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Originally posted by perdedor99

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Originally posted by Brockpaine
Here's the list of the Delphinos-class - seventeen units since 1932. Nemesis-class appears to be an improvement on the Hermes, which is in turn an improvement of a WWI British R-class.

- Delphinos (S30) - laid down Q2/32.
- Aphrodite (S31) - laid down Q4/32.
- Astra (S32) - laid down Q3/33.
- Boreas (S33) - laid down Q3/33.
- Diktynna (S34) laid down Q2/34.
- Hephaistos (S35) laid down Q2/34.
- Nike (S36) laid down Q3/34.
- Persephone (S37) laid down Q3/34.
- Phobos (S3 laid down Q3/34.
- Porphyrion (S39) laid down Q3/34.
- Phorcys (S40) laid down Q2/35.
- Oreithyia (S41) laid down Q2/35.
- Morpheus (S42) laid down Q2/35.
- Melinoe (S43) laid down Q3/35.
- Lampetia (S44) laid down Q4/35.
- Kratos (S45) laid down Q4/35.
- Kalligeneia (S46) laid down Q4/35.

Not finding any Springsharps for the other boats, I'm going to attempt to make some Springsharps for R, the Hermes, and the 21" Nemesis over lunch. (Edit: Brock headdesks after realizing the Hermes-class is ex-RN R-boats.)

that makes it easier. There is still a break between the S26 and S30. 4 R's and twenty-two Nemesis still
is three hulls short if we go by the numbers of the Delphinos. (Hulls S27 to S29)

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S-1 Delfin Class Submarine -> (0 + 2 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £3000
S-4 Hermês Class Submarine -> (0 + 4 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £28980
S-8 Nemesis Class Submarine -> (16 + 0 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £372000

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[SIZE=3]Hermês-class (ex-R-class), British/Greek Submarine laid down 1917[/SIZE]

Displacement:
466 t light; 476 t standard; 500 t normal; 519 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
163.00 ft / 163.00 ft x 16.00 ft x 11.50 ft (normal load)
49.68 m / 49.68 m x 4.88 m x 3.51 m
6 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion generators plus batteries,
Electric motors, 1 shaft, 849 shp / 633 Kw = 14.00 kts
Range 3,500nm at 8.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 43 tons

Complement:
52 - 68

Cost:
£0.038 million / $0.150 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 31 tons, 6.2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 335 tons, 67.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 34 tons, 6.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 20.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
40 lbs / 18 Kg = 0.4 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.02
Metacentric height 0.3 ft / 0.1 m
Roll period: 11.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 0 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 0.00

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.583
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.19 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 12.77 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Mid (50 %): 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Stern: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Average freeboard: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 251.9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 0.0 %
Waterplane Area: 1,832 Square feet or 170 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 308 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 115 lbs/sq ft or 560 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 4.99
- Longitudinal: 2.83
- Overall: 3.27
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is extremely poor
Room for accommodation and workspaces is extremely poor
Ship has quick, lively roll, not a steady gun platform
Caution: Lacks seaworthiness - very limited seakeeping ability

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[SIZE=3]Nemesis-class (Improved Hermes), Greek Submarine laid down 1922[/SIZE]

Displacement:
466 t light; 476 t standard; 500 t normal; 519 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
163.00 ft / 163.00 ft x 16.00 ft x 11.50 ft (normal load)
49.68 m / 49.68 m x 4.88 m x 3.51 m
4 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion generators plus batteries,
Electric motors, 1 shaft, 1,110 shp / 828 Kw = 15.00 kts
Range 4,000nm at 8.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 43 tons

Complement:
52 - 68

Cost:
£0.059 million / $0.235 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 38 tons, 7.5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 328 tons, 65.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 34 tons, 6.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 20.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
141 lbs / 64 Kg = 1.3 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.01
Metacentric height 0.3 ft / 0.1 m
Roll period: 11.7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 0 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 0.00

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.583
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.19 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 12.77 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Mid (50 %): 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Stern: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Average freeboard: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 133.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 0.0 %
Waterplane Area: 1,831 Square feet or 170 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 285 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 112 lbs/sq ft or 549 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 4.86
- Longitudinal: 2.78
- Overall: 3.19
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is extremely poor
Ship has quick, lively roll, not a steady gun platform
Caution: Lacks seaworthiness - very limited seakeeping ability

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Originally posted by perdedor99
I don't mind doing the posting as soon as SIM's are agreed upon but I think you're right. We discussed division of tasks but never directly delegate those tasks. So we are working like the real Greek government. Next we have to destroy their economy completely and we will be close to RL.

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Originally posted by Brockpaine

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Originally posted by perdedor99
I don't mind doing the posting as soon as SIM's are agreed upon but I think you're right. We discussed division of tasks but never directly delegate those tasks. So we are working like the real Greek government. Next we have to destroy their economy completely and we will be close to RL.

I vote we give five factories to Turkey, five factories to Britain, and five factories to... uh. Liechtenstein? YES, Liechtenstein! FLAWLESS VICTORY!

So let's figure out what all we need to get posted:
- Submarine sims
- Army
- Air Force
- 1938 stuff

Anything else?

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Originally posted by Vukovlad
May I suggest adding trooptransports and lighters to that list (that are listed by numbers but with no sims)