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Saturday, May 15th 2010, 8:24pm

Russian ships for 1940

First off, an antiaircraft cruiser, built on the hull of the Chester class cruiser purchased from Latvia. When completed, she'll be assigned to the 1st Battle Division of the Baltic Fleet, to protect the two Represslya class coast defense battleships.

She is notable for the fully automatic 130mm guns she ships. She carries no torpedos.

Rynda, former British Chester class Light Cruiser laid down 1914 (Engine 1940)

Displacement:
5,214 t light; 5,545 t standard; 5,990 t normal; 6,346 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
430.00 ft / 430.00 ft x 49.75 ft x 17.50 ft (normal load)
131.06 m / 131.06 m x 15.16 m x 5.33 m

Armament:
4 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (2x2 guns), 79.37lbs / 36.00kg shells, 1940 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread
6 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns in single mounts, 79.37lbs / 36.00kg shells, 1940 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread
24 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (6x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1940 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread, 4 raised mounts
8 - 0.55" / 14.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 0.08lbs / 0.04kg shells, 1940 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 832 lbs / 377 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 400

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.46" / 88 mm 318.24 ft / 97.00 m 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
Ends: 2.52" / 64 mm 108.27 ft / 33.00 m 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
3.49 ft / 1.06 m Unarmoured ends
Main Belt covers 114 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.20" / 5 mm 1.18" / 30 mm
2nd: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.20" / 5 mm 1.18" / 30 mm
3rd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm 0.98" / 25 mm

- Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 61,706 shp / 46,033 Kw = 30.50 kts
Range 5,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 801 tons

Complement:
339 - 442

Cost:
£0.639 million / $2.555 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 105 tons, 1.8 %
Armour: 1,263 tons, 21.1 %
- Belts: 669 tons, 11.2 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 37 tons, 0.6 %
- Armour Deck: 558 tons, 9.3 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 1,650 tons, 27.5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,095 tons, 35.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 776 tons, 13.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 1.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
6,361 lbs / 2,885 Kg = 94.9 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 1.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.13
Metacentric height 2.2 ft / 0.7 m
Roll period: 14.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.53
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.20

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low quarterdeck
Block coefficient: 0.560
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.64 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 20.74 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 65 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 31.00 ft / 9.45 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 22.00 ft / 6.71 m
- Mid (50 %): 22.00 ft / 6.71 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 14.00 ft / 4.27 m (22.00 ft / 6.71 m before break)
- Stern: 14.00 ft / 4.27 m
- Average freeboard: 21.52 ft / 6.56 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 107.5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 186.3 %
Waterplane Area: 15,070 Square feet or 1,400 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 109 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 73 lbs/sq ft or 359 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.78
- Longitudinal: 2.98
- Overall: 0.90
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

10 tons each for 130mm twin auto mounts - 20 tons
5 tons each for 130mm single auto mounts - 30 tons

Surface search radar - 10 tons
Air search Radar - 10 tons
Antiaircraf fire control radar (2) - 20 tons

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "AdmKuznetsov" (May 15th 2010, 9:39pm)


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Saturday, May 15th 2010, 8:59pm

Mine carries the same amount of guns, although the use of a older model of automatics means that I can only carry 4 automatics. Also, mine retains the torpedo tubes, with less AA to show for it...all in all, I think this one is better...but mine is in service about a year and a half earlier. I'll be reequipping it with radar at some point after the naval exercizes....

EDIT: Funny how the Chester is also in the 1st Battle Squadron....

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "TexanCowboy" (May 15th 2010, 9:00pm)


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Saturday, May 15th 2010, 9:13pm

Wait, Birkenhead ended up in Russia? o.O

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Saturday, May 15th 2010, 9:16pm

mhm...sold it to him so that we could rebuild them into AA cruisers, and since I didn't have the DD space to rebuild the other one...

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Saturday, May 15th 2010, 9:24pm

Given the historical C-Class I doubt you would get close to even fitting half that armament onto the hull.

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Saturday, May 15th 2010, 9:25pm

If that ship could fit 10 5.5'' mounts, a 4'' mount, and 8 torpedo tubes, what stops it from fitting 10 guns of a lesser caliber and no torpedoes?

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Saturday, May 15th 2010, 9:34pm

Uhm... because it actually had 2 tubes and were most likely fixed in the hull?

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Saturday, May 15th 2010, 9:39pm

Crud....see what you get when you get a ignorant person like me as a lawyer? :D

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Saturday, May 15th 2010, 9:46pm

I count 15 gun mounts on her

in Shin's stats here:

http://wesworld.jk-clan.de/thread.php?po…7496&sid=#27496

Shouldn't be too hard to replace four 4" singles and 2 5.5" singles with quad 37s.

And a couple of the smokestacks will go when I replace the boilers and turbines.

This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "AdmKuznetsov" (May 15th 2010, 9:49pm)


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Saturday, May 15th 2010, 9:48pm

No doubt secret stats...

Quoted

Access to this page has been denied for one of the following reasons:

edit: now it works.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Rooijen10" (May 15th 2010, 9:49pm)


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Saturday, May 15th 2010, 9:50pm

try link again

The previous one was the search I did.

Its fixed.

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Saturday, May 15th 2010, 9:54pm

If you're going for singles on the sides, why not go for singles on all the old positions instead of going for two twins?

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Saturday, May 15th 2010, 10:05pm

Actually,

what I'd like is twin 130s on the side too.

But then she'd split in half and sink under the weight of all the guns and ammo.

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Saturday, May 15th 2010, 10:12pm

The C-Class managed 8x4" deck mounts and 4x40mm. There's a pretty massive difference between that and 10x130mm auto and 24x37mm.

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Saturday, May 15th 2010, 10:19pm

Janes 1919 sez

Birkenhead had 10 5.5"

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Saturday, May 15th 2010, 10:21pm

RE: Janes 1919 sez

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Originally posted by AdmKuznetsov
Birkenhead had 10 5.5"


Yes, but by the time you put 1930s/40s era equipment onto the ship you can't mount that sort of armament any more. Especially if you're mounting radars and such like high up on the ship.

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Saturday, May 15th 2010, 10:22pm

I don't really see the point in rebuilding a ship this old unless as a training ship.

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Saturday, May 15th 2010, 10:27pm

We Slavs never throw weapons away

Recalls footage of T-34/85s in action in Bosnia in the early 1990s

And dumping ~600 tons of coal makes a lot of things possible.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "AdmKuznetsov" (May 15th 2010, 10:29pm)


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Saturday, May 15th 2010, 10:41pm

RE: We Slavs never throw weapons away

Quoted

Originally posted by AdmKuznetsov
And dumping ~600 tons of coal makes a lot of things possible.


Not really. Removing weight from the sides of the hull doesn't compensate for adding stuff up on top.

I agree with Brock. Old, basically useless. Just beach her and put some simple mounts the army can use instead.

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Saturday, May 15th 2010, 10:51pm

I'll point out that when I first ended up with the Chesters, I discussed modernizing them (and te Hawkins), and the board's consensus was that both classes would not take extensive modifications well. And that was before I spent another 10 years or so using them as training ships during the RCN's major period of expansion.