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thesmilingassassin

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Wednesday, June 30th 2010, 10:44pm

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Originally posted by TexanCowboy
IC: Latvia fully supports this notion of doing away with the Trianion treaty.

OOC: If we go by the official treaty, with only a few modifications to mold it better to WW history, (No US, various states that in WW are part of Iberia, Atlantis), we get: Atlantis, The British Empire, France, Italy, Japan, Belgium, China, Greece, Poland, Romania, Yugoslavia, Siam, and Czechoslovakia. Those are the states needed to repeal the treaty. So China does matter! :)

How do you get China and Siam into that list?!

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Wednesday, June 30th 2010, 10:49pm

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Originally posted by thesmilingassassin

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Originally posted by TexanCowboy
IC: Latvia fully supports this notion of doing away with the Trianion treaty.

OOC: If we go by the official treaty, with only a few modifications to mold it better to WW history, (No US, various states that in WW are part of Iberia, Atlantis), we get: Atlantis, The British Empire, France, Italy, Japan, Belgium, China, Greece, Poland, Romania, Yugoslavia, Siam, and Czechoslovakia. Those are the states needed to repeal the treaty. So China does matter! :)

How do you get China and Siam into that list?!


They were allied nations in the Great War. They also signed the Versailles Treaty.

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Wednesday, June 30th 2010, 11:10pm

I don't recall China and Siam being part of the real world treaty of Trianon, nor do I recall China and Siam taking part in the WW great war.

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Wednesday, June 30th 2010, 11:17pm

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Treaty of Trianon, and Protocol THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE BRITISH EMPIRE, FRANCE, ITALY and JAPAN, These Powers being described in the present Treaty as the Principal Allied and Associated Powers, BELGIUM, CHINA, CUBA, GREECE, NICARAGUA, PANAMA, POLAND, PORTUGAL, ROUMANIA, THE SERB-CROAT-SLOVENE STATE, SIAM, and CZECHOSLOVAKIA, These Powers constituting with the Principal Powers mentioned above the Allied and Associated Powers,

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Sachmle" (Jun 30th 2010, 11:17pm)

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Wednesday, June 30th 2010, 11:29pm

Thank you, Sachmle.

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Thursday, July 1st 2010, 12:07am

Is that from our treaty section? Because if it is I can't find it.

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Thursday, July 1st 2010, 12:08am

It's the historical Treaty of Trianon.

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Thursday, July 1st 2010, 12:29am

Historical as in: completely the same except for the deletion of nations not exsisting in WW and the US, since they weren't invovled in WWI, and the adding of Atlantis.

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Thursday, July 1st 2010, 1:41am

Its missing Nordmark, who IIRC, was also involved in the great war.

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Thursday, July 1st 2010, 1:45am

Were they? Not in OTL they weren't.

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Thursday, July 1st 2010, 1:46am

Well Nordmark is not Nordmark in RL so, yeah I'm fairly sure Nordmark was involved. In the case of Greece its somewhat less certain as the first (Harry the Red) and second (Alt_Naval) stated Greece was not involved and yet they have a portion of Turkey that they didn't historically.

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Thursday, July 1st 2010, 1:49am

None of the nations constituting Nordmark participated in WWI, either. Nordmark definitely wasn't a Central Power.

Greece's territorial expansion is pretty much only explicable if they participated in the Great War.

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Thursday, July 1st 2010, 1:56am

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Originally posted by Brockpaine
None of the nations constituting Nordmark participated in WWI, either. Nordmark definitely wasn't a Central Power.

Greece's territorial expansion is pretty much only explicable if they participated in the Great War.

Which is all the more confusing when Roger specified that Greece didn't participate in the great war.

At any rate we're highjacking this thread....

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Thursday, July 1st 2010, 1:59am

A. Nordmark did participate in the war, losing almost 30 cruisers, and harassing Germany in general up north.

B. According to some timeline by a "Harry the Red?", Greece did participate in the war.

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Thursday, July 1st 2010, 2:09am

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Originally posted by TexanCowboy
A. Nordmark did participate in the war, losing almost 30 cruisers, and harassing Germany in general up north.

B. According to some timeline by a "Harry the Red?", Greece did participate in the war.


I talked at some length with Harry the Red and he was of the mindset that Greece did NOT participate.
He later considered it may have been unavoidable for Greece to get dragged in so, no its still not clear.

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Thursday, July 1st 2010, 2:18am

Assume they did. No way would the Ottoman Empire give up what they had to Greece willingly.

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Thursday, July 1st 2010, 2:30am

Apples and oranges, best left for a separate thread.

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Thursday, July 1st 2010, 9:51pm

Great Britain supports the removal of the Treaty of Trianion, the last remaining political shackles from the Great War.

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Friday, July 2nd 2010, 12:46am

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Originally posted by TexanCowboy
OOC: If we go by the official treaty, with only a few modifications to mold it better to WW history, (No US, various states that in WW are part of Iberia, Atlantis), we get: Atlantis, The British Empire, France, Italy, Japan, Belgium, China, Greece, Poland, Romania, Yugoslavia, Siam, and Czechoslovakia. Those are the states needed to repeal the treaty. So China does matter! :)


The Kingdom of Belgium no longer sees the merit of the Treaty of Trianon and will vote to repeal.

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Friday, July 2nd 2010, 12:55am

So we have Atlantis, The British Empire, China (agreed with Germany), Belgium, Poland, Greece, Romania (conditional), Italy and Siam+Checkoslovakia, since they're NPCs.

Nations that have not yet commented are France, Japan, and Yugoslavia.