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THE BRITISH EMPIRE: Q1/1939 REPORT

A. Industrial Output

50 Factories:
Fixed IP: 0
Flexible IP: 0
Ship Tonnage: 50

B. Transfers and Acquisitions
2,080 tons from Brazil for Vickers Export Carrier
1,500 tons from Bulgaria for Royal Oak

C. Unit Relocations
Fast Battle Squadron disbanded
HMS Inflexible and Invincible join Far Eastern Battle Squadron at Singapore on 15 January
HMS Resolution and HMS Ramilles decommissioned on January 14
HMS Hood joins 2nd Battle Squadron at Alexandria (to replace one QE in refit)
HMS Princess Royal and HMS Queen Mary join 1st Heavy Cruiser Squadron at Portsmouth on 30 March
HMS Kent, Norfolk and Suffolk on loan to RAN for 12 months from January 1
HMS Emerald and Enterprise join 5th Light Cruiser Squadron at Plymouth
1st Light Cruiser Squadron) transferred to Falkland Islands on January 10
18th Light Cruiser Squadron transferred to Singapore on January 25
2nd Light Cruiser Squadron at Portsmouth and 3rd Light Cruiser Squadron at Jamaica disbanded and all eight D Class cruisers (HMS Delhi, Despatch, Diomede, Danae, Dauntless, Dragon, Dunedin and Durban) decommissioned on January 10-20
21st Destroyer Flotilla reformed at Kuwait on 1 March
2nd Torpedo Escort Flotilla formed at Singapore on 30 March
1st Torpedo Boat Flotilla at Jamaica renamed 1st Torpedo Escort Flotilla on 5 January
Submarines H26 and H29 decommissioned on January 15

D. Navy Programme

Resources Allocated: 50,000 tons
Previous Surplus: 5,748.5 tons
Unused Scrap: 0t
Construction Requirements (See Appendix A): 53,877.5 tons
Total surplus: 4,441 tons
Scrap Available: 0t

E. Infrastructure Programme

Resources Allocated: 0 IP
Previous Surplus: 0 IP
Resources Used: 0 IP
Carry-over: 0 IP

F. Summary Order Of Battle at End of Quarter

Note: X (Y) +Z = completed/in service (under repair/refit/rebuild) + under construction.

Battleships: 14 (2) + 6
Battlecruisers: 3 + 0
Aircraft Carriers: 8 + 2
Large Monitors: 5 + 2
Class A Cruisers: 11 (3 on loan to RAN) + 0
Class B Cruisers: 74 (2) + 7
Class A Destroyers 0 + 0
Class B Destroyers: 186 + 8
Class A Submarines: 19 + 0
Class B Submarines: 61 + 9
Class C Submarines: 3 + 0
Torpedo Boats: 31 + 0
Escorts/ Sloops: 90 + 0
Large River Gunboats: 12 + 0
Small River Gunboats: 16 + 0
Minesweepers: 32 + 0
Coastal Minesweepers: 16 + 0
Motor Torpedo Boats: 154 + 0
Landing Ship Dock: 0 + 2
Landing Craft Vehicle LCV (1): 24+ 0
Landing Craft Vehicle LCV (2): 0
Landing Craft Infantry LCI: 32 + 0
Gunnery Training Ship: 0 (1) + 0
Aircraft Carrier Tenders: 0 + 1
Destroyer Tenders: 5 + 1
Submarine Tenders: 5 + 1
Repair Ships: 7 + 0
Salvage Vessels: 2 + 0
Tankers: 45 + 0
Colliers: 1 + 0
Royal Yachts: 2+ 0
Admiralty Yacht: 1 + 0
Survey Ships: 6 + 0
Troopships (Colonial Service): 3 + 0
Hospital Ships: 1 + 0
Tugs: 12 + 0
Station Tenders: 4 + 0
Antarctic Research Vessels: 2 + 0

G. Miscellaneous Works

Conversion of HMS Revenge into a gunnery training ship and life extension work. Work includes fitting of search and gunnery radio-location sets (one Type 272, two Type 284, two Type 282 and one Type 285), addition of four twin 4.5in DP mounts, removal of all casemates and plated over flush with hull sides, new light AA fit, elevation of 15in guns increased to 30 degrees, new directors and fire-control systems and new messes and education spaces for cadets. 25% refit = 6,574 tons total cost and 9 months total time. 2,191 tons this quarter for a total of 2,191 tons

Conversion of four ex-RAN V Class destroyers into AA Destroyers; 5% refit, 58 tons per ship. Total cost 232 tons. All four V Class destroyers converted in harbour, each ship taking 1.5 months to refit

HMS Glory and Gallant refitted with four twin 4in mounts, two octuple 2pdr mounts and two sextuple .661in HMG mounts removing all the current single mounts and 20mm guns. Type 271 aerial search and Type 281 Gunnery Director added and refurbishment of internal fittings for life-extension purposes. 25% refit = 1876 tons per ship taking 4 months, 1407 tons spent on each ship this quarter totalling 2814 tons.

APPENDIX A: DETAILED SHIPBUILDING REPORT

Home Stations:

Armstrong:

S-4a:
HMS Nelson Admiral Class Battleship
Laid Down 1 January 1939
Launched 1 March 1941
2,597 tons this quarter for 2,597tons
Completion due 1 June 1945

S-4b:
HMS Rodney Admiral Class Battleship
Laid Down 1 January 1939
Launched 1 March 1941
2,597 tons this quarter for 2,597tons
Completion due 1 June 1945

S-3a:

S-3b:
HMS Charybdis Scylla Class Light Cruiser
Laid Down 1 July 1938
Launched 1 February 1939
1,261 tons this quarter for 3,783 tons
Completion due 15 November 1939

HMS Resource Reliant Class Destroyer Tender
Laid Down 1 October 1937
Launched 1 June 1938
1,650 tons this quarter for 9,900 tons
Completion due 1 June 1939

S-3c:
HMS Naiad Scylla Class Light Cruiser
Laid Down 1 July 1938
Launched 1 February 1939
1,261 tons this quarter for 3,783 tons
Completion due 15 November 1939

HMS Tyne Forth Class Submarine Tender
Laid Down 1 October 1937
Launched 1 June 1938
1,650 tons this quarter for 9,900 tons
Completion due 1 June 1939

S-2a:
HMS Gleneagle Glen Class Landing Ship Dock
Laid Down 1 January 1939
Launched 15 June 1939
1,239 tons this quarter for 1,239 tons
Completion due 1 May 1940

S-2b:

S-2c:
HMS Ajax Scylla Class Light Cruiser
Laid Down 1 July 1938
Launched 1 February 1939
1,261 tons this quarter for 3,783 tons
Completion due 15 November 1939

S-2d:
HMS Marlborough General Class Coastal Defence Ship
Laid Down 1 July 1938
Launched 1 March 1939
570 tons this quarter for 1,710 tons
Completion due 15 August 1939

S-1a:
HMS Kipling K Class destroyer
Laid Down 1 October 1938
Launched 20 February 1939
504 tons this quarter for 1,108 tons
Completion due 1 September 1939

S-1b:
HMS Khartoum K Class destroyer
Laid Down 1 October 1938
Launched 20 February 1939
504 tons this quarter for 1,108 tons
Completion due 1 September 1939

S-1c:
HMS Kingston K Class destroyer
Laid Down 1 October 1938
Launched 20 February 1939
504 tons this quarter for 1,108 tons
Completion due 1 September 1939

S-1d:
HMS Kimberley K Class destroyer
Laid Down 1 October 1938
Launched 20 February 1939
504 tons this quarter for 1,108 tons
Completion due 1 September 1939

S-1e:
HMS Khandahar K Class destroyer
Laid Down 1 October 1938
Launched 20 February 1939
504 tons this quarter for 1,108 tons
Completion due 1 September 1939

S-0a:

S-0b:

S-0c:

S-0d:

S-0e:

S-0f:

Beardmore:

S-4a:
HMS Hercules Ocean Class Aircraft Carrier
Laid Down 1 July 1938
Launched 1 September 1939
1,812 tons this quarter for 5,436 tons
Completion due 1 May 1940

HMS Lion Lion Class battleship
Laid Down 1 October 1936
Launched 1 April 1938
2,438 tons this quarter for 24,380 tons
Completion due 1 September 1940

S-4b
HMS Howe Admiral Class Battleship
Laid Down 1 January 1939
Launched 1 March 1941
2,597 tons this quarter for 2,597tons
Completion due 1 June 1945

HMS Unicorn Unicorn Class Tender
Laid Down 1 January 1938
Launched 1 November 1938
1,965 tons this quarter for 9,825 tons
Completion due 1 March 1940

HMS Princess Royal Princess Royal Class Heavy Cruiser
Laid Down 1 January 1937
Launched 1 October 1937
3 tons this quarter for 15,723 tons
Completed 15 January 1939

S-3a:
HMS Trinidad Colony Class Light Cruiser
Laid Down 1 January 1938
Launched 1 July 1938
1,460 tons this quarter for 5,840 tons
Completion due 1 June 1939

S-3b:
HMS Burma Colony Class Light Cruiser
Laid Down 1 January 1938
Launched 1 July 1938
1,460 tons this quarter for 5,840 tons
Completion due 1 June 1939

S-2a:
HMS Arethusa Scylla Class Light Cruiser
Laid Down 1 July 1938
Launched 1 February 1939
1,261 tons this quarter for 3,783 tons
Completion due 15 November 1939

S-2b:
HMS Aurora Scylla Class Light Cruiser
Laid Down 1 July 1938
Launched: 1 February 1939
1,261 tons this quarter for 3,783 tons
Completion due 15 November 1939

S-2c:
HMS Glenearn Glen Class Landing Ship Dock
Laid Down 1 January 1939
Launched 15 June 1939
1,239 tons this quarter for 1,239 tons
Completion due 1 May 1940

S-2d:

S-1a:
HMS Kempenfelt K Class destroyer
Laid Down 1 October 1938
Launched 20 February 1939
504 tons this quarter for 1,108 tons
Completion due 1 September 1939

S-1b:
HMS Keats K Class destroyer
Laid Down 1 October 1938
Launched 20 February 1939
504 tons this quarter for 1,108 tons
Completion due 1 September 1939


S-0a:

S-0b:

S-0c:

S-0d:

S-0e:

S-0f:

Chatham:

S-5a:

S-4a: HMS Anson Admiral Class Battleship
Laid Down 1 January 1939
Launched 1 March 1941
2,597 tons this quarter for 2,597tons
Completion due 1 June 1945

HMS Queen Mary Princess Royal Class Heavy Cruiser
Laid Down 1 January 1937
Launched: 1 October 1937
3 tons this quarter for 15,723 tons
Completed 15 January 1939

S-4b:
Brazil Vickers Export Aircraft Carrier
Laid Down 1 April 1938
Launched 1 March 1939
1,891 tons this quarter for 7,564 tons
Completion due 1 April 1940

Pembroke:

S-5a: HMS Beatty Admiral Class Battleship
Laid Down 1 January 1939
Launched 1 March 1941
2,597 tons this quarter for 2,597tons
Completion due 1 June 1945

S-5b:

Portsmouth:

S-4a:
HMS Triumph Ocean Class Aircraft Carrier
Laid Down 1 July 1938
Launched: 1 September 1939
1,812 tons this quarter for 5,436 tons
Completion due 1 May 1940

S-0a:
HMS U-11 U Class submarine
Laid Down 1 October 1938
199.5 tons this quarter for 399 tons
Completion due 1 August 1939

S-0b:
HMS U-12 U Class submarine
Laid Down 1 October 1938
199.5 tons this quarter for 399 tons
Completion due 1 August 1939

S-0c:
HMS U-13 U Class submarine
Laid Down 1 October 1938
199.5 tons this quarter for 399 tons
Completion due 1 August 1939

S-0d:
HMS U-14 U Class submarine
Laid Down 1 October 1938
199.5 tons this quarter for 399 tons
Completion due 1 August 1939

Royal Dockyard Malta:

S-1a:
HMS Keith K Class destroyer
Laid Down 1 October 1938
Launched 20 February 1939
504 tons this quarter for 1,108 tons
Completion due 1 September 1939


Small Craft:

Vosper Thornycroft

British Power Boats

Fairmile

Vickers (Barrow-in-Furness)
X1-X3 target submarines 30 tons surfaced, 33.6 tons submerged, 53.1x5.9x5.9ft, one 42hp Gardner diesel and one 30hp Keith Blackman electric motor, 6kts surfaced, 5.5kts submerged, 85nm at 2kts, four crew.


APPENDIX B: DETAILED DRYDOCK REPORT
Portsmouth
3 Type 4 Drydocks
D-4a: HMS Warspite 50% partial reconstruction, 2,269 tons this quarter for 13,615.5 tons total. Work completion due 15 September 1939

3 Type 2 Drydocks
4 Type 1 Drydocks

D-1a:
HMS Lark Colonial Class torpedo boat
Laid Down 1 April 1938
Launched 1 August 1938
270 tons this quarter for 675 tons
Completed 1 February 1939

D-1b:
HMS Black Swan Colonial Class torpedo boat
Laid Down 1 April 1938
Launched 1 August 1938
270 tons this quarter for 675 tons
Completed 1 February 1939

D-1c:
HMS Bittern Colonial Class torpedo boat
Laid Down 1 April 1938
Launched 1 August 1938
270 tons this quarter for 675 tons
Completed 1 February 1939

D-1d:
HMS Stork Colonial Class torpedo boat
Laid Down 1 April 1938
Launched 1 August 1938
270 tons this quarter for 675 tons
Completed 1 February 1939

6 Type 0 Drydocks

D-0a:
S-2 S Class Submarine
Laid Down 1 January 1939
Launched 1 April 1939
187 tons this quarter for 187 tons
Completion due 15 September 1939

D-0b:
S-3 S Class Submarine
Laid Down 1 January 1939
Launched 1 April 1939
187 tons this quarter for 187 tons
Completion due 15 September 1939

D-0c:
S-4 S Class Submarine
Laid Down 1 January 1939
Launched 1 April 1939
187 tons this quarter for 187 tons
Completion due 15 September 1939

D-0d:
S-5 S Class Submarine
Laid Down 1 January 1939
Launched 1 April 1939
187 tons this quarter for 187 tons
Completion due 15 September 1939

Portland
1 Type 1 Drydock
Dover
1 Type 1 Drydock
Pembroke
1 Type 1 Drydock
Haulbowline (Now under Irish control)
1 Type 2 Drydock
1 Type 1 Drydock
Rosyth - Port Edgar
1 Type 4 Drydock
1 Type 3 Drydock
1 Type 2 Drydock
2 Type 1 Drydocks
D-1a:
HMS Wellington General Class Coastal Defence Ship
Laid Down 1 July 1938
Launched 1 March 1939
570 tons this quarter for 1,710 tons
Completion due 15 August 1939

3 Type 0 Drydocks
Chatham
1 Type 3 Drydock: HMS Valiant 50% partial reconstruction, 2,269.5 tons this quarter for 13,615.5 tons total. Work completion due 15 July 1940
1 Type 2 Drydock

3 Type 1 Drydocks
D-1a:
HMS Hart Colonial Class torpedo boat
Laid Down 1 April 1938
Launched 1 August 1938
270 tons this quarter for 675 tons
Completed 1 February 1939

D-1b:
HMS Peacock Colonial Class torpedo boat
Laid Down 1 April 1938
Launched 1 August 1938
270 tons this quarter for 675 tons
Completed 1 February 1939

2 Type 0 Drydocks

Sheerness
2 Type 1 Drydocks
4 Type 0 Drydocks

D-0a:
HMS U-15 U Class submarine
Laid Down 1 October 1938
199.5 tons this quarter for 399 tons
Completion due 1 August 1939

Invergordon
1 Type 3 Drydock
1 Type 2 Drydock
Gibraltar
1 Type 4 Drydock
1 Type 2 Drydock
1 Type 1 Drydock
1 Type 0 Drydock
Port Said
1 Type 1 Drydock
Alexandria
1 Type 4 Drydock
1 Type 1 Drydock
Malta
1 Type 4 Drydock
1 Type 2 Drydock
2 Type 1 Drydocks

Singapore
1 Type 4 Drydock
1 Type 2 Drydock
2 Type 1 Drydocks
D-1a:
HMS Pheasant Colonial Class torpedo boat
Laid Down 1 April 1938
Launched 1 August 1938
270 tons this quarter for 675 tons
Completed 1 February 1939

D-1b:
HMS Wren Colonial Class torpedo boat
Laid Down 1 April 1938
Launched 1 August 1938
270 tons this quarter for 675 tons
Completed 1 February 1939

2 Type 0 Drydocks
Hong Kong
1 Type 3 Drydock
1 Type 2 Drydock
2 Type 1 Drydocks

HOME FLEET (HQ Scapa Flow)
Scapa Flow
1st Battle Squadron (Saint Vincent, Trafalgar, Agincourt, Nile)
1st Carrier Squadron (Ark Royal, Majestic)
6th Light Cruiser Squadron (Caledon, Calypso, Caradoc, Curacoa)
1st Destroyer Flotilla (Unbeaten, Undaunted, United, Unruffled, Unshaken, Untiring, Xenon, Zebra)
2nd Destroyer Flotilla (Vansittart, Venomous, Verity, Veteran, Vimy, Volunteer, Wanderer, Whitehall)
23rd Destroyer Flotilla (Garland, Greyhound, Griffin, Grenade, Grafton, Gipsy, Guernsey, Guinevere)

Clyde
20th Light Cruiser Squadron (Lancaster, Leonidas, Latona, Leviathan, Leander, Largs)
19th Light Cruiser Squadron (Scylla, Dido, Euryalus, Phoebe, Sirius)
8th Destroyer Flotilla (Upholder, Uproar, Urge, Ursula, Utmost, Zenith, Zephyr, Zest)
8th Submarine Flotilla (P26-30)

Cromarty
8th Sloop Flotilla (E81-90) Total 10
4th Submarine Flotilla (R1-12) Total 12
7th Submarine Flotilla (O1-10) Total 10
1st Coastal Minesweeper Flotilla (8 195 Ton Class)

Portsmouth
3rd Battle Squadron (Victorious, King George V, Venerable, Vanguard, Vigilant)
4th Carrier Squadron (Ocean, Theseus)
12th Light Cruiser Squadron (Chichester, Llandaff, Salisbury, Lincoln)
12th Destroyer Flotilla (Ulster, Ulysses, Unity, Urania, Urchin, Yeoman, Yorker, Yukon)
2nd Submarine Flotilla (Salmon, Sealion, Spearfish, Seawolf, Snapper)
Gunnery Establishment Portland (Revenge)

THE NORE COMMAND
Harwich
Coastal Defence Squadron (General Crawford, General Pakenham, General Picton, Gorgon, Sir John Moore)
22nd Destroyer Flotilla (Fury, Fame, Firedrake, Foresight, Faulknor, Fortune, Forester, Foxhound)
1st Minesweeper Flotilla (8 Poole Class minesweepers)
9th Torpedo Boat Flotilla (8 BPB-60-1 Class)
12th Torpedo Boat Flotilla (8 BPB-60-2 Class)
Note: MTBs in fortified pens

Great Yarmouth
2nd Sloop Flotilla (E11-20) Total 10
9th Submarine Flotilla (P20-25)
1st Landing Craft Flotilla (8 LCI 1)
2nd Landing Craft Flotilla (8 LCV 1)

CHANNEL COMMAND
Dover
9th Destroyer Flotilla (Vimiera, Violent, Vivacious, Vivien, Vortigern, Wakeful, Walker, Walpole)
9th Sloop Flotilla (E91-100) Total 10
2nd Coastal Minesweeper Flotilla (8 195 Ton Class)
4th Torpedo Boat Flotilla (8 BPB-60-1 Class)
5th Torpedo Boat Flotilla (8 BPB-60-1 Class)
Note: MTBs in fortified pens

WESTERN APPROACHES COMMAND
Plymouth
1st Heavy Cruiser Squadron (Howe, Princess Royal, Princess Mary [Kent, Norfolk, Suffolk on loan to RAN during 1939])
5th Light Cruiser Squadron (Cardiff, Ceres, Coventry, Emerald, Enterprise)
22nd Light Cruiser Squadron (Jamaica, Bermuda, Gambia, Nigeria, Mauritius)
25th Destroyer Flotilla (Jackal, Javelin, Jersey, Jaguar, Janus, Jerivs, Jutland, Jubilee)
1st Sloop Flotilla (E1-10) Total 10
4th Sloop Flotilla (E41-50) Total 10
1st Submarine Flotilla (Shark, Sturgeon, Swordfish, Seahorse, Starfish)

MEDITERRANEAN FLEET
Alexandria
2nd Battle Squadron (Queen Elizabeth, Barham, Valiant, Malaya, Warspite, Hood)
2nd Carrier Squadron (Swiftsure, Bulwark)
3rd Heavy Cruiser Squadron (Anson, Benbow, Exmouth, Duncan)
9th Light Cruiser Squadron (Kenya, Kelly, Kingfisher, Kelvin, Khedive, Kashmir)
23rd Light Cruiser Squadron (Newfoundland, Uganda, Fiji)
5th Destroyer Flotilla (Walrus, Warwick, Watchman, Westcott, Whitley, Wolfhound, Zambezi)
3rd Destroyer Flotilla (Tomahawk, Torch, Tumult, Whitshed, Wild Swan, Witherington, Wivern)
5th Sloop Flotilla (E51-60) Total 10
6th Submarine Flotilla (H21, 22, 24, 25, 35-37, 51) Total 8 [to receive 5 U Class Q3/39]
11th Submarine Flotilla (U01-05)
6th Torpedo Boat Flotilla (8 BPB-60-1 Class)
14th Torpedo Boat Flotilla (8 BPB-60-3 Class)
Note: MTBs in fortified pens

Port Said
1st Gunboat Squadron (6 Insect Class)
2nd Minesweeper Flotilla (8 Poole Class minesweepers)
8th Torpedo Boat Flotilla (8 Vosper 75 Foot Class)
19th Torpedo Boat Flotilla (8 BPB-60-3 Class) [both actually based at Res Muhammed at southern end of Suez Canal in fortified pens]
3rd Landing Craft Flotilla (8 LCV 1)
6th Landing Craft Flotilla (8 LCV 1)
7th Landing Craft Flotilla (8 LCI 1)

Gibraltar
7th Light Cruiser Squadron (Imperial, Infidel, Icarus, Intrepid, Integrity, Intruder)
6th Destroyer Flotilla (Westminster, Whirlwind, Winchelsea, Winchester, Windsor, Wolverine, Wessex, Xanadu)
3rd Sloop Flotilla (E21-30) Total 10

Malta
21st Light Cruiser Squadron (Jubilant, Jackdaw, Jupiter, Jason, Joyful, Juno)
14th Destroyer Flotilla (Diana, Defender, Duchess, Decoy, Delight, Duncan, Diamond, Darling)
16th Destroyer Flotilla (Zodiac, Zorro, Zeus, Zulu, Zap, Zoe, Yonder, Xerxes)
3rd Submarine Flotilla (L18-26 L53) Total 9
11th Submarine Flotilla (P35-40)
17th Torpedo Boat Flotilla (8 BPB-60-3 Class)
18th Torpedo Boat Flotilla (8 BPB-60-3 Class)

Socotra
10th Torpedo Boat Flotilla (8 BPB-60-2 Class)
11th Torpedo Boat Flotilla (8 BPB-60-2 Class)
16th Torpedo Boat Flotilla (8 BPB-60-3 Class)
Note: MTBs in fortified pens

CHINA STATION AND FAR EASTERN FLEET
Hong Kong
15th Light Cruiser Squadron (Drake, Cochrane, Pellew, Howard)
4th Destroyer Flotilla (Archer, Acasta, Achates, Acheron, Arrow, Ardent, Active, Antelope)
6th Sloop Flotilla (E61-70) Total 10
3rd Gunboat Squadron (6 Fly Class)

Singapore
Far Eastern Battle Squadron (Inflexible, Invincible)
3rd Carrier Squadron (Warrior, Eagle)
2nd Heavy Cruiser Squadron (Sussex, London, Devonshire, Cornwall)
17th Light Cruiser Squadron (Gallant, Gibraltar, Gladiator, Glory, Goliath, Griffin)
18th Light Cruiser Squadron (Hannibal, Hercules, Hunter, Hotspur, Hero, Hermione)
24th Light Cruiser Squadron (Cleopatra, Argonaut, Bellona, Diadem, Bonaventure)
25th Light Cruiser Squadron (Canterbury, Winchester, Norwich, Bury St. Edmunds)
1st Light Cruiser Squadron (Fox, Fearless, Formidable)
10th Destroyer Flotilla (Verdun, Versatile, Vesper, Vidette, Voyager, Wallace, Waterhen, Vectis)
11th Destroyer Flotilla (Wrestler, Ulster, Umpire, Undine, Urchin, Ursa, Ursula, Xena)
15th Destroyer Flotilla (Echo, Esk, Escapade, Electra, Encounter, Express, Eclipse, Escort)
25th Destroyer Flotilla (Havoc, Hasty, Hereward, Hostile, Hyperion, Hardy, Hogue, Halberd)
2nd Torpedo Escort Flotilla (Lark, Black Swan, Bittern, Stork, Hart, Peacock, Pheasant, Wren)
14th Sloop Flotilla (E101-110) Total 10
10th Submarine Flotilla (P30-34)
12th Submarine Flotilla (U06-10)
4th Gunboat Squadron (6 Fly Class)
3rd Minesweeper Flotilla (8 Poole Class)
1st Torpedo Boat Flotilla (8 BPB-60-1 Class)
2nd Torpedo Boat Flotilla (8 BPB-60-1 Class)
3rd Torpedo Boat Flotilla (8 BPB-60-1 Class)
4th Torpedo Boat Flotilla (8 BPB-60-1 Class)
15th Torpedo Boat Flotilla (8 BPB-60-3 Class)
Note: these MTB units are based in fortified MTB pens at Moulmein (Burma), Port Weld, Port Dickson, Malacca, Muar, Batu Pahat, Mersing, Pekan, Kuantan, Kuala Dungun, Kuala Trengganu and Kota Bharu (all Malaya)
4th Landing Craft Flotilla (8 LCI 1)
5th Landing Craft Flotilla (8 LCV 1)

Pitcairn Islands
Anti Piracy Patrol (a detachment of destroyers from 11th and 15th Destroyer Flotillas)

EASTERN AFRICA AND PERSIAN GULF STATION
Mombassa
24th Destroyer Flotilla (Seraph, Serapis, Serene, Simoom, Speedy, Sepoy, Tactician, Tara)
2nd Gunboat Squadron (6 Insect Class)
Kenya Flotilla (Ndovu, Alhathari)

Kuwait
Persian Gulf Squadron (Seraph, Serapis and Serene and two Insect Class)
21st Destroyer Flotilla (Vampire, Vendetta, Voyager, Waterhen)
13th Torpedo Boat Flotilla (8 Vosper 75 Foot Class)
9th Landing Craft Flotilla (8 LCV 1)


AMERICAS AND WEST INDIES STATION
Bermuda
13th Destroyer Flotilla (Brilliant, Blanche, Beagle, Boadicea, Boreas, Brazen, Basilisk, Bulldog)
7th Sloop Flotilla (E71-80) Total 10

Jamaica
20th Destroyer Flotilla (Teazer, Tirade, Tower, Trenchant, Trinidad, Tristram, Trojan, Truant)
1st Torpedo Escort Flotilla (D1-15)

SOUTH ATLANTIC STATION
Falklands Islands
1st Light Cruiser Squadron (Fox, Fearless, Formidable)
18th Destroyer Flotilla (Stirling, Stonehenge, Senator, Tenedos, Thanet, Thracian, Turbulent, Trusty)

Lagos
5th Gunboat Squadron (4 Fly Class)

Quoted

HMS Nelson Admiral Class Battleship
Laid Down 1 January 1939
Launched 1 March 1941
2,597 tons this quarter for 2,597tons
Completion due 1 June 1945

We gonna have to wait 'till '45 to see the stats?

Means....somewhere between 63,000 and 66,000 tons. Probebly a clone of those German ships...the 9x18'' ones.

but my armament calculation agrees with yours.

They won't impact Russian BB designs, since the Soyuz Nerushimy class completes in a couple of quarters, and the Slavas will launch at the end of '39, but I suppose keeping the exact details from other prying eyes is a reasonable thing to do.

But Q2/45 isn't much help against Yamatos...

Hmm...I was going by the calculation: Ship Tonnage/1000+9. Now, if Build Time is 6 years, or 72 month's, 72-9 is 63,000. But who knows, only Hood knows....

Some smart figuring going on, I knew that would happen as soon as I posted the reports. Nothing is secret when you know how much something costs per month to build. Even so the ballpark figures aren't quite correct.

The armament could either be the existing 16.5in gun (currently used in coastal defences), a totally new 18in gun or even a totally new 19in gun. Exact numbers etc I let you guys decide. I have four Admiral Class SS reports I could post and all are roughly the same displacement but differ in armour and armament. The real specs will be posted soon. Of course I could post a picture now but that might scare you all.

Q2/45 won't match the Japanese battleships but will put the RN on par with the Russian, German and US fleets (all of which are allies). It will however surpass anything laid down by other nations now or for the next few years. Factor in 2-4 big carriers to complete about the same time and its clear the RN in 1945 is going to be a very powerful navy.

Could you post them? I'm sure we can help you decide if you need to....

Naw, I like the secrets. It's the way countries would actually act towards their (non-export) designs.

It's why I've started posting "public specifications" for ships that I build. Sometimes they're pretty much correct except for a few tiny exaggerations; sometimes the public specs are a bit ludicrous.

Quoted

Originally posted by Brockpaine
Sometimes they're pretty much correct except for a few tiny exaggerations; sometimes the public specs are a bit ludicrous.

Jane's Frightening Slips? Like the WWI Lion class battlecruisers making 30knts with 12" armour... Usually even worse with future ships.

Even today, intelligence gathering in terms of technical specs is rather limited. In the 1930s, very very limited. Usually just gun calibre, rough size, and best guesses as to armour.

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Originally posted by Red Admiral

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Originally posted by Brockpaine
Sometimes they're pretty much correct except for a few tiny exaggerations; sometimes the public specs are a bit ludicrous.

Jane's Frightening Slips? Like the WWI Lion class battlecruisers making 30knts with 12" armour... Usually even worse with future ships.

Even today, intelligence gathering in terms of technical specs is rather limited. In the 1930s, very very limited. Usually just gun calibre, rough size, and best guesses as to armour.

Yup, agreed. Using Springsharp we can arrive at some close guesses... sometimes. In real life it's harder to do that. I try to keep that in mind when I'm looking at the ships of neighboring powers and trying to determine the proper response.

Let's not forget that at various times in WWII, the US thought the Japanese had a third Zuikaku-class carrier. And at the Battle of Midway, the Japanese believed the USN had shown up with two XCVs converted from liners.

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Q2/45 won't match the Japanese battleships but will put the RN on par with the Russian, German and US fleets (all of which are allies). It will however surpass anything laid down by other nations now or for the next few years. Factor in 2-4 big carriers to complete about the same time and its clear the RN in 1945 is going to be a very powerful navy.

However 6 years 5 months is a long time to wait for a battleship. This goes for the Sachsens and Yamatos too. Soyuz Nerushimy and her sisters were laid down at about the same time as the Sachsens and they complete this year. Montanas are also pretty reasonable in terms of building time. Having the biggest BB afloat is great for prestige, but Russians like the power of the N2 Rule, and don't like to wait that long for additional firepower.

Agreed, which is why my Neptunes didn't turn out too large. I figured a ship in Iowa's ball park is more than enough and with our build rules this becomes all too aparent.

Yeah but I have 18 capital ships already, all 15in calibre and ten of them brand-new. Hardly lacking in gunpower or modernity. The rebuilds will have the latest radio-direction finding gunnery equipment and the G3's once refitted will be even more potent than they are now. I didn't start out as a prestige super-battleship but when I began adding armour, speed and range things grew and grew. Actually AdmK's and TexanCowboy's displacement estimates are on the high side, the normal tonnage is under 63,000 tons.

Since I have 4 reports I could post any one of them to confuse you all. I know which one I'm building. At the moment I'll stick to the provisional specs posted elsewhere and the picture placeholding the Admirals in the encylopedia section.

Discussing type and building time of a BB doesn´t make any sense to me except you´r up for a war. So, are you?

Otherwise one simpyl does not need to care what the RN is building. :o/

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Originally posted by HoOmAn
Discussing type and building time of a BB doesn´t make any sense to me except you´r up for a war. So, are you?

Really? Seems kinda fool hardy not to IMO.

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Originally posted by HoOmAnOtherwise one simpyl does not need to care what the RN is building. :o/

Well when you look at the industry the British possess in Wesworld you might as well resign yourself to the fact that you'll never out build them, caring is simply irrelivent!

There isn't much variety in the new battleships being built. Pretty much all of them have the same layout, armament, armour and speed between 28 and 30knts. Only the Yamatos are significantly larger and heavier armoured. Italy is alone in sticking with 381mm guns, but with more of them instead - why mount 16" or 18" guns when you can penetrate just about anything from 30,000yds?

It doesn't particularly matter what other countries are building, the Littorios can still badly hurt anything afloat.

Well, the way I see it, there is a difference between penetrating and obliterating.

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Originally posted by Rooijen10
Well, the way I see it, there is a difference between penetrating and obliterating.

Shell goes bang and destroys the compartment it lands in. Not that much difference in effects between the 15" shell and the 18" shell.

Unless that compartment happens to be your charge magazine...

OTL look at Hood, Bismarck didn't have to mess around hammering away for the hours it took KGV and Rodney to sink it before it obliterated Hood with one lucky, but penetrating shot.
The longer you battle the more chance the other side gets in that lucky shot that wrecks a turret, CT, generators, boilers etc etc. Better to get it over quickly and have the better gun and armour to accomplish your aims. Better still to have five ships.

Also I'm still biased against qaud turrets, especially for 15in guns. Sounds like asking for trouble like PoW and KGV. When you need them most they could fail. Rather go for the tried and tested triple myself.