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Panzergrenadiers Squad:
- 1 Corporal: SMG
- 8 privates: 1 LMG, 1 SMG, 6 rifles
- 1 Halftrack Infantry Carrier
- Total: 9 men, 2 SMGs, 1 LMG, 6 rifles
Panzergrenadiers Platoon:
- 4 panzergrenadier squads: 9 men, 1 halftrack
- 1 command squad: 1 lieutenant (SMG), 1 sergeant (carbine), 2 runners (2 carbines), 2 Pierce-Arrow Geeps and 2 motorcycles
- Total: 40 men, 4 LMGs, 9 SMGs, 4 halftracks, 2 Geeps, 2 motorcycles
Panzergrenadiers Company:
- 3 panzergrenadiers platoons: 40 men, 4 halftracks
- 1 command squad: 1 company CO, 1 company XO, 1 company first sergeant, 4 messengers (4 carbines, 4 motorcycles), machine-gun squad (8 men, 3 medium machine guns)
- Total: 135 men, 17 halftracks
Panzergrenadiers Battalion:
- 3 panzergrenadiers companies: 135 men, 17 halftracks
- 1 weapons company: 187 men, 16 halftracks, 8 armoured ammo carriers, 2 armoured artillery tractors
- 1 command platoon: 23 men, 3 armoured command vehicles
- Total: 615 men, 3 armoured command vehicles, 67 halftracks, 8 armoured ammo carriers, 2 armoured artillery tractors
Panzergrenadiers Regiment:
- 1 Regimental HQ: 90 men
- 3 panzergrenadiers battalions: 615 men, 3 armoured command vehicles, 67 halftracks, 8 armoured ammo carriers, 2 armoured artillery tractors
- 1 assault gun squadron: 1 armoured command vehicle, 12 assault guns, 3 motorcycles, 1 GPV, 2 repair trucks, 4 supplies and ammo trucks, 119 men
- 1 Supplies Company: 169 men (includes Supplies Platoon, Signal Platoon, Engineer Platoon, and Field Kitchen)
- 1 AA company: 135 men, 8x20mm AA, 4x40mm AA guns, 12 armoured artillery tractors
- 1 self-propelled artillery battalion: 611 men, 24 self-propelled guns
- 1 Field Hospital: 135 men, 8 armoured field ambulances
- 1 Regimental Column
- Total: 3,104 men, 10 armoured command vehicles, 12 assault guns, 24 self-propelled howitzers, 201 halftracks, 24 armoured ammo carriers, 19 armoured artillery tractors, 8 field ambulances, 12 AA guns
Panzergrenadier Division:
- 1 Division HQ: 120 men
- 1 Armoured Regiment: 1,707 men, 24 ACVs, 108 tanks
- 2 Panzergrenadiers Regiment: 3,104 men, 201 halftracks
- 2 Mobile Artillery Battalions: 611 men, 24 self-propelled guns
- 1 AAMG Platoon: 66 men, 12 AAMGs
- 1 AA Gun Platoon: 66 men, 3 76.2mm AA guns
- 1 Supplies Company: 169 men
- 2 Engineer Companies: 247 men each
- 2 Signal Companies: 247 men each
- 2 Field Hospitals: 150 men each
- Total: 10,846 men
Battalion Weapons Company:
- 1 machinegun platoon: 12xHMGs, 66 men, 8 halftracks
- 1 mortar platoon: 57 men, 4x120mm mortars, 4 halftracks, 4 ammo halftracks
- 1 AT platoon: 33 men, 3x37mm AT guns, 3x20mm AT rifles (Solothurn S-18/1000), 4 halftracks.
- 1 Mountain Gun section: 31 men, 2x76.2mm mountain howitzers, 2 artillery mover halftracks, 4 armoured ammo carriers
- Total: 187 men, 16 halftracks, 8 armoured ammo carriers, 2 armoured artillery tractors
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Armoured Troop:
- 4 tanks: 5 crew each
- Total: 20 men, 4 tanks
Armoured Squadron:
- 3 Tank troops: 4 tanks each, 20 men
- 1 Command Squad: 9 men, 1 armoured command vehicle, 3 motorcycles, 1 GPV
- 1 Supplies Platoon: 4 trucks, 32 men
- 1 Engineer Squad: 9 men
- 1 Repairmen Squad: 9 men each, 2 Repair trucks each
- Total: 1 armoured command vehicle, 12 regular tanks, 3 motorcycles, 1 GPV, 2 repair trucks, 4 supplies and ammo trucks, 119 men
Armoured Battalion:
- 3 armoured squadrons: 1 armoured command vehicle, 12 regular tanks, 3 motorcycles, 1 GPV, 2 repair trucks, 4 supplies and ammo trucks, 119 men
- 1 tank destroyer squadron: 1 armoured command vehicle, 12 tank destroyers, 3 motorcycles, 1 GPV, 2 repair trucks, 4 supplies and ammo trucks, 119 men
- 1 battalion HQ: 4 command vehicles, 1 CO, 1 XO, 1 NCO, 20 men
- Total: 499 men, 8 ACVs, 36 tanks, 12 motorcycles, 4 GPVs, 12 tank destroyers, 24 trucks
Armoured Regiment:
- 1 Regimental HQ: 90 men (Command Office and Supplies Office)
- 3 armoured battalions: 499 men, 8 ACVs, 36 tanks, 12 motorcycles, 4 GPVs, 12 tank destroyers, 24 trucks
- 1 Supplies Company: 120 men (includes Supplies Platoon, Signal Platoon, Engineer Platoon, and Field Kitchen)
- 1 Regimental Column
- Total: 1,707 men, 24 ACVs, 108 tanks, 36 motorcycles, 12 GPVs, 36 tank destroyers, 72+ trucks
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Originally posted by Hrolf Hakonson
Makes sense to post initial units here.
1 - Not sure about the Geeps at platoon level, they'd be soft targets to take out quickly.
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Originally posted by Hrolf Hakonson
2 - What's the difference, in the Chilean army, between an MMG and an HMG? The number of HMGs at battalion seems excessive, and 66 men is a VERY big platoon.
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Originally posted by Hrolf Hakonson
3 - There's a LOT of self-propelled guns in this organization. 120 artillery tubes, not counting mortars, is a LOT for a division.
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Originally posted by Hrolf Hakonson
4 - You're probably better off moving the artillery battalions currently assigned to the regiments up to division, it increases your artillery flexibility.
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Originally posted by Hrolf Hakonson
5 - No mortars smaller than 120mm? Rather odd for the period (and even now).
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Originally posted by Hrolf Hakonson
6 - Support units at the armoured squadron level are kind of odd, I'd expect those much more at battalion or regiment.
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Originally posted by Hrolf Hakonson
7 - I'd suggest you paint large bullseyes on the company-level ACVs, they're going to be PRIME targets. Most company command units at this period are normal tanks, perhaps with an extra radio.
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Originally posted by Hrolf Hakonson
8 - What are GPVs?
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Originally posted by Hrolf Hakonson
9 - The tank destroyer squadron as part of the armoured battalion: uhm, why? Are your tanks not up to destroying other tanks? Are you short on money? What's the reasoning here?
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Infantry Squad:
- 1 Corporal: SMG
- 8 privates: 1 LMG, 1 SMG, 6 rifles
- Total: 9 men, 2 SMGs, 1 LMG, 6 rifles
Infantry Platoon:
- 4 rifle squads: 9 men each
- 1 command squad: 1 lieutenant (SMG), 1 sergeant (carbine), 2 runners (2 carbines)
- Total: 40 men, 4 LMGs, 9 SMGs
Infantry Company:
- 1 company commander: pistol
- 3 rifle platoons: 40 men
- 1 command squad: 4 messengers (4 carbines), gas protection section (4 men, 4 rifles), antitank squad (10 men, 4 AT rifles/satchel charges, 1 horse). 18 men total.
- Total: 139 men
Infantry Battalion:
- 3 infantry companies: 139 men each
- 1 machinegun platoon: 12xHMGs, 80 men
- 1 Cazadores platoon: 40 men
- 1 mortar platoon: 57 men and 4x81mm mortars
- 1 battalion HQ: 6 men
- 1 battalion commander
- Total: 601 men, 4 mortars, 12 HMGs
Infantry Regiment:
- 1 Regimental Commander
- 1 Regimental HQ: 12 men (Command Office and Supplies Office)
- 1 Supplies Company: 169 men (includes Signal Platoon and Field Kitchen)
- 3 Infantry Battalions: 601 men
- 1 Artillery Battalion: 591 men, 24 guns (mainly 3", usually mountain guns)
- 1 Mortar Company: 83 men, 4x81mm mortars
- 1 Engineering Company: 247 men
- 1 Regimental Column
- Total: 2,906 men + regimental column
Infantry Division (Army of ___):
- 1 Division Commander
- 1 Division HQ: 40 men
- 3 Infantry Regiments: 2,906 men
- 1 Light Detachment: 1 Cazadores company (179 men), 1 cavalry company (179 men), 1 MG platoon (80 men)
- 1 Divisional Heavy Artillery Battalion: 671 men, 24 heavy guns
- 1 AT Gun Battery: 8 AT guns, 114 men
- 1 AAMG Platoon: 80 men, 12 AAMGs
- 1 AA Gun Platoon: 66 men, 3 75mm AA guns
- 1 Supplies Company: 169 men
- 1 Engineering Company: 247 men
- 2 Signal Companies: 247 men each
- 2 Field Hospitals: 150 men each
- Total: 11,338 men
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Originally posted by perdedor99
3) I can see Chile having their own version of the US armor ideas; the tanks are for breakthroughs, the tank destroyers to deal with the enemy tanks if they ever encounter them.
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Armoured Troop:
- 4 tanks: 5 crew each
- Total: 20 men, 4 tanks
Armoured Squadron:
- 3 Tank troops: 4 tanks each, 20 men
- 1 Command Squad: 9 men, 1 commander's tank, 3 motorcycles
- Total: 1 commander's tank, 12 regular tanks, 3 motorcycles, 69 men
Armoured Battalion:
- 3 armoured squadrons: 1 commander's tank, 12 regular tanks, 3 motorcycles, 69 men
- 1 supplies and repair company: 160 men + repair, ammo, and fuel trucks
- 1 battalion HQ: 1 CO, 1 XO, 1 NCO, 20 men
- Total: 391 men, 36 tanks + 3 commander's tanks
Armoured Regiment:
- 1 Regimental HQ: 90 men (Command Office and Supplies Office)
- 3 armoured battalions: 391 men, 36 tanks + 3 commander's tanks
- 1 Supplies Company: 120 men (includes Supplies Platoon, Signal Platoon, Engineer Platoon, and Field Kitchen)
- 1 armoured engineering squadron: 172 men with bridging equipment, armoured recovery vehicles, and minesweeper vehicles
- 1 Regimental Column
- Total: 1,555 men, 9 commander's tanks, 108 tanks + support vehicles
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Panzergrenadiers Squad:
- 1 Corporal: SMG
- 8 privates: 1 LMG, 1 SMG, 6 rifles
- 1 Halftrack Infantry Carrier
- Total: 9 men, 2 SMGs, 1 LMG, 6 rifles
Panzergrenadiers Platoon:
- 4 panzergrenadier squads: 9 men, 1 halftrack
- 1 command squad: 1 lieutenant (SMG), 1 sergeant (carbine), 2 runners (2 carbines), 2 motorcycles
- Total: 40 men, 4 LMGs, 9 SMGs, 4 halftracks, 2 motorcycles
Panzergrenadiers Company:
- 3 panzergrenadiers platoons: 40 men, 4 halftracks
- 1 command squad: 1 company CO, 1 company XO, 1 company first sergeant, 4 messengers (4 carbines, 4 motorcycles), machine-gun squad (10 men, 3 Bolo-30 medium machine guns, 2 halftracks)
- Total: 135 men, 14 halftracks
Panzergrenadiers Battalion:
- 3 panzergrenadiers companies: 135 men, 14 halftracks
- 1 weapons company: 161 men, 16 halftracks, 8 armoured ammo carriers, 2 armoured artillery tractors
- 1 command platoon: 23 men, 3 halftracks
- Total: 589 men, 61 halftracks, 8 armoured ammo carriers, 2 armoured artillery tractors
Weapons Company:
- 1 machinegun platoon: 8xHMGs, 40 men, 6 halftracks
- 1 mortar platoon: 57 men, 4x81mm+2x120mm mortars, 6 halftracks, 4 ammo halftracks
- 1 AT platoon: 33 men, 3x37mm AT guns, 3x20mm AT rifles (Solothurn S-18/1000), 4 halftracks.
- 1 Mountain Gun section: 31 men, 2x76.2mm mountain howitzers, 2 artillery mover halftracks, 4 armoured ammo carriers
- Total: 161 men, 16 halftracks, 8 armoured ammo carriers, 2 armoured artillery tractors
Panzergrenadiers Regiment:
- 1 Regimental HQ: 90 men
- 3 panzergrenadiers battalions: 589 men, 61 halftracks, 8 armoured ammo carriers, 2 armoured artillery tractors
- 1 assault gun squadron: 1 armoured command vehicle, 12 assault guns, 3 motorcycles, 1 GPV, 2 repair trucks, 4 supplies and ammo trucks, 119 men
- 1 Supplies Company: 169 men (includes Supplies Platoon, Signal Platoon, Engineer Platoon, and Field Kitchen)
- 1 AA company: 135 men, 8x20mm AA, 4x40mm AA guns, 12 armoured artillery tractors
- 1 Field Hospital: 135 men, 8 armoured field ambulances
- 1 Regimental Column
- Total: 2,415 men, 12 assault guns, 183 halftracks, 24 armoured ammo carriers, 19 armoured artillery tractors, 8 field ambulances, 12 AA guns
Panzergrenadier Division
- 1 Division HQ: 120 men
- 1 Armoured Regiment: 1,555 men, 9 commander's tanks, 108 tanks + support vehicles
- 2 Panzergrenadiers Regiment: 2,415 men, 183 halftracks
- 1 Artillery Regiment: 2,002 men, 72 guns, regimental column
- 1 Scouting/Armoured Car Battalion: 391 men, 39 armoured cars
- 1 AAMG Platoon: 40 men, 8 AAMGs
- 1 AA Gun Platoon: 66 men, 3x76.2mm AA guns
- 1 Supplies Company: 169 men
- 2 Engineer Companies: 247 men each
- 2 Signal Companies: 247 men each
- 2 Field Hospitals: 150 men each
- Total: 10,461 men, 108+9 tanks, 39 armoured cars, 366 halftracks
This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Hrolf Hakonson" (Jan 13th 2010, 12:59pm)
This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Hrolf Hakonson" (Jan 13th 2010, 1:54pm)
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Originally posted by Vukovlad
Considering the Chilean geography I wonder if the Chilaen army wouldn´s be better served with having divisions as an administrativ unit and have brigades as the main manouveur unit
This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "perdedor99" (Jan 13th 2010, 1:58pm)
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Infantry Squad:
- 1 Corporal: SMG
- 8 privates: 1 LMG, 1 SMG, 6 rifles
- Total: 9 men, 2 SMGs, 1 LMG, 6 rifles
Infantry Platoon:
- 4 rifle squads: 9 men each
- 1 command squad: 1 lieutenant (SMG), 1 sergeant (carbine), 2 runners (2 carbines)
- Total: 40 men, 4 LMGs, 9 SMGs
Infantry Company:
- 1 company commander: pistol
- 3 rifle platoons: 40 men
- 1 command squad: 4 messengers (4 carbines), gas protection section (4 men, 4 rifles), antitank squad (10 men, 4 AT rifles/satchel charges, 1 horse). 18 men total.
- Total: 139 men
Infantry Battalion:
- 3 infantry companies: 139 men each
- 1 machinegun platoon: 8xMGs, 40 men
- 1 Cazadores platoon: 40 men
- 1 mortar platoon: 57 men and 8x60mm mortars
- 1 battalion HQ: 6 men
- 1 battalion commander
- Total: 561 men, 8 mortars, 8 MGs
Infantry Regiment:
- 1 Regimental Commander
- 1 Regimental HQ: 12 men (Command Office and Supplies Office)
- 1 Supplies Company: 169 men (includes Signal Platoon and Field Kitchen)
- 3 Infantry Battalions: 561 men, 8x60mm mortars, 8 MGs
- 1 Mortar Battalion: 425 men, 24x81mm mortars, 12x120mm mortars
- 1 Engineering Company: 247 men
- 1 Regimental Column
- Total: 2,537 men + regimental column (24x60mm mortars, 24x81mm mortars, 12x120mm mortars)
Mortar Battalion:
- 2 81mm Mortar Batteries: 68 men, 12 mortars each
- 1 120mm Mortar Battery: 80 men, 12 mortars
- 1 Supplies Company: 169 men
- 1 Battalion HQ/Communications: 40 men
- Total: 425 men, 24x81mm mortars, 12x120mm mortars
Infantry Division (Army of ___):
- 1 Division Commander
- 1 Division HQ: 40 men
- 3 Infantry Regiments: 2,537 men
- 1 Light Detachment: 1 Cazadores company (179 men), 1 cavalry company (179 men), 1 MG platoon (40 men)
- 1 Artillery Regiment: 2,002 men, 72 guns, regimental column
- 1 AT Gun Battery: 8 AT guns, 114 men
- 1 AAMG Platoon: 80 men, 12 AAMGs
- 1 AA Gun Platoon: 66 men, 3 75mm AA guns
- 1 Supplies Company: 169 men
- 1 Engineering Company: 247 men
- 2 Signal Companies: 247 men each
- 2 Field Hospitals: 150 men each
- Total: 10,851 men, 72 artillery, 8 AT guns, 180 mortars
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Originally posted by Hrolf Hakonson
The mortar battalion at regiment is probably overkill: unless the regiment is in very close order (fairly unusual in mountain combat), the 81mm's won't be able to reach to support lots of the regiment if they're centrally deployed. I'd drop the 81mms here and perhaps replace them with some HMGs and maybe some AT rifles if the company AT rifles were replaced by mortars.
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