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But the US doesn't have Seversky/Republic

The US doesn't have Seversky, that doesn't mean it doesn't have both Republic AND the R-2800.

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But the US doesn't have Seversky/Republic

They may not have Seversky, but that does not mean that Republic Aviation Corporation does not exist. It's just going to be different from the historical Republic Aviation Corporation.

Edit: was a bit slower that Hrolf.

Very different since they probably dont have Alexander Kartveli either

Eh, hard to say. The Bolsheviks ARE a major player in the Russian Republic, after all.

Actually, I think the US DOES have Seversky.

As long as Airacobra gets build by someone I'm Happy.

As for the 47mm.
The only alternative to it giving a plane a pinpoint ground attack capability is Dive Bombing.

WW compared to RL is much more militarized.
In RL only 9 countries build there own tanks at the time (with 3 of them more in the "me too" category) Here everybody and there mother are a massing large AFV forces,
Also a plane with this weapon will be the ultimate Torpedo-boat destroyer, with the pace that WW is turring out newer bigger tanks one can realistically envision that a 75mm cannon on a plane is a good idea.

20t plus tank with a 75mm gun is a common place accurance.
When I read about Hs-129 armed with 50mm gun my first thought was that it will soon became underpowered.

As a side not if the Mexican plane gets past the escort of American Boeing and Liberators then it will seriously put a dent in the "American Iron" legend about the US aviation.

I with Desertfox on this one with a neighbor like that Big guns are the most basic reaction too the problem.

I'd aim lower Rene. Mexico still has a fairly limited design and production capacity. Those are five fairly major designs requiring a lot of work. Mexico in WW maybe has capacity to make two a reality. It's much better to focus resources on what can be realistically achieved. A large turbocharged high altitude fighter like the P-47, it's challenging to see it in production much before 1950 given the other projects. The B-28 is also out of reach for Mexico; turbocharged engines, remotely operated turrets, pressure cabin; it's just not going to happen for Mexico. The risk of failure is very high (basically certain).

The first two aircraft actually make sense. A fighter that's a development of existing designs - well, builds on their technology it seems more like - it's an achievable goal and gives a useful result. Likewise the ground attack aircraft. The role makes sense, it's useful for Mexico, 47mm gun is probably too big for the moment, but for Mexico without APCR ammunition it makes sense in a few years.

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As long as Airacobra gets build by someone I'm Happy

Why? It's probably one of the worst fighters of the war.

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Originally posted by Marek Gutkowski
20t tank with a 75mm gun is a common place accurance.

Name one. The only 75mm+ gunned tanks I'm familiar with are at least 27 tons. Most people are still using the 57mm or less.

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Originally posted by Red Admiral

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As long as Airacobra gets build by someone I'm Happy

Why? It's probably one of the worst fighters of the war.

Every account I've read by an American pilot basically said "The P-39 was a piece of junk, and more dangerous to us than the enemy - I hated it."

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Every account I've read by an American pilot basically said "The P-39 was a piece of junk, and more dangerous to us than the enemy - I hated it."

It's poor performance is often blamed on the removal of the turbocharger from the V-1710. This completely disregards the other aspects of the design - such as the fact that the turbocharger installation didn't really work. Then there's the 30% increase in empty weight between the prototype and the production aircraft. Bell designed a plane with ok performances (not great by a long way) but that plane had no armament, armour, self sealing tanks or equipment, i.e. useless. A turbocharger was added into the design again with the P-39E, it got a bit faster at altitude but otherwise performance plummeted.

Not that many tanks around with 75mm guns still. The armour is more important. Currently 20mm AP should punch through most top armour.

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Originally posted by Brockpaine

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Originally posted by Marek Gutkowski
20t tank with a 75mm gun is a common place accurance.

Name one. The only 75mm+ gunned tanks I'm familiar with are at least 27 tons. Most people are still using the 57mm or less.

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Originally posted by Red Admiral

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As long as Airacobra gets build by someone I'm Happy

Why? It's probably one of the worst fighters of the war.

Every account I've read by an American pilot basically said "The P-39 was a piece of junk, and more dangerous to us than the enemy - I hated it."

Strv 74 and Model: AT-36/75.
Yes they are over 20t but under 30t.
It was my sloppiness that I did not put the word over in my original post.
I apologize for that.

As for the Airacobra... It maybe a regional thing but this plane was considered decent fighter by most sources I read. Russians held them in high regard.And considering the opposition those planes had(Bf-109 and Fw-190) that says a lot. Compeered to the P-40, and Wildcat Airacobra give a good showing for itself.

As for "Every account I've read by an American pilot basically said "The P-39 was a piece of junk, and more dangerous to us than the enemy - I hated it""

Well the Fw-190 considered biggest treat to Allies on the western front according too Russian was not that big of a deal.
Hayabusa an icon for the Japanese, in the west was in the shadow of the Zero.

Strv 74? Quckly counting on my fingers I came up with 13 countries designing their own tanks during WW2

During yes before no.
Before the war i counted 9.

Still 11 before the war (and have probably forgotten some country).

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Actually, I think the US DOES have Seversky.

Checked, Seversky did not emigrate to the US, nor did any of his team. Therefore, Republic Aviation as we know it, does not exist.

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I'd aim lower Rene. Mexico still has a fairly limited design and production capacity. Those are five fairly major designs requiring a lot of work. Mexico in WW maybe has capacity to make two a reality. It's much better to focus resources on what can be realistically achieved. A large turbocharged high altitude fighter like the P-47, it's challenging to see it in production much before 1950 given the other projects. The B-28 is also out of reach for Mexico; turbocharged engines, remotely operated turrets, pressure cabin; it's just not going to happen for Mexico. The risk of failure is very high (basically certain).

True, and Im not buuilding all of the above just now. The first two will probably be flying in time for next year's Talon, the P-39 soon after. The other two are long term projects. The B-28 will first enter service as a medium altitude medium bomber with no presurisation and manually operated turrets. The turbocharged engines will be straight from the US (P&W R-2800). The P-47 I'm still thinking about, but if it goes ahead would again use US engines.

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Why? It's probably one of the worst fighters of the war.

At high altitudes maybe, but it was an excellent low-altitude fighter. The Russians loved theirs and I think the highest scoring Russian Ace flew the P-39. Give it an engine with decent superchargers and it should make a pretty good fighter. Most of the weight of the plane is concentrated on the center giving it very good agility.

Had the Merlin not been used on the P-51 we might be talking the same way about that plane too.

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Originally posted by Desertfox

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Actually, I think the US DOES have Seversky.

Checked, Seversky did not emigrate to the US, nor did any of his team. Therefore, Republic Aviation as we know it, does not exist.

Respectfully wish to point out that AdmK has never commented on whether or not Seversky's in Russia.

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Originally posted by Desertfox
The Russians loved theirs and I think the highest scoring Russian Ace flew the P-39.

Ivan Kozhedub flew an La-7; Alexander Pokryshkin flew a P-39 but did not make all his victories in one; the third-ranking ace, Grigoriy Rechkalov, was the major Russian P39 ace.

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Respectfully wish to point out that AdmK has never commented on whether or not Seversky's in Russia.

I've seen quite a few threads stating that Seversky is still in Russia.

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Originally posted by Desertfox

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Respectfully wish to point out that AdmK has never commented on whether or not Seversky's in Russia.

I've seen quite a few threads stating that Seversky is still in Russia.

None of them by AdmKuznetzov.

I'm not stating decisively that Russia does or does not have Seversky - I'm saying that there's no canon proof either way.

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Originally posted by Brockpaine
Ivan Kozhedub flew an La-7; Alexander Pokryshkin flew a P-39 but did not make all his victories in one; the third-ranking ace, Grigoriy Rechkalov, was the major Russian P39 ace.

Soviet Kingcobras were according to official sources all held in reserve in the east of war with Japan. Some German sources claim kingcobra sittings over Europe.
Russians neither disprove or confirm.
A Russian general(who's name escape me) used this plane as his personal runabout after the war. When he had access too any plane in the USSR inventory and some German ones that speaks volumes about this plane.

I still don't know why Airacobra has such a bad press in the US.
A comparison with made in the states claims that Kingcobra was better in horizontal and equal in vertical flight with Yak 9 and Mustang.
Although that last one was from an online source with is debatable.

The P-39 wasn't an excellent low level fighter. It got killed everywhere it flew. It got killed slightly less in Russia because it outperformed the early war Russian fighters. Its not particularly fast, not very manoeuvreable, climbs like a brick, has really vicious stall problems and serious CoG issues.

The P-51 is rather different. It was very good at low altitude. The Merlin 60 series made the same good performance available at higher altitude as well.

I don't really think it matters whether Seversky or Kartveli emigrates to the US. If you build a plane around a turbocharged R-2800 the peformance and shape is going to be pretty similar to the P-47. So maybe it doesn't have Seversky's trademake elliptical wing shape, straight edges instead. It's not going to be that different.