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I'd be inclined to order a couple more of your current coastal subs, a couple more minelayers, and perhaps another Riga-class cruiser. After that, more torpedo boats and destroyers.

Did I say Riga......dang, am I out there. I meant the Varonis class. Here's what was layed down in Q/1938,(probebly). The 1.46'' guns are 8 Gatling type gu

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Suburb, Latvia Destroyer laid down 1938

Displacement:

2,163 t light; 2,262 t standard; 2,541 t normal; 2,765 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught

415.00 ft / 415.00 ft x 38.00 ft x 12.00 ft (normal load)

126.49 m / 126.49 m x 11.58 m x 3.66 m

Armament:

6 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (3x2 guns), 67.11lbs / 30.44kg shells, 1938 Model

Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists

on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring

64 - 1.46" / 37.1 mm guns (8x8 guns), 1.56lbs / 0.71kg shells, 1938 Model

Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts

on side, all amidships

Weight of broadside 503 lbs / 228 kg

Shells per gun, main battery: 150

8 - 25.6" / 649.986 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)

Main: 2.00" / 51 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 1.00" / 25 mm

2nd: 0.50" / 13 mm - -

Machinery:

Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,

Geared drive, 2 shafts, 51,000 shp / 38,046 Kw = 35.00 kts

Range 6,500nm at 14.00 kts

Bunker at max displacement = 503 tons

Complement:

178 - 232

Cost:

£1.679 million / $6.717 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:

Armament: 63 tons, 2.5 %

Armour: 32 tons, 1.3 %

- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %

- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %

- Armament: 32 tons, 1.3 %

- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %

- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Machinery: 1,211 tons, 47.6 %

Hull, fittings & equipment: 787 tons, 31.0 %

Fuel, ammunition & stores: 378 tons, 14.9 %

Miscellaneous weights: 70 tons, 2.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:

Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):

778 lbs / 353 Kg = 11.6 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 0.4 torpedoes

Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.33

Metacentric height 2.0 ft / 0.6 m

Roll period: 11.4 seconds

Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %

- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.52

Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.01

Hull form characteristics:

Hull has a flush deck

and transom stern

Block coefficient: 0.470

Length to Beam Ratio: 10.92 : 1

'Natural speed' for length: 23.17 kts

Power going to wave formation at top speed: 66 %

Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50

Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees

Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m

Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):

- Stem: 22.00 ft / 6.71 m

- Forecastle (20 %): 17.00 ft / 5.18 m

- Mid (50 %): 16.00 ft / 4.88 m

- Quarterdeck (15 %): 16.00 ft / 4.88 m

- Stern: 17.00 ft / 5.18 m

- Average freeboard: 16.83 ft / 5.13 m

Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:

Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 175.9 %

- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 88.8 %

Waterplane Area: 10,631 Square feet or 988 Square metres

Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 75 %

Structure weight / hull surface area: 39 lbs/sq ft or 191 Kg/sq metre

Hull strength (Relative):

- Cross-sectional: 0.50

- Longitudinal: 1.59

- Overall: 0.56

Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped

Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped

ns.

Suburb, Latvia Destroyer laid down 1938

Displacement:

2,163 t light; 2,262 t standard; 2,541 t normal; 2,765 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught

415.00 ft / 415.00 ft x 38.00 ft x 12.00 ft (normal load)

126.49 m / 126.49 m x 11.58 m x 3.66 m

Armament:

6 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (3x2 guns), 67.11lbs / 30.44kg shells, 1938 Model

Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists

on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring

64 - 1.46" / 37.1 mm guns (8x8 guns), 1.56lbs / 0.71kg shells, 1938 Model

Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts

on side, all amidships

Weight of broadside 503 lbs / 228 kg

Shells per gun, main battery: 150

8 - 25.6" / 649.986 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)

Main: 2.00" / 51 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 1.00" / 25 mm

2nd: 0.50" / 13 mm - -

Machinery:

Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,

Geared drive, 2 shafts, 51,000 shp / 38,046 Kw = 35.00 kts

Range 6,500nm at 14.00 kts

Bunker at max displacement = 503 tons

Complement:

178 - 232

Cost:

£1.679 million / $6.717 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:

Armament: 63 tons, 2.5 %

Armour: 32 tons, 1.3 %

- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %

- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %

- Armament: 32 tons, 1.3 %

- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %

- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Machinery: 1,211 tons, 47.6 %

Hull, fittings & equipment: 787 tons, 31.0 %

Fuel, ammunition & stores: 378 tons, 14.9 %

Miscellaneous weights: 70 tons, 2.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:

Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):

778 lbs / 353 Kg = 11.6 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 0.4 torpedoes

Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.33

Metacentric height 2.0 ft / 0.6 m

Roll period: 11.4 seconds

Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %

- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.52

Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.01

Hull form characteristics:

Hull has a flush deck

and transom stern

Block coefficient: 0.470

Length to Beam Ratio: 10.92 : 1

'Natural speed' for length: 23.17 kts

Power going to wave formation at top speed: 66 %

Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50

Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees

Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m

Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):

- Stem: 22.00 ft / 6.71 m

- Forecastle (20 %): 17.00 ft / 5.18 m

- Mid (50 %): 16.00 ft / 4.88 m

- Quarterdeck (15 %): 16.00 ft / 4.88 m

- Stern: 17.00 ft / 5.18 m

- Average freeboard: 16.83 ft / 5.13 m

Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:

Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 175.9 %

- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 88.8 %

Waterplane Area: 10,631 Square feet or 988 Square metres

Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 75 %

Structure weight / hull surface area: 39 lbs/sq ft or 191 Kg/sq metre

Hull strength (Relative):

- Cross-sectional: 0.50

- Longitudinal: 1.59

- Overall: 0.56

Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped

Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "TexanCowboy" (Dec 18th 2009, 10:14pm)

(Sails up besides a random ship)

"Dance for us!"

"What, we haven't done anything wro...(sees the guns).Yes Sir!!!"

Not real gatlings, but it was felt that this would allow more firepower to bear on the sky with less crew than other methods.

"Dance for us!"

"What, we haven't done anything wro...(sees the guns).Yes Sir!!!"

Not real gatlings, but it was felt that this would allow more firepower to bear on the sky with less crew than other methods.

This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "TexanCowboy" (Dec 18th 2009, 10:24pm)

That said 64x37mm guns is quite a number but then again I'm used to spliting up my AA between 40mm and 20mm and backing it up with a few 50cal weapons too.

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Originally posted by thesmilingassassin

Perhaps but your creating quite a large mount. Personally I'm not a fan of putting all your eggs in one basket, big or small. I've stuck to twin 40mm for now with my fleet, even though Chile has been cooking up designs with quad mounts in mind. I may yet make the transition!

Yeah, I need to go back and down those to twins again.

A general rule of thumb is that the more guns you add to a mount, the lower your rate of fire from each barrel.

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