This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "gaiasabre11" (Dec 13th 2009, 11:20pm)
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Originally posted by gaiasabre11
I'm still not very familiar with how to design Carriers in Wesworld
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Originally posted by ShinRa_Inc
Check the Rules section; Carriers and subs have more detailed rules @ http://wesworld.jk-clan.de/thread.php?threadid=5466&sid=
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Originally posted by ShinRa_IncAs for the ship itself, I'm not sure one that small would be effective, but there is the Siamese attempt on record (now with China);
http://wesworld.jk-clan.de/thread.php?postid=65933#post65933
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Originally posted by gaiasabre11
Hmmm, it seems that I have a far larger airgroup here with my design, but I did comply with the rules. Am I doing anything wrong?
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Originally posted by Brockpaine
I can't speak for the Siamese carrier, but for the Chilean carriers Chiloe and Mapuche, I've rated them as carrying fewer aircraft than the rules would otherwise permit. For instance, Chiloe is theoretically capable of carrying 46 aircraft, but I've rated her to only carry twenty-four due to her status as a CVE/training carrier and a merchant conversion. Mapuche, being purpose-built but not much larger, gets to carry thirty-six planes even though the rules permit a max of 47. I feel it's more realistic that way.
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Originally posted by ShinRa_Inc
It's worth noting that
a) Our rather simplified square root rule somewhat inflates the capabilities of smaller carriers, and should be taken with a grain of salt.
b) Your miscellaneous weights would likely be allocated to various other equipment; the square root rule basically assumes the weight of the planes and the bare-bones equipment needed to support them. Radar, CIC, more accomdating spaces for the aircrews, etc would need seperate weight accounting.
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Originally posted by ShinRa_IncDoes this ship have a long enough flight deck to fly off a F4F or similar plane? Yeah. Does it have enough natural capacity to carry 24 of them? Yeah. But would it be a stable enough platform to operate them (or larger planes) efficiently? That's the real question.
This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "gaiasabre11" (Dec 14th 2009, 2:21am)
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Originally posted by gaiasabre11
Then how can I determine whether or not it's stable enough?
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Originally posted by ShinRa_Inc
When it comes to carriers, there isn't really a specific value on Springsharp that'll do it; The stability and similar indicators are relative to the ship's size. Ultimately, a ship's size is what gives it the stability and seakeeping to conduct aircraft operatons in heavier weather; No matter how ballasted or relatively seaworthy, a 20k ton carrier is going to be a better platform than a 6k, or 10k design.
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Originally posted by ShinRa_Inc
That's what it amounts to; Where do you see the design serving? Most of the med can be covered by land-based aircraft at this juncture, and most other stations would find the ship hampered if bad weather becomes an issue.
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Originally posted by ShinRa_Inc
With my Mod had on (yet somewhat askew), my suggestion would be to spend some time reading up on the history and deployment of various powers, and put some thought into ships you think would suit one of the powers here in WesWorld. While more random designs can show us you can use springsharp, a more targeted design with rationale behind it gives us a better idea of how well you've got a grasp on how things are running in our own little AU that's running.
This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "gaiasabre11" (Dec 14th 2009, 3:54am)
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Originally posted by ShinRa_Inc
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Originally posted by gaiasabre11
Then how can I determine whether or not it's stable enough?
When it comes to carriers, there isn't really a specific value on Springsharp that'll do it; The stability and similar indicators are relative to the ship's size. Ultimately, a ship's size is what gives it the stability and seakeeping to conduct aircraft operatons in heavier weather; No matter how ballasted or relatively seaworthy, a 20k ton carrier is going to be a better platform than a 6k, or 10k design.
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Originally posted by Red Admiral
I could maybe accept 24 aircraft on this thing if it had no armament or armour and less power. There's a big difference between being able to physically fit aircraft onto a ship and operating them effectively.
Italy has some small carriers this thread of similar size. Can they realistically operate the 28 aircraft made possible by the current rules here? No, maybe 8-10 with limited munitions storage.
This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "gaiasabre11" (Dec 14th 2009, 8:23pm)
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Originally posted by Marek Gutkowski
I'm some what skeptic about aircraft carrier that small but it fit with in the rules so, I can not say now.
Still its power plant will make it an expensive ship.
Why do You want to give a ESCORT carrier such a high speed?
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