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Turkish R Refit, Great Britain Battleship laid down 1913

Displacement:
26,193 t light; 28,225 t standard; 29,861 t normal; 31,169 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
624.50 ft / 624.50 ft x 88.50 ft x 30.50 ft (normal load)
190.35 m / 190.35 m x 26.97 m x 9.30 m

Armament:
8 - 15.00" / 381 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1,938.00lbs / 879.06kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
Main guns limited to end-on fire
12 - 5.90" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 102.69lbs / 46.58kg shells, 1936 Model
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
on side, all amidships
8 - 3.46" / 88.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 20.79lbs / 9.43kg shells, 1940 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1939 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
24 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (16 mounts), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1939 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 16,933 lbs / 7,681 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 13.0" / 330 mm 420.00 ft / 128.02 m 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
Ends: 6.00" / 152 mm 204.00 ft / 62.18 m 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
Upper: 6.00" / 152 mm 310.00 ft / 94.49 m 8.00 ft / 2.44 m
Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
2.50" / 64 mm 510.00 ft / 155.45 m 28.00 ft / 8.53 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13.0" / 330 mm 8.00" / 203 mm 8.00" / 203 mm
2nd: 1.00" / 25 mm 0.50" / 13 mm -
3rd: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
4th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -

- Armour deck: 3.00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 11.00" / 279 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 48,126 shp / 35,902 Kw = 23.00 kts
Range 6,100nm at 13.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,944 tons

Complement:
1,135 - 1,476

Cost:
£2.998 million / $11.993 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1,866 tons, 6.2 %
Armour: 10,354 tons, 34.7 %
- Belts: 4,048 tons, 13.6 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 1,321 tons, 4.4 %
- Armament: 2,471 tons, 8.3 %
- Armour Deck: 2,286 tons, 7.7 %
- Conning Tower: 228 tons, 0.8 %
Machinery: 1,886 tons, 6.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 11,937 tons, 40.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,668 tons, 12.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 150 tons, 0.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
43,529 lbs / 19,744 Kg = 25.8 x 15.0 " / 381 mm shells or 6.9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 5.0 ft / 1.5 m
Roll period: 16.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 1.22
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.45

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low quarterdeck
Block coefficient: 0.620
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.06 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24.99 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 35
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26.00 ft / 7.92 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 25.00 ft / 7.62 m
- Mid (50 %): 24.00 ft / 7.32 m
- Quarterdeck (30 %): 16.00 ft / 4.88 m (24.00 ft / 7.32 m before break)
- Stern: 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Average freeboard: 22.03 ft / 6.71 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 91.1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 167.9 %
Waterplane Area: 41,182 Square feet or 3,826 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 102 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 198 lbs/sq ft or 965 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.94
- Longitudinal: 1.74
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Planned refit and refurbishment for life extension

Replacement of 6in casemate-mounted gns with 5.9in guns
Addition of four twin 88mm AA mounts
Addition of eight twin 37mm mounts
Addition of eight twin 20mm and eight single 20mm cannon
Elevation of 15in guns increased to 30 degrees
New directors and fire-control systems

Quoted

Originally posted by thesmilingassassin
Armament:
8 - 15.00" / 381 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1,938.00lbs / 879.06kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
Main guns limited to end-on fire

Yeah, that's going to be a problem.

Considering how high it is, I'm sure that something major is going to need to be done.

Wes,

Shouldn't she be bulged as well? Historically the went to 102 ft in beam...

And the increased hull strength should solve the 'end-on' fire warning...

My thoughts,

Hmmm, missed that bit. The sim is acctually Hood's so thanks for the catch gentlemen!

Ok my attempt.

Resadiye (ex-Resolution), Turkish (Ex-British) Battleship laid down 1913

Displacement:
30,822 t light; 32,781 t standard; 34,584 t normal; 36,027 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
624.50 ft / 624.50 ft x 88.50 ft (Bulges 102.50 ft) x 30.50 ft (normal load)
190.35 m / 190.35 m x 26.97 m (Bulges 31.24 m) x 9.30 m

Armament:
8 - 15.00" / 381 mm guns in single mounts, 1,687.50lbs / 765.44kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 4 raised mounts - superfiring
12 - 5.90" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 102.69lbs / 46.58kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
on side, all amidships
8 - 3.46" / 87.9 mm guns (4x2 guns), 20.71lbs / 9.39kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 1.54lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
24 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (16 mounts), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 14,929 lbs / 6,771 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 13.0" / 330 mm 420.00 ft / 128.02 m 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
Ends: 6.00" / 152 mm 204.00 ft / 62.18 m 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
Upper: 6.00" / 152 mm 310.00 ft / 94.49 m 8.00 ft / 2.44 m
Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13.0" / 330 mm 8.00" / 203 mm 8.00" / 203 mm
2nd: 1.00" / 25 mm 0.50" / 13 mm -
3rd: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
4th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -

- Armour deck: 3.00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 11.00" / 279 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 53,753 shp / 40,100 Kw = 23.00 kts
Range 6,100nm at 13.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,246 tons

Complement:
1,267 - 1,648

Cost:
£3.209 million / $12.834 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1,866 tons, 5.4 %
Armour: 7,850 tons, 22.7 %
- Belts: 4,048 tons, 11.7 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 1,264 tons, 3.7 %
- Armour Deck: 2,286 tons, 6.6 %
- Conning Tower: 252 tons, 0.7 %
Machinery: 2,106 tons, 6.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 18,850 tons, 54.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,762 tons, 10.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 150 tons, 0.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
57,236 lbs / 25,962 Kg = 33.9 x 15.0 " / 381 mm shells or 5.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.26
Metacentric height 6.3 ft / 1.9 m
Roll period: 17.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 52 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.60
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.49

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low quarterdeck
Block coefficient: 0.620
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.09 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24.99 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 35
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26.00 ft / 7.92 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 25.00 ft / 7.62 m
- Mid (50 %): 25.00 ft / 7.62 m
- Quarterdeck (30 %): 16.00 ft / 4.88 m (25.00 ft / 7.62 m before break)
- Stern: 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Average freeboard: 22.38 ft / 6.82 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 62.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 154.8 %
Waterplane Area: 41,182 Square feet or 3,826 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 127 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 299 lbs/sq ft or 1,460 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.58
- Longitudinal: 2.81
- Overall: 1.67
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Just realised the torpedo bulkhead was 0.5" thicker than the orriginal ship springstyle.

Resadiye (ex-Resolution), Turkish (Ex-British) Battleship laid down 1913

Displacement:
30,822 t light; 32,781 t standard; 34,584 t normal; 36,027 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
624.50 ft / 624.50 ft x 88.50 ft (Bulges 102.50 ft) x 30.50 ft (normal load)
190.35 m / 190.35 m x 26.97 m (Bulges 31.24 m) x 9.30 m

Armament:
8 - 15.00" / 381 mm guns in single mounts, 1,687.50lbs / 765.44kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 4 raised mounts - superfiring
12 - 5.90" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 102.69lbs / 46.58kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
on side, all amidships
8 - 3.46" / 87.9 mm guns (4x2 guns), 20.71lbs / 9.39kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 1.54lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
24 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (16 mounts), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 14,928 lbs / 6,771 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 13.0" / 330 mm 420.00 ft / 128.02 m 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
Ends: 6.00" / 152 mm 204.00 ft / 62.18 m 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
Upper: 6.00" / 152 mm 310.00 ft / 94.49 m 8.00 ft / 2.44 m
Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13.0" / 330 mm 8.00" / 203 mm 8.00" / 203 mm
2nd: 1.00" / 25 mm 0.50" / 13 mm -
3rd: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
4th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -

- Armour deck: 3.00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 11.00" / 279 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 53,753 shp / 40,100 Kw = 23.00 kts
Range 6,100nm at 13.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,246 tons

Complement:
1,267 - 1,648

Cost:
£3.209 million / $12.834 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1,866 tons, 5.4 %
Armour: 7,850 tons, 22.7 %
- Belts: 4,048 tons, 11.7 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 1,264 tons, 3.7 %
- Armour Deck: 2,286 tons, 6.6 %
- Conning Tower: 252 tons, 0.7 %
Machinery: 2,106 tons, 6.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 18,850 tons, 54.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,762 tons, 10.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 150 tons, 0.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
57,237 lbs / 25,962 Kg = 33.9 x 15.0 " / 381 mm shells or 5.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.26
Metacentric height 6.3 ft / 1.9 m
Roll period: 17.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 52 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.60
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.49

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low quarterdeck
Block coefficient: 0.620
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.09 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24.99 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 35
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26.00 ft / 7.92 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 25.00 ft / 7.62 m
- Mid (50 %): 25.00 ft / 7.62 m
- Quarterdeck (30 %): 16.00 ft / 4.88 m (25.00 ft / 7.62 m before break)
- Stern: 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Average freeboard: 22.38 ft / 6.82 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 62.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 154.8 %
Waterplane Area: 41,182 Square feet or 3,826 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 127 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 299 lbs/sq ft or 1,460 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.58
- Longitudinal: 2.81
- Overall: 1.67
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Quoted

Armament:
8 - 15.00" / 381 mm guns in single mounts, 1,687.50lbs / 765.44kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 4 raised mounts - superfiring
12 - 5.90" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 102.69lbs / 46.58kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
on side, all amidships
8 - 3.46" / 87.9 mm guns (4x2 guns), 20.71lbs / 9.39kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 1.54lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
24 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (16 mounts), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 14,928 lbs / 6,771 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Suppose that's going to be fixed before the ship is commisioned....

Honestly, I think the AA suit on this ship is rather weak for the time period. I'd consider doubling that, personally, or adding guns superfiring over the 15'' guns. JMHO.

You have a lot of extra hull strength. Something you could possibely do with that, or you could reduce the bulges to make it cheaper.

If you are going for a 50% refit, which it appears as if you are, since there isn't any coal firing, I'd recommend you increase the deck armour with the extra strength.

15" guns in single mounts? IIRC the Revenge Class have four dual turrets with two superfiring.

Heh, missed that too....15'' guns in deck mounts with hoists......

Quoted

Originally posted by thesmilingassassin
Just realised the torpedo bulkhead was 0.5" thicker than the orriginal ship springstyle.

Resadiye (ex-Resolution), Turkish (Ex-British) Battleship laid down 1913

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 13.0" / 330 mm 420.00 ft / 128.02 m 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
Ends: 6.00" / 152 mm 204.00 ft / 62.18 m 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
Upper: 6.00" / 152 mm 310.00 ft / 94.49 m 8.00 ft / 2.44 m
Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13.0" / 330 mm 8.00" / 203 mm 8.00" / 203 mm
2nd: 1.00" / 25 mm 0.50" / 13 mm -
3rd: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
4th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -

- Armour deck: 3.00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 11.00" / 279 mm

Well...there should be a torpedo bulkhead there, but I don't see it.
I'm also dubious that the barbettes were 8", or the casement faces 1". According to Conways, while designed for 16 x 6", they were resited during construction and 4 aft dropped, while 2 added, so 14 as built- the last two appear to be decklevel casements

Sigh.....talk about a rush job.

Quoted

Originally posted by Kaiser Kirk
I'm also dubious that the barbettes were 8", or the casement faces 1". According to Conways, while designed for 16 x 6", they were resited during construction and 4 aft dropped, while 2 added, so 14 as built- the last two appear to be decklevel casements

Armour wise I'm basically going off what James sent me in his sim which appears to build on what Gravina posted in the UK section, 8".

I'm also NOT aiming for a 50% refit as there is the addition of bulges but no modifications to the TDS.

Hopefully all the bugs are now out of the design....

Resadiye (ex-Resolution), Turkish (Ex-British) Battleship laid down 1913

Displacement:
30,822 t light; 32,781 t standard; 34,584 t normal; 36,027 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
624.50 ft / 624.50 ft x 88.50 ft (Bulges 102.50 ft) x 30.50 ft (normal load)
190.35 m / 190.35 m x 26.97 m (Bulges 31.24 m) x 9.30 m

Armament:
8 - 15.00" / 381 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1,687.50lbs / 765.44kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
12 - 5.90" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 102.69lbs / 46.58kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
on side, all amidships
8 - 3.46" / 87.9 mm guns (4x2 guns), 20.71lbs / 9.39kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 1.54lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
24 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (16 mounts), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 14,928 lbs / 6,771 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 13.0" / 330 mm 420.00 ft / 128.02 m 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
Ends: 6.00" / 152 mm 204.00 ft / 62.18 m 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
Upper: 6.00" / 152 mm 310.00 ft / 94.49 m 8.00 ft / 2.44 m
Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
2.00" / 51 mm 510.00 ft / 155.45 m 28.00 ft / 8.53 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13.0" / 330 mm 8.00" / 203 mm 8.00" / 203 mm
2nd: 1.00" / 25 mm 0.50" / 13 mm -
3rd: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
4th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -

- Armour deck: 3.00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 11.00" / 279 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 53,753 shp / 40,100 Kw = 23.00 kts
Range 6,100nm at 13.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,246 tons

Complement:
1,267 - 1,648

Cost:
£3.209 million / $12.834 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1,866 tons, 5.4 %
Armour: 10,156 tons, 29.4 %
- Belts: 4,048 tons, 11.7 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 1,057 tons, 3.1 %
- Armament: 2,514 tons, 7.3 %
- Armour Deck: 2,286 tons, 6.6 %
- Conning Tower: 252 tons, 0.7 %
Machinery: 2,106 tons, 6.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 16,543 tons, 47.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,762 tons, 10.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 150 tons, 0.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
56,031 lbs / 25,415 Kg = 33.2 x 15.0 " / 381 mm shells or 9.7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.20
Metacentric height 5.9 ft / 1.8 m
Roll period: 17.8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.62
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.44

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low quarterdeck
Block coefficient: 0.620
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.09 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24.99 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 35
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26.00 ft / 7.92 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 25.00 ft / 7.62 m
- Mid (50 %): 25.00 ft / 7.62 m
- Quarterdeck (30 %): 16.00 ft / 4.88 m (25.00 ft / 7.62 m before break)
- Stern: 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Average freeboard: 22.38 ft / 6.82 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 81.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 154.8 %
Waterplane Area: 41,182 Square feet or 3,826 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 117 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 262 lbs/sq ft or 1,281 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.27
- Longitudinal: 2.24
- Overall: 1.35
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Did the British refitted the engines? The original revenge was oil/coal fired engines, So I have to agree with Texan Cowboy that if you mention oil only is a 50% refit. But I don't know if the SIM allows you to have a dual oil/coal system.

Also the terciary and AA armament I guess needs to be changed to 1940.

I think I'd agree. Actually, Turkey still has excellent coal reserves, so it might be more economical for Turkey to continue using the oil/coal-fired plant.

I based my R on the Gravina SS file.

Really I didn't want to assume the ships had been bulged in the 1920s because I couldn't find proof of that SIM wise with previous players and I didn't fancy saying "Hey guys my ships suddenly acquired bulges for free" as that would open a big can o' worms.

I'm not too fussed about what SS says as we all know those QEs and Rs when built fired their guns in anger and didn't tip over.

And yes my error, it should be coal and oil.

Hmmm I thought the orriginal sim by Gravina had them using oil fired boilers only?

Well for Revenge herself the bulges would have been pre-SIM. Not so for some of the rest.


Revenge (ex Renown)
Built by Vickers. Laid down 22 Dec 1913, launched 29 May 1915,
completed 3/1916. Fitted with bulges 10/1917-2/1918. Seaplane carrier
Campania drifted across her bows during a gale 5 Nov 1918,
sinking the carrier. Sold for scrapping 9/1948.

And from another site :
the Revenge class were smaller and cheaper than the QE’s and they were to be coal fired, thankfully during construction the design was altered and they reverted back to oil firing, original bunker capacity had been planned at 3,000 tons of coal and 1,500 tons of oil, this was changed to 3,400 tons of oil and 150 tons of coal but still gave a rather short range of action.

and from yet another the genisis for the change:
When Admiral Fisher returned from retirement as First Sea Lord he had the design altered to all oil fired.

Whitley also states all oil firing and also states Fishers hand in altering the design to all oil firing.

Conway's fighting ships 1906-1921 states the design was changed to oil only in January 1915. I guess this piece of info could help.

The way it was simmed in the encyclopedia, it is mixed coal and oil firing. The way it was in RL is irelevent, since the refit needs to be based off of the sim in the encyclopedia, IMHO.