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Escadrille de Chasse
- 4x fighter aircraft, 4 pilots
Escadron de Chasse
- 4x escadrilles
- 4x spare fighter aircraft
- 1x utility aircraft
- Total: 20 fighters, 1 utility aircraft, 16-20 pilots
Groupe de Chasse
- Groupe Command & HQ, Staff
- Interception Contrôlée du Sol Staff
- 3 escadrons de chasse: 20 planes each
- 1 groupe reserve: 12-16 fighter aircraft
- 1 maintenance group
- 1 transport/utility escadrille
- Total: 60 fighter aircraft + 12-16 reserve aircraft
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Escadrille de Bombardement
- 3x bomber aircraft, 3 crews
Escadron de Bombardement
- 4x escadrilles
- 6x spare bomber aircraft
- 1x utility aircraft
- Total: 18 bombers, 1 utility aircraft, 12-16 bomber crews
Groupe de Bombardement
- Groupe Command & HQ, Staff
- 1 reconnaissance escadrille
- 3 escadrons de bombardement
- 1 groupe reserve: 12 bomber aircraft
- 1 maintenance group
- 1 transport/utility escadrille
- Total: 54 bombers + 12 reserve bombers, 4 reconnaissance aircraft, utility/cargo aircraft
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[SIZE=4]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Nord-Est - Z.O.A.N.E.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]Responsible for covering the northeast quadrant of France from the Franco-German-Swiss border to the mouth of the Seine. This Zone includes Paris, and therefore represents the largest concentration of the Armee de l’Aire’s strength in metropolitan France.[/SIZE]
Total:
- 10 Groupe de Chasse (G.C.)
- 4 Escadron de Chasse Nuit (E.C.N.)
- 6 Groupe de Bombardement (G.B.)
- 4 Groupe de Reconnaissance (G.R.)
- 12 Groupe Aérien d'Observation (G.A.O.)
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[SIZE=4]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Sud-Est - Z.O.A.S.E.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]Responsible for covering the south-east quadrant of France from the Franco-German-Swiss border to the mouth of the Rhone River.[/SIZE]
Total Strength:
- 11 Groupe de Chasse (G.C.)
- 1 Escadron de Chasse Nuit (E.C.N.)
- 5 Groupe de Bombardement (G.B.)
- 2 Groupe de Bombardement d'Assaut (G.B.A.)
- 5 Groupe de Reconnaissance (G.R.)
- 13 Groupe Aérien d'Observation (G.A.O.)
- 1 Groupe Aérien Mixte (G.A.M.)
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[SIZE=4]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Sud-Ouest - Z.O.A.S.O.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]Responsible for covering the south-west quadrant of France from the mouth of the Rhone River to the mouth of the Gironde Estuary.[/SIZE]
Total:
- 6 Groupe de Chasse (G.C.)
- 4 Groupe de Bombardement (G.B.)
- 3 Groupe de Reconnaissance (G.R.)
- 11 Groupe Aérien d'Observation (G.A.O.)
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[SIZE=4]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Nord-Ouest - Z.O.A.N.O.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]Responsible for covering the north-west quadrant of France from the mouth of the Gironde Estuary to the mouth of the Seine. This zone is the smallest of the four zones in Metropolitan France.[/SIZE]
Total:
- 2 Groupe de Chasse (G.C.)
- 2 Groupe de Bombardement (G.B.)
- 1 Groupe de Reconnaissance (G.R.)
- 3 Groupe Aérien d'Observation (G.A.O.)
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[SIZE=4]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Afrique du Nord - Z.O.A.A.N.[/SIZE]
Total:
- 2 Groupe de Chasse (G.C.)
- 4 Escadron Régionale de Chasse (E.R.C.)
- 9 Groupe de Bombardement (G.B.)
- 1 Groupe de Reconnaissance (G.R.)
- 7 Groupe Aérien d'Observation (G.A.O.)
- 3 Escadrille de Police et de Surveillance (E.P.S.)
- 1 Escadrille Saharienne (E.S.)
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[SIZE=4]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Proche-Orient - Z.O.A.P.O.[/SIZE]
Total:
- 1 Groupe de Chasse (G.C.)
- 1 Groupe de Bombardement (G.B.)
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[SIZE=4]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Indochine - Z.O.A.I.[/SIZE]
Total:
- 13 Groupe de Chasse (G.C.)
- 6 Groupe de Bombardement (G.B.)
- 4 Groupe Aérien d'Observation (G.A.O.)
- 2 Escadron de Reconnaissance (E.R.)
- 2 Escadron de Bombardement (E.B.)
- 2 Escadron d'Observation (E.O.)
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[SIZE=4]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Pacifique - Z.O.A.P.[/SIZE]
Total:
- 2 Groupe Aérien Mixte (G.A.M.)
- 1 Escadron de Reconnaissance (E.R.)
- 1 Escadron de Bombardement (E.B.)
- 1 Escadron d'Observation (E.O.)
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[SIZE=4]GRAND TOTAL:[/SIZE]
- Groupe de Chasse (G.C.): 45
- Groupe de Bombardement (G.B.): 33
- Groupe de Reconnaissance (G.R.): 14
- Groupe Aérien d'Observation (G.A.O.): 50
- Groupe de Bombardement d'Assaut (G.B.A.): 2
- Groupe Aérien Mixte (G.A.M.): 3
- Escadron de Chasse Nuit (E.C.N.): 5
- Escadron de Reconnaissance (E.R.): 3
- Escadron de Bombardement (E.B.): 3
- Escadron d'Observation (E.O.): 3
- Escadron Régionale de Chasse (E.R.C.): 4
- Escadrille de Police et de Surveillance (E.P.S.): 3
- Escadrille Saharienne (E.S.): 1
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[SIZE=5]Metropolitan France[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Nord-Est - Z.O.A.N.E.[/SIZE]
- G.C. I/2: 76x Dewoitine D.520, 2x Nord Pingouin (converting to VG.60 Revenant)
- G.C. I/3: 76x Dewoitine D.524, 2x Nord Pingouin (converting to VG.60 Revenant)
- G.C. I/7: 76x Arsenal VG.37, 2x Nord Pingouin
- G.C. II/2: 76x Dewoitine D.520, 2x Nord Pingouin (slated for conversion to VG.60 Revenant in 1941)
- G.C. II/3: 76x Dewoitine D.520, 2x Nord Pingouin (slated for conversion to VG.60 Revenant in 1941)
- G.C. II/7: 76x Morane-Saulnier MS.406, 2x Nord Pingouin (converting to VG.60 Revenant)
- G.C. II/9: 76x Morane-Saulnier MS.406, 2x Nord Pingouin (converting to VG.60 Revenant)
- G.C. IV/1: 76x Dewoitine D.524, 2x Nord Pingouin
- G.C. IV/3: 76x Arsenal VG.39bis, 2x Nord Pingouin
- G.C. IV/9: 76x Morane-Saulnier MS.410, 2x Nord Pingouin (converting to VG.60 Revenant)
- G.C.N. V/6: 76x MB.178CN, 2x Nord Pingouin
[SIZE=3]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Nord-Ouest - Z.O.A.N.O.[/SIZE]
- G.C. II/8: 76x Bloch MB.155, 2x Nord Pingouin
- G.C. IV/7: 76x Arsenal VG.33, 2x Nord Pingouin (slated for conversion to VG.60 Revenant in 1941)
[SIZE=3]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Sud-Est - Z.O.A.S.E.[/SIZE]
- G.C. I/1: 76x Dewoitine D.524, 2x Nord Pingouin
- G.C. I/4: 76x Arsenal VG.33, 2x Nord Pingouin (slated for conversion to VG.60 Revenant in 1941)
- G.C. I/10: 76x Morane-Saulnier MS.406, 2x Nord Pingouin (slated for conversion to VG.60 Revenant in 1941)
- G.C. II/1: 76x Dewoitine D.524, 2x Nord Pingouin
- G.C. III/1: 76x Bloch MB.155, 2x Nord Pingouin
- G.C. III/2: 76x Arsenal VG.33, 2x Nord Pingouin (slated for conversion to VG.60 Revenant in 1941)
- G.C. III/5: 76x Bloch MB.152, 2x Nord Pingouin (converting to VG.60 Revenant)
- G.C. III/7: 76x Arsenal VG.33, 2x Nord Pingouin (slated for conversion to VG.60 Revenant in 1941)
- G.C. III/9: 76x Arsenal VG.37, 2x Nord Pingouin
- G.C. IV/5: 76x Arsenal VG.36, 2x Nord Pingouin
- G.C. V/4: 76x Morane-Saulnier MS.406, 2x Nord Pingouin (converting to VG.60 Revenant)
- G.C.N. V/7: 76x MB.178CN, 2x Nord Pingouin
[SIZE=3]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Sud-Ouest - Z.O.A.S.O.[/SIZE]
- G.C. I/6: 76x Dewoitine D.520, 2x Nord Pingouin (slated for conversion to VG.60 Revenant in 1941)
- G.C. II/6: 76x Arsenal VG.33, 2x Nord Pingouin
- G.C. III/6: 76x Morane-Saulnier MS.406, 2x Nord Pingouin (converting to VG.60 Revenant)
- G.C. III/8: 76x Bloch MB.152, 2x Nord Pingouin (converting to VG.60 Revenant)
- G.C. IV/8: 76x Arsenal VG.37, 2x Nord Pingouin
- G.C. V/1: 76x Arsenal VG.33, 2x Nord Pingouin (slated for conversion to VG.60 Revenant in 1941)
[SIZE=5]Outre-mer[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Afrique du Nord - Z.O.A.A.N.[/SIZE]
- G.C. III/4: 76x Dewoitine D.520, 2x Caudron Simoun (slated for conversion to VG.60 Revenant in 1941)
- G.C. IV/4: 76x Arsenal VG.39bis, 2x Caudron Simoun
[SIZE=3]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Indochine - Z.O.A.I.[/SIZE]
- G.C. I/5: 76x Morane-Saulnier MS.406, 2x Caudron Simoun (converting to Dewoitine D.525 Bourrasque)
- G.C. I/8: 76x Bloch MB.155, 2x Caudron Simoun
- G.C. I/9: 76x Morane-Saulnier MS.410, 2x Caudron Simoun
- G.C. II/4: 76x Dewoitine D.520, 2x Caudron Simoun
- G.C. II/5: 76x Arsenal VG.39bis, 2x Caudron Simoun
- G.C. II/10: 76x Arsenal VG.36, 2x Caudron Simoun
- G.C. III/3: 76x Bloch MB.155, 2x Caudron Simoun
- G.C. III/10: 76x Bloch MB.152, 2x Caudron Simoun
- G.C. IV/2: 76x Arsenal VG.39bis, 2x Caudron Simoun
- G.C. IV/6: 76x Morane-Saulnier MS.410, 2x Caudron Simoun (converting to Dewoitine D.525 Bourrasque)
- G.C. IV/10: 76x Morane-Saulnier MS.410, 2x Caudron Simoun (converting to Dewoitine D.525 Bourrasque)
- G.C. V/3: 76x Bloch MB.152, 2x Caudron Simoun
- G.C. V/5: 76x Morane-Saulnier MS.410, 2x Caudron Simoun (converting to Dewoitine D.525 Bourrasque)
[SIZE=3]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Proche-Orient - Z.O.A.P.O.[/SIZE]
- G.C. V/2: 76x Arsenal VG.37, 2x Caudron Simoun
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[SIZE=5]Metropolitan France[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Nord-Est - Z.O.A.N.E.[/SIZE]
- G.B. I/17: 66x Breguet 690, 2x Nord Pingouin
- G.B. I/21: 66x Amiot 354, 2x Nord Pingouin
- G.B. I/29: 66x Breguet 690, 2x Nord Pingouin
- G.B. I/50: 66x Lioré et Olivier LeO 451, 2x Caudron Simoun
- G.B. I/52: 66x Amiot 354, 2x Caudron Simoun
- G.B. I/58: 66x Bloch MB.162, 2x Caudron Simoun
[SIZE=3]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Nord-Ouest - Z.O.A.N.O.[/SIZE]
- G.B. I/25: 66x Breguet 690, 2x Nord Pingouin
- G.B. I/55: 66x Bloch MB.170, 2x Nord Pingouin
[SIZE=3]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Sud-Est - Z.O.A.S.E.[/SIZE]
- G.B. I/23: 66x Hanriot H.250, 2x Nord Pingouin
- G.B. I/26: 66x Bloch MB.170, 2x Caudron Simoun
- G.B. I/56: 66x Farman F.380, 2x Caudron Simoun
- G.B.A. II/15: 66x Morane-Saulnier MS.440, 2x Caudron Simoun
- G.B.A. II/16: 66x Morane-Saulnier MS.440, 2x Nord Pingouin
- G.B. II/17: 66x Lioré et Olivier LeO 451, 2x Caudron Simoun
- G.B. II/20: 66x Lioré et Olivier LeO 451, 2x Nord Pingouin
[SIZE=3]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Sud-Ouest - Z.O.A.S.O.[/SIZE]
- G.B. I/19: 66x Loire-Nieuport LN.401, 2x Nord Pingouin
- G.B. I/28: 66x Lioré et Olivier LeO 451, 2x Caudron Simoun
- G.B. I/57: 66x Bloch MB.162, 2x Nord Pingouin
- G.B. II/19: 66x Bloch MB.170, 2x Caudron Simoun
[SIZE=5]Outre-mer[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Afrique du Nord - Z.O.A.A.N.[/SIZE]
- G.B. I/16: 66x Bloch MB.162, 2x Caudron Simoun
- G.B. I/18: 66x Amiot 354, 2x Caudron Simoun
- G.B. I/20: 66x Lioré et Olivier LeO 451, 2x Caudron Simoun
- G.B. I/24: 66x Lioré et Olivier LeO 451, 2x Caudron Simoun
- G.B. I/27: 66x Lioré et Olivier LeO 451, 2x Nord Pingouin
- G.B. I/54: 66x Lioré et Olivier LeO 451, 2x Caudron Simoun
- G.B. II/21: 66x Bloch MB.162, 2x Caudron Simoun
- G.B. II/22: 66x Lioré et Olivier LeO 451, 2x Nord Pingouin
- G.B. II/24: 66x Bloch MB.170, 2x Nord Pingouin
[SIZE=3]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Indochine - Z.O.A.I.[/SIZE]
- G.B. I/15: 66x Farman F.380, 2x Nord Pingouin
- G.B. I/22: 66x Breguet 690, 2x Caudron Simoun
- G.B. I/51: 66x Hanriot H.250, 2x Nord Pingouin
- G.B. I/59: 66x Breguet 690, 2x Nord Pingouin
- G.B. II/18: 66x Hanriot H.250, 2x Nord Pingouin
- G.B. II/23: 66x Bloch MB.170, 2x Caudron Simoun
[SIZE=3]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Proche-Orient - Z.O.A.P.O.[/SIZE]
- G.B. I/53: 66x Hanriot H.250, 2x Nord Pingouin
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[SIZE=5]Metropolitan France[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Nord-Est - Z.O.A.N.E.[/SIZE]
- G.A.O. 505: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.A.O. 506: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Caudron Simoun
- G.A.O. 507: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.A.O. 513: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.A.O. 519: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.A.O. 522: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Caudron Simoun
- G.A.O. 527: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.A.O. 531: 12x Potez 63.11, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.A.O. 537: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.A.O. 540: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Caudron Simoun
- G.A.O. 544: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Caudron Simoun
- G.A.O. 548: 12x Potez 63.11, 1x Caudron Simoun
- G.R. I/30: 12x Bloch MB.175, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.R. I/32: 12x Bloch MB.175, 1x Caudron Simoun
- G.R. I/35: 12x Bloch MB.175, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.R. I/37: 12x Bloch MB.175, 1x Caudron Simoun
[SIZE=3]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Nord-Ouest - Z.O.A.N.O.[/SIZE]
- G.A.O. 511: 12x Potez 63.11, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.A.O. 530: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Caudron Simoun
- G.A.O. 543: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.R. II/38: 12x Bloch MB.175, 1x Nord Pingouin
[SIZE=3]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Sud-Est - Z.O.A.S.E.[/SIZE]
- G.A.O. 501: 12x Potez 63.11, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.A.O. 509: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.A.O. 510: 12x Potez 63.11, 1x Caudron Simoun
- G.A.O. 518: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Caudron Simoun
- G.A.O. 520: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Caudron Simoun
- G.A.O. 523: 12x Potez 63.11, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.A.O. 525: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.A.O. 529: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.A.O. 541: 12x Potez 63.11, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.A.O. 545: 12x Potez 63.11, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.A.O. 546: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Caudron Simoun
- G.A.O. 547: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.A.O. 549: 12x Potez 63.11, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.R. I/39: 12x Bloch MB.175, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.R. II/30: 12x Bloch MB.175, 1x Caudron Simoun
- G.R. II/31: 12x Bloch MB.175, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.R. II/33: 12x Bloch MB.175, 1x Caudron Simoun
- G.R. II/34: 12x Bloch MB.175, 1x Nord Pingouin
[SIZE=3]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Sud-Ouest - Z.O.A.S.O.[/SIZE]
- G.A.O. 502: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Caudron Simoun
- G.A.O. 503: 12x ANF Les Mureaux 113, 1x Nord Pingouin (slated for conversion to Caudron C.710)
- G.A.O. 504: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Caudron Simoun
- G.A.O. 508: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Caudron Simoun
- G.A.O. 512: 12x, Caudron C.710, 1x Caudron Simoun
- G.A.O. 516: 12x, Caudron C.710, 1x Caudron Simoun
- G.A.O. 517: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.A.O. 526: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Caudron Simoun
- G.A.O. 528: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Caudron Simoun
- G.A.O. 532: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Caudron Simoun
- G.A.O. 534: 12x Potez 39, 1x Caudron Simoun (slated for conversion to Caudron C.710)
- G.R. II/35: 12x Bloch MB.175, 1x Caudron Simoun
- G.R. II/36: 12x Bloch MB.175, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.R. II/37: 12x Bloch MB.175, 1x Caudron Simoun
[SIZE=5]Outre-mer[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Afrique du Nord - Z.O.A.A.N.[/SIZE]
- G.A.O. 515: 12x Caudron C.710 12, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.A.O. 521: 12x Caudron C.710 12, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.A.O. 524: 12x Potez 39, 1x Caudron Simoun (slated for conversion to Caudron C.710)
- G.A.O. 533: 12x Potez 63.11, 1x Nord Pingouin (slated for conversion to Caudron C.710)
- G.A.O. 538: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.A.O. 539: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Nord Pingouin
- G.A.O. 550: 12x Caudron C.710, 1x Caudron Simoun
- G.R. II/39: 12x Bloch MB.175, 1x Caudron Simoun
[SIZE=3]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Indochine - Z.O.A.I.[/SIZE]
- G.A.O. 514: 12x Bréguet 27, 1x Caudron Simoun (slated for conversion to TNAC "Criquet")
- G.A.O. 535: 12x ANF Les Mureaux 113, 1x Nord Pingouin (slated for conversion to TNAC "Criquet")
- G.A.O. 536: 12x Bréguet 27, 1x Caudron Simoun (slated for conversion to TNAC "Criquet")
- G.A.O. 542: 12x Potez 63.11, 1x Caudron Simoun
[SIZE=3]Zone d'Opérations Aériennes Proche-Orient - Z.O.A.P.O.[/SIZE]
- N/A
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Originally posted by Brockpaine
[SIZE=3]Aircraft in Service 1/1/41[/SIZE]
- MS406/410: 836x
- D.520: 456x
- D.524: 304x
- VG.33: 456x
- VG.36/VG.37: 456x
- VG.39bis: 304x
- Bloch MB.152: 304x
- Bloch MB.155: 304x
- MB.178CN: 152x
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Originally posted by Brockpaine
[SIZE=3]Aircraft in Service 1/1/41[/SIZE]
- Loire-Nieuport LN.401: 66x
- Morane-Saulnier MS.440: 132x
- Breguet 690: 330x
- Bloch MB.170: 330x
- Lioré et Olivier LeO 451: 594x
- Amiot 354: 198x
- Farman F.380: 132x
- Hanriot H.250: 264x
- Bloch MB.162: 264x
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Originally posted by Brockpaine
So it's quite inaccurate to say that they're all "in service" at any given time. It would be more accurate to say "France has, had, could have, or could have had up to X many aircraft in service."
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Originally posted by HoOmAn
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Originally posted by Brockpaine
So it's quite inaccurate to say that they're all "in service" at any given time. It would be more accurate to say "France has, had, could have, or could have had up to X many aircraft in service."
Well, if that is true - what is the added value of posting those numbers at all?
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Originally posted by HoOmAn
If your message is "France has, had, could have, or could have had up to X many aircraft in service" the reader cannot be sure what is actually true, what the provided values actually stand for. So I wonder what the added value is of posting them at all.
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Originally posted by HoOmAn
No, that´s still not what I meant.
For example, you posted numbers for your fighters. For me, that read as if those where total numbers of front line units in service - because the headline says so. "In service" means to me, you can always put a pilot in and off the runway. So the number of planes in service is the number of planes a potential enemy has to face.
Bu then you state that your values only provide what France has or had or could have or whatever. So as a reader I´m lost as to what your numbers actually represent. Hence they are of little value to me. What´s the point in posting numbers every reader can or has to interpret by himself?
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