,372 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
301.75 ft / 300.00 ft x 30.50 ft x 10.00 ft (normal load)
91.97 m / 91.44 m x 9.30 m x 3.05 m

Armament:
3 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 45.00lbs / 20.41kg shells, 1912 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on centreline, evenly spread
Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
1 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.00lbs / 5.90kg shells, 1917 Model
Anti-aircraft gun in deck mount
on centreline amidships, 1 raised gun
2 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1912 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 148 lbs / 67 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
4 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 28,213 shp / 21,047 Kw = 31.00 kts
Range 6,500nm at 10.00 kts (Bunkerage = 263 tons)

Complement:
105 - 137

Cost:
£0.151 million / $0.604 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 21 tons, 1.7 %
Machinery: 682 tons, 54.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 342 tons, 27.3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 184 tons, 14.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 25 tons, 2.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
326 lbs / 148 Kg = 6.2 x 4.7 " / 120 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.34
Metacentric height 1.4 ft / 0.4 m
Roll period: 10.8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.18
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 0.99

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
Block coefficient: 0.480
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.84 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 17.32 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 70 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 71
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 5.00 degrees
Stern overhang: -2.00 ft / -0.61 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Forecastle (10 %): 19.50 ft / 5.94 m
- Mid (20 %): 19.50 ft / 5.94 m (12.50 ft / 3.81 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (20 %): 12.50 ft / 3.81 m
- Stern: 12.50 ft / 3.81 m
- Average freeboard: 13.92 ft / 4.24 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 190.5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 102.5 %
Waterplane Area: 5,988 Square feet or 556 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 51 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 28 lbs/sq ft or 139 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 2.11
- Overall: 0.57
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

Two ships, Both scrap:
MIBN Salvador
MIBN Maranhão
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
Sneak home and pray you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

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Friday, July 13th 2012, 11:54pm

Margay Class Destroyers

Margay Class, Brazilian Destroyer laid down 1932

Displacement:
1,992 t light; 2,100 t standard; 2,600 t normal; 2,989 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
401.26 ft / 390.00 ft x 40.00 ft x 13.00 ft (normal load)
122.30 m / 118.87 m x 12.19 m x 3.96 m

Armament:
9 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns (3x3 guns), 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1932 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
10 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (6 mounts), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1932 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
4 - 0.54" / 13.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.08lbs / 0.04kg shells, 1932 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 490 lbs / 222 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 200
8 - 21.0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 1.00" / 25 mm 390.00 ft / 118.87 m 8.00 ft / 2.44 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 154 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 2.00" / 51 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 2.00" / 51 mm
2nd: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
3rd: 0.25" / 6 mm - -

- Armour deck: 0.25" / 6 mm, Conning tower: 1.00" / 25 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 35,460 shp / 26,453 Kw = 30.50 kts
Range 15,000nm at 12.00 kts (Bunkerage = 900 tons)

Complement:
181 - 236

Cost:
£1.196 million / $4.783 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 61 tons, 2.4 %
Armour: 198 tons, 7.6 %
- Belts: 115 tons, 4.4 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 35 tons, 1.3 %
- Armour Deck: 44 tons, 1.7 %
- Conning Tower: 4 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 1,013 tons, 39.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 720 tons, 27.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 608 tons, 23.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
1,073 lbs / 487 Kg = 20.4 x 4.7 " / 120 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.37
Metacentric height 2.2 ft / 0.7 m
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.52
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.27

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.449
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.75 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 19.75 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 55
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 1.00 ft / 0.30 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 22.00 ft / 6.71 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Mid (50 %): 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Stern: 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Average freeboard: 16.48 ft / 5.02 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 144.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 103.2 %
Waterplane Area: 9,469 Square feet or 880 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 93 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 39 lbs/sq ft or 192 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 1.53
- Overall: 0.56
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Nine Ships:
MIBN Pantera (rated at 96%)
MIBN Lince (rated at 93%)
MIBN Tigre (rated at 90%)
MIBN Chita (rated at 59%)
MIBN Ocelot
MIBN Felis
(rated at 97%)
MIBN Oncilla (rated at 96%)
MIBN Colocolo
MIBN Pampas
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
Sneak home and pray you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon