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Friday, June 18th 2004, 4:50am

Fleet train

I've posted this on the warships one forum, but it seems to be getting drowned out by continuations of old posts, so I'll ask the question here.

In a WW1 or 2 scenario to what extent can some repairships fix warships outside of shipyards and what is the extent of their onboard workshops? How many stores do depot ships carry for destroyers and submarines? What if any would be the ideal ratio of warships to tenders?

HoOmAn

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Friday, June 18th 2004, 11:24am

Hmmm...

There´s a lot that can be done using a depot and/or repair vessel.

When PG was hit by a TT aft she made it to Normay. Her stern was vut off there and a twin aux rudder installed. She then sailed home, survived air attacks and got a new stern at her home yard, IIRC.

TIRPITZ also was damaged more than once and until the mini-subs really hurt her badly the teams of the repair vessels and depot ships around her were able to bring her back to service every time.

So at least the Germans had decent repair vessels that featured enough tools for large repairs (as long as no docking was necessary). I´m not sure if this was because the Germans had to plan being without bases or if all other navies also had such vessels.

Maybe you should update your question on warships1? I´m pretty sure you´ll dig out interesting information there if you try hard enough.

Ciao,

HoOmAn

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Friday, June 18th 2004, 4:37pm

From "Japanese Warships of WWII" by A. J. Watts (the book is improbably sitting on my desk at work...)

-Asahi: old pre-dread or AC, converted to sub salvage/repair/training ship in 1922.

-Akashi: purpose-built repair ship, laid down in 1937. 9,000 t, 19 kts, three large cranes shown in a crude line drawing. No details on capabilities. Four other units were proposed but cancelled.

-Six merchant ships converted to repair ships, no details available.

I recall the Brits converted one of their CVLs to a repair ship while building. I think it was HMS Unicorn. What she repaired, and how well she did it, I can't say right now.

-www.german-navy.de does provide some info on German units that Stephan alludes to.

-http://www.history.navy.mil/danfs/v2/vestal.htm is a lengthy account of what all the USS Vestal did during WW2. Pretty impressive list of things that she could and did do.

http://www.history.navy.mil/danfs/m8/medusa-ii.htm for USS Medusa.

http://www.history.navy.mil/danfs/v4/vulcan-iii.htm for USS Vulcan.

http://www.history.navy.mil/danfs/a8/amphion-ii.htm for USS Amphion

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Friday, June 18th 2004, 11:05pm

Thanks for the info on this subject guys, any idea how much weight all this equipment takes up?

As for HMS Unicorn she was an aircraft maintinance carrier and in addition the Colossus class carrier HMS Pioneer was also converted for this role.

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Sunday, June 20th 2004, 2:48am

No clue offhand but since some of the US ships were colliers when built, you might sim the ship as collier and as repair ship, and see what differences you get.